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No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« on: December 29, 2025, 06:22:21 am »
No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
by Khaled Abu Toameh
December 29, 2025 at 5:00 am
 
Since the announcement of Trump's plan, Hamas... has dismissed the idea of laying down its weapons. It has also made it clear that the role of any international force should be limited just to monitoring the implementation of the ceasefire with Israel. According to Hamas, the proposed International Stabilization Force should be stationed at the borders of the Gaza Strip, and not in areas controlled by the terror group.

"The Palestinian people have the right to all resistance [meaning: terrorism against Israel]." — Hamas statement, palinfo.com, December 12, 2025.

These statements by Hamas and the other Palestinian terror groups show that they have no intention of honoring Trump's plan. They view the Trump plan as nothing more than a temporary ceasefire that allows them to regroup, rearm, and pursue their Jihad to annihilate Israel.

It is simply nonsensical to believe that any peace plan would end the terrorists' Jihad against Israel. Unfortunately, there is no alternative to a total defeat and eradication of Hamas and its allies.

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/22151/gaza-terrorists-jihad
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #1 on: December 29, 2025, 04:23:05 pm »
muslims do NOT "make peace".

They will call for a "hudna" from time to time to rebuild strength.

They will "agree" to treaties, etc. -- all the while practicing taquiyya.

For muslims, the ONLY "peace" can be that of dar al islam.

C'mon, what does "dar al harb" mean?
Does anyone here know, and care to reply...?

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« Reply #2 on: December 29, 2025, 06:20:53 pm »
muslims do NOT "make peace".

They will call for a "hudna" from time to time to rebuild strength.

They will "agree" to treaties, etc. -- all the while practicing taquiyya.

For muslims, the ONLY "peace" can be that of dar al islam.

C'mon, what does "dar al harb" mean?
Does anyone here know, and care to reply...?

Muslims are not the monolithic group you make them out to be.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2025, 07:27:31 am »
Muslims are not the monolithic group you make them out to be.

Right, they love killing each other almost as much as the love killing Jews, Christians and Hindus. Or anybody else who is not them ie being from the same sect, mosque etc.
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2025, 08:01:49 am »
Right, they love killing each other almost as much as the love killing Jews, Christians and Hindus. Or anybody else who is not them ie being from the same sect, mosque etc.

That is not uniformly true, either. 

Wasn’t it somebody who once said “know thy enemy”? 
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2025, 08:33:29 am »
Muslims are not the monolithic group you make them out to be.

98% of the Palestinians make the other 2% look bad....
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2025, 09:43:59 am »
98% of the Palestinians make the other 2% look bad....
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2025, 09:50:02 am »
98% of the Palestinians make the other 2% look bad....

Again, it’s more complicated than simple monolithic statements.

Is everyone of Nordic descent a racist fascist, simply because the National Socialist German Workers Party seized power in Germany in the 1930s?  Because many ordinary Germans failed to stop them because those ordinary Germans were too afraid for their own personal security to act?

If culture is genetic, and predetermines one’s fate, then the left may very well be correct that all Whites are fascists.

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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2025, 09:53:22 am »
Again, it’s more complicated than simple monolithic statements.

Is everyone of Nordic descent a racist fascist, simply because the National Socialist German Workers Party seized power in Germany in the 1930s?  Because many ordinary Germans failed to stop them because those ordinary Germans were too afraid for their own personal security to act?

If culture is genetic, and predetermines one’s fate, then the left may very well be correct that all Whites are fascists.

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That shoe has always been there.  I'm used to it.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2025, 10:05:35 am »
That shoe has always been there.  I'm used to it.

So you agree that you’re a fascist solely because your skin is white?  Is that an admission?
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2025, 10:24:11 am »
So you agree that you’re a fascist solely because your skin is white?  Is that an admission?

I'm used to being called one.
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2025, 10:25:22 am »
I'm used to being called one.

That’s not the question, and it wasn’t the point of the original statement.

Are you, solely by virtue of being White, a fascist?  Yes or no?
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2025, 10:29:56 am »
That’s not the question, and it wasn’t the point of the original statement.

Are you, solely by virtue of being White, a fascist?  Yes or no?

I don't think I am.  But that doesn't seem to matter, I get called that.  I don't care anymore. 
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2025, 10:45:52 am »
I don't think I am.  But that doesn't seem to matter, I get called that.  I don't care anymore. 

