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Two Tons Versus Two Hundred Pounds
« on: January 12, 2026, 01:37:06 pm »
Two Tons Versus Two Hundred Pounds

Renee and Rebecca Good did everything they could to incite a confrontation, to the point that the officer would have been unreasonable not to respond as he did.

Ted Noel | January 12, 2026

Politically, we have a firestorm brewing. In Minneapolis, an ICE agent shot and killed a protester. In Portland, ICE shot two more, this time in a felony traffic stop. As I write this, Law Dork reports protests in DC demanding “STOP ICE TERROR NOW.”

On the opposite side, we have DHS Secretary Noem calling the actions of the protesters in Minneapolis “domestic terrorism,” and VP Vance clearly outlining the facts indicating that the shooting was, in police parlance, “a good shoot” in self-defense. The cherry on top of this fecal sundae is Minnesota Governor Walz’s assignment of the Minnesota National Guard to “assist Minneapolis police.” One must wonder just what sort of “help” they’ll be ordered to provide after Minneapolis Mayor Frey shouted that ICE must “get the f*** out of Minneapolis!”

The single legal question that must be asked is simple. “Does this shoot qualify as self-defense?” Full Stop. If it’s self-defense, then no further legal action can proceed against Officer Ross. Further, if it’s self-defense, qualified immunity will bar civil actions against him as well. There is no better authority on the Law of Self-Defense in the US than Andrew Branca. He outlines the five elements necessary for a civilian to sustain a claim of self-defense.

1.    Innocence. The person using deadly defensive force must not be in the wrong as the instigator.

2.    Imminence. The threat of great bodily injury or death must be “right now” or so close as to make no difference.

3.    Proportionality. The use of deadly defensive force must be in response to a similar threat, not to a trivial insult.

4.    Avoidance. Where practical, if the defender can get out of the way of the major threat, deadly force is generally not permissible.

5.    Reasonableness. What would a rational, reasonable person do in the same situation?

Note that these all apply to civilians. The police have special dispensations due to their status and duties.

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Re: Two Tons Versus Two Hundred Pounds
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2026, 12:07:40 am »
Something no one mentions in this which would have been chillingly evident to the officer who took the shot. In one video angle, the front tire of the SUV can be seen spinning before getting traction (yes, she hit the gas that hard).

No doubt, despite the heckling from the driver's 'wife', he heard that engine spool up, and the tire spin. He knew the vehicle was coming for him, in something the mute videos do not convey. He heard the engine rev.
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Re: Two Tons Versus Two Hundred Pounds
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2026, 07:39:04 am »
Why didn't the officer leap onto the hood and run back across the roof?

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Re: Two Tons Versus Two Hundred Pounds
« Reply #3 on: January 13, 2026, 08:04:45 am »
Why didn't the officer leap onto the hood and run back across the roof?
For the same reason he didn't shoot the gas pedal out from under her foot!
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