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NEW: Sheriff Nanos responds to me about the local Phoenix news report that cites an inside source who says investigators believe the Guthrie case was a burglary gone bad and that Nancy Guthrie is still alive.

"Did not come from us. No idea and even though that is one of many possibilities we would never speculate such a thing. We will let the evidence take us to motive."
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Dang....she's aged 20 years in the last 2 weeks.  I can't even imagine the emotional rollercoaster ride that this has been.  God bless her and her family.

They guy/guys that did this are likely in Mexico.  They've had a 2 week head start.
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🚨NEW REPORTABLE INFO FROM INSIDE SOURCE ON GUTHRIE INVESTIGATION:

-Investigators believe this was a burglary gone wrong.

Burglars don't break into houses when they are occupied.
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Burglars don't break into houses when they are occupied.
I watched a group of current police detectives on a live pod cast this evening.  They were saying nothing had been stolen...the first I've heard of this.  They also didn't think it was a robbery, since they'd never seen someone totally covered up like the guy on camera was.  Sheesh....who the heck knows at this point.

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Burglars don't break into houses when they are occupied.

Which would be what went wrong.
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Burglars don't break into houses when they are occupied.

Burglars steal stuff they can sell for money.

This was not a burglary. It was a murder.
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Savannah Guthrie’s videos aren’t helping.

Each time she makes one of her bland, halting pleas, I can tell she knows her mom isn’t being held anywhere.

She knows where her mom is.

She knows she’s not talking to a kidnapper.

She’s not animated enough in her appeals.

They feel like HOMEWORK.

Nobody holds a woman hostage for 3 weeks.

Especially when that woman’s return is potentially worth MILLIONS to them.

And now they’re saying authorities are looking AWAY FROM the family?

Guys this smells more and more like last week’s fish.

STOP treating this like an abduction.

START treating it like a MURDER.

And focus on the most likely suspects:

Those CLOSEST to her.

Prosecution rests.
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Burglars don't break into houses when they are occupied.
Most burglars, unless they were complete drug-crazed dimwits, would have been watching the house to see Nancy leave to go to dinner at her daughter's. They would have broken in during that absence of several hours, not waiting until after her return.

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After fleeting interest at first, add me to the don't care any more category.  Just wish Fox News would stop the coverage, and especially pre-empting Gutfeld.
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Savannah Guthrie’s videos aren’t helping.

Each time she makes one of her bland, halting pleas, I can tell she knows her mom isn’t being held anywhere.

She knows where her mom is.

She knows she’s not talking to a kidnapper.

She’s not animated enough in her appeals.

They feel like HOMEWORK.

Nobody holds a woman hostage for 3 weeks.

Especially when that woman’s return is potentially worth MILLIONS to them.

And now they’re saying authorities are looking AWAY FROM the family?

Guys this smells more and more like last week’s fish.

STOP treating this like an abduction.

START treating it like a MURDER.

And focus on the most likely suspects:

Those CLOSEST to her.

Prosecution rests.
4:11 AM · Feb 16, 2026

You think this woman is capable of kidnapping someone? Like even physically?

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Burglars steal stuff they can sell for money.

This was not a burglary. It was a murder.

There was something in that house that they were after. The fam is lying or we're being lied to.
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I agree...they may never find her...probably buried in the desert...
Sadly, that is likely the case. I hope I'm wrong, and that she is recovered alive, but short of someone having her stashed in a bunker somewhere, that seems unlikely.
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There was something in that house that they were after. The fam is lying or we're being lied to.

I believe both and add to it that I don't think that the Pima Sheriff's department can be trusted.

After this amount of time that has gone by, people questioned, vehicle seized and yet nothing. She struggled and was overpowered as most 82 year old women would be.

Sad. 

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Why would she be taken to Mexico? That doesn't make much sense?  If she's still alive she's 82 years old -- other than ransom $$, not much she can bring to the table.  :shrug: 
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Fox coverage is slowly dissipating...for the most part they are doing about 2 or 3 minute updates and then move on to other news like AOC in Munich..lol
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Most burglars, unless they were complete drug-crazed dimwits, would have been watching the house to see Nancy leave to go to dinner at her daughter's. They would have broken in during that absence of several hours, not waiting until after her return.

Exactly.
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Most burglars, unless they were complete drug-crazed dimwits, would have been watching the house to see Nancy leave to go to dinner at her daughter's. They would have broken in during that absence of several hours, not waiting until after her return.

I would argue most burglars aren't very smart. So doing stupid things fits right in with what they do.
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If she was indeed taken by cartel kidnappers to Mexico...
And if she's still alive...
... it's gonna take the U.S. Army to find her and get her out.

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I don't know what happened to this lady. Maybe someone was there and accidently killed her. Then had to dispose of the remains. :shrug:

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I don't know what happened to this lady. Maybe someone was there and accidently killed her. Then had to dispose of the remains. :shrug:
I don't know, either. I hope against probability that she is found, alive and healthy, and not exceedingly traumatized by her experiences.

Sadly, I think that outcome grows less likely by the day, and it didn't start off with a high probability.
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NEW: I just asked Sheriff Nanos if DNA helped clear the Guthrie family from being suspects.    He says:

"Not going there…they are victims and I will not stand quiet when they are re-victimized.