Well, if you don’t believe that you’re a fascist solely because you’re White, and that fascism has more to do with culture and society, not genetics, then doesn’t it make sense to extend the same view to others?  And just as the culture that developed out of the Nordic groups has given rise periodically to fascists and other extremists, is it not possible that Muslim culture does so similarly?  Certainly I am not arguing for a facile or foolish consistency or equivalence, but Islam is not a monolithic, genetically determined culture, and there are strands within the larger culture that are modernist in outlook.  The issue is how to defang the larger extremist aspects of the current culture and cultivate the modernist aspects.

Fundamentally, Islam has to come to terms with the heterogeneity of human culture the same way that Christianity did.  Several hundred years ago, people were routinely killed in Europe based on which flavor of Christianity their sovereign adopted and which one they personally practiced.  So it is possible.  It will be harder in certain respects than it was with Christianity, but God never gives us a task that He believes is too great for us, whatever we may subjectively believe.  It’s also more imperative to do the chore, because in today’s world the extremists can do a lot more damage to a lot more people than could be done several hundred years ago. 
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2025, 11:12:31 am »
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2025, 11:16:03 am »
98% of the Palestinians make the other 2% look bad....

Palestinians are upset that Israel’s God is superior to their god in every way.
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2025, 11:31:40 am »
If you kill enough of them the terror will stop. 
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« Reply #17 on: December 30, 2025, 11:34:09 am »
Well, if you don’t believe that you’re a fascist solely because you’re White, and that fascism has more to do with culture and society, not genetics, then doesn’t it make sense to extend the same view to others?  And just as the culture that developed out of the Nordic groups has given rise periodically to fascists and other extremists, is it not possible that Muslim culture does so similarly?  Certainly I am not arguing for a facile or foolish consistency or equivalence, but Islam is not a monolithic, genetically determined culture, and there are strands within the larger culture that are modernist in outlook.  The issue is how to defang the larger extremist aspects of the current culture and cultivate the modernist aspects.

Fundamentally, Islam has to come to terms with the heterogeneity of human culture the same way that Christianity did.  Several hundred years ago, people were routinely killed in Europe based on which flavor of Christianity their sovereign adopted and which one they personally practiced.  So it is possible.  It will be harder in certain respects than it was with Christianity, but God never gives us a task that He believes is too great for us, whatever we may subjectively believe.  It’s also more imperative to do the chore, because in today’s world the extremists can do a lot more damage to a lot more people than could be done several hundred years ago.

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Fundamentally, Islam has to come to terms with the heterogeneity of human culture the same way that Christianity did.

No it hasn't. There has never been a Reformation/Enlightenment in Islam.

Islam's inherent fusion of theology and politics makes it a "total system," where submission to divine law often overrides cultural diversity or individual freedoms.

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« Reply #18 on: December 30, 2025, 11:42:48 am »
No it hasn't. There has never been a Reformation/Enlightenment in Islam.

Islam's inherent fusion of theology and politics makes it a "total system," where submission to divine law often overrides cultural diversity or individual freedoms.



Christianity used to have that same fusion, and in point of fact, the orthodox churches are still subservient to laic political control. 

And yes, Islam hasn’t reached the same points that Christianity has for the simple reason that it is several hundred years behind developmentally.  The question is how to push it in that direction. 

And as far as being intellectual barbarians is concerned, but for Islamic intellectuals in the European dark ages, we would not have access to many of the Ancient Greek sources that we have.


Life is complicated, much more so than stupid slogans make it out to be.

Islam is not going to just disappear if you stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and scream “la la la” - it has to be constructively dealt with, engaged where necessary, fought where necessary, and quite honestly, the biggest danger is western progressive culture and the mindless tolerance and self-guilt it has engendered.
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« Reply #19 on: December 30, 2025, 12:18:14 pm »
So you agree that you’re a fascist solely because your skin is white?  Is that an admission?
What is wrong with you? that is a serious question.
Given proof that Blacks are responsible for more violent crimes, you continue to deny it. You see the state of the world where Muslim populations have become as significant percent of the population and you deny the danger of this cult of death.
Tell me when was the last time you saw Christians of any denomination or Jews flying planes into buildings, blowing up mosques, strapping on bomb vests to blow up another religion.
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« Reply #20 on: December 30, 2025, 12:19:02 pm »
Islam is not consistent with our political system.
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« Reply #21 on: December 30, 2025, 12:39:52 pm »
Christianity used to have that same fusion, and in point of fact, the orthodox churches are still subservient to laic political control. 

And yes, Islam