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Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away

Story by Guessing Headlights

Once hailed as a clever way to reduce fuel use and emissions, start/stop engine technology may become less common as regulators move to remove the incentives that encouraged it. And for many drivers, it’s not a moment too soon.

From dead batteries and clunky restarts to lost confidence in tight traffic, this once-promoted feature has become one of the most complained-about additions to modern cars. Here’s why the EPA is moving to end the incentives/credits that helped encourage it.

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Source:  https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/ownership/why-drivers-never-liked-start-stop-and-why-it-s-finally-going-away/ss-AA1HxmgZ
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2026, 10:31:39 am »
We appreciate that there's an override button for start/stop in the Honda we recently purchased. Mr. M had the local dealership disable another so-called safety feature, where the steering wheel would vibrate whenever the car crossed a lane marker without the turn signal being on. Our roads are full of potholes; we have to swerve occasionally, and don't want the steering wheel vibrating like mad every time we do.

There are way too many unneeded, unwanted super-dooper technological features in new vehicles.
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2026, 10:39:50 am »
We appreciate that there's an override button for start/stop in the Honda we recently purchased. Mr. M had the local dealership disable another so-called safety feature, where the steering wheel would vibrate whenever the car crossed a lane marker without the turn signal being on. Our roads are full of potholes; we have to swerve occasionally, and don't want the steering wheel vibrating like made every time we do.

There are way too many unneeded, unwanted super-dooper technological features in new vehicles.

Lane Keep Assist (at least that's what it's called in Subaru) can at least be turned off, and it will stay off through multiple starts.  Auto Start/Stop has to be turned off every time the car is started.  It's extremely annoying. 
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2026, 11:16:18 am »
Not since all 1973 MY cars were fitted with seatbelt interlock systems has a feature be so despised.
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2026, 11:53:03 am »
Lane Keep Assist (at least that's what it's called in Subaru) can at least be turned off, and it will stay off through multiple starts.  Auto Start/Stop has to be turned off every time the car is started.  It's extremely annoying.
We couldn't turn off the "lane keep assist," which is why we had it disabled. The start/stop in the Honda also has to be turned off every time. Another thing I don't like about the car is that the headlights automatically dim or go bright, depending on how it "senses" the environment. This is particularly annoying when driving by houses with a lot of Christmas lights - the car dims the headlights as if there were oncoming traffic.

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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2026, 12:03:18 pm »
We couldn't turn off the "lane keep assist," which is why we had it disabled. The start/stop in the Honda also has to be turned off every time. Another thing I don't like about the car is that the headlights automatically dim or go bright, depending on how it "senses" the environment. This is particularly annoying when driving by houses with a lot of Christmas lights - the car dims the headlights as if there were oncoming traffic.

The auto-dim should also be something that can be turned off.
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2026, 01:37:16 pm »
Saves a few pennies in gas but wears out your starter much faster don't it?

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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2026, 02:23:31 pm »
Saves a few pennies in gas but wears out your starter much faster don't it?

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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2026, 03:17:50 pm »
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2026, 06:07:40 pm »
But...but...(sputter!!!) it's saving the planet!!!  :whistle:
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2026, 06:50:33 pm »
Not since all 1973 MY cars were fitted with seatbelt interlock systems has a feature be so despised.

Come on,  No one remembers this?
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #11 on: January 04, 2026, 06:09:11 pm »
Saves a few pennies in gas but wears out your starter much faster don't it?

It does put more wear and tear on the starter, but I believe that the starters in cars with this feature are more robust, and thus can stand up to the extra wear and tear.
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2026, 06:44:43 pm »
We couldn't turn off the "lane keep assist," which is why we had it disabled. The start/stop in the Honda also has to be turned off every time. Another thing I don't like about the car is that the headlights automatically dim or go bright, depending on how it "senses" the environment. This is particularly annoying when driving by houses with a lot of Christmas lights - the car dims the headlights as if there were oncoming traffic.

I'd be very surprised if the car doesn't allow the lane assist from being turned off. All the cars I've seen allow you to turn it off. The head lights should have an auto mode or manual mode selection as well.
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Re: Why drivers never liked start/stop—and why it’s finally going away
« Reply #13 on: January 04, 2026, 06:50:24 pm »
I'd be very surprised if the car doesn't allow the lane assist from being turned off. All the cars I've seen allow you to turn it off. The head lights should have an auto mode or manual mode selection as well.

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