It is not just my duty, it is every cops duty to stand up and be the voice for victims."
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'Not going there…', So it is their DNA?

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I guess my question is:

Why would anyone kidnap an 84-year-old special-needs patient…

…and then keep her as a pet?

Because 16 days later: NO CREDIBLE RANSOM NOTE FOR NANCY GUTHRIE!

And that's 16 days of a woman who:

Has a pacemaker.

Can't walk 50 yards on her own.

Needs daily medication for high blood pressure and heart issues to survive.

And yet, still no communication from the alleged KIDNAPPER.

Just a missing little old lady who needs round-the-clock care…

...and some INSANE PERSON deciding “yeah, I’ll hang onto this human responsibility for weeks.”

Do the math:

If the "kidnapper" didn't also take nancy's life support system, then she's no longer with us, right?

Guys, either the kidnapper is the dumbest criminal in history…

...or there is no kidnapper.

Pick one.

Because the math doesn’t add up.
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I guess my question is:

Why would anyone kidnap an 84-year-old special-needs patient…

…and then keep her as a pet?

Because 16 days later: NO CREDIBLE RANSOM NOTE FOR NANCY GUTHRIE!

And that's 16 days of a woman who:

Has a pacemaker.

Can't walk 50 yards on her own.

Needs daily medication for high blood pressure and heart issues to survive.

And yet, still no communication from the alleged KIDNAPPER.

Just a missing little old lady who needs round-the-clock care…

...and some INSANE PERSON deciding “yeah, I’ll hang onto this human responsibility for weeks.”

Do the math:

If the "kidnapper" didn't also take nancy's life support system, then she's no longer with us, right?

Guys, either the kidnapper is the dumbest criminal in history…

...or there is no kidnapper.

Pick one.

Because the math doesn’t add up.
6:38 AM · Feb 17, 2026
I suppose it could have started as a kidnapping and something happened as they were rounding her up...dropped her...subdued her harshly...she stroked out...some type of trauma.  She then passed away and they had no person to ransom.  This might fit into the cartel theory.  If it were the cartel, they'll never find out who did this or Nancy.  The cartel probably eliminated the kidnappers as well.





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Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker remains best hope of finding missing 84-year-old, expert says

While detecting the signal of Nancy Guthrie’s pacemaker may be like searching for a needle in a haystack, an expert says it remains the best hope of finding the missing 84-year-old, Griff Jenkins, co-host of "FOX & Friends Weekend," reported from Tucson, Arizona, on Tuesday morning.

Jenkins reported that Dave Kennedy, who created the new Bluetooth “signal sniffing” technology, told him that the type of pacemaker Nancy Guthrie has is “the best we could hope for.”

“It essentially every one to three minutes sends a simple ping up that says, ‘Hey, iPhone. Are you there?’ Well, in this case, if the ‘signal sniffer’ in the sky can pick it up, it can locate it, do a triangulation of directional antennas and within an hour they could possibly find her,” Jenkins reported.

Jenkins also flew in a helicopter over the search area’s challenging terrain of rough hills and steep culverts, providing a birds-eye view similar to what law enforcement has seen while using the new high-tech Bluetooth scanner in the search for Nancy Guthrie.

“It’s much like hunting for a needle in a haystack,” Jenkins said.
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Did they ever do an on-the-ground grid search of the area surrounding the house?

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Did they ever do an on-the-ground grid search of the area surrounding the house?

I don't know...I've seen agents walking all over her yard but don't know if they are looking for her..she could be laying under a cactus for all we know... :smokin:
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Breaking:  Sheriff Nanos tells Fox News that the one glove which was recovered about two miles from Nancy Guthrie's home did NOT match DNA in Nancy's home and also did not have a hit in CODIS.
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I don't know...I've seen agents walking all over her yard but don't know if they are looking for her..she could be laying under a cactus for all we know... :smokin:
I thought that was s.o.p in missing persons cases: get a bunch of people together and carefully walk in a line over a section of land, then move on to the next grid.

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I guess my question is:

Why would anyone kidnap an 84-year-old special-needs patient…

…and then keep her as a pet?

Because 16 days later: NO CREDIBLE RANSOM NOTE FOR NANCY GUTHRIE!

And that's 16 days of a woman who:

Has a pacemaker.

Can't walk 50 yards on her own.

Needs daily medication for high blood pressure and heart issues to survive.

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6:38 AM · Feb 17, 2026

Have the police checked to see if first time prescriptions of Nancy's same meds have been filled in a 20 mile radius of her house?

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Forget the glove...go after the DNA evidence in the house....
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I thought that was s.o.p in missing persons cases: get a bunch of people together and carefully walk in a line over a section of land, then move on to the next grid.

It's typically the first thing that's organized and completed ----- it's a little unusual to wait weeks to do this.

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I thought that was s.o.p in missing persons cases: get a bunch of people together and carefully walk in a line over a section of land, then move on to the next grid.
What about this case has been S.O.P.?
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For all we know, she's being held by some geriatric with a suitcase full of Viagra ...

Sloppy cop work from day one.
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Sloppy cop work from day one.

Or, intentional cop work?

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Or, intentional cop work?
Intentional or inadvertent, it's sloppy.
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Or, intentional cop work?

I've been thinking for awhile, it's intentional.
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I've been thinking for awhile, it's intentional.

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Okay what is this about...got what?  pointing-up
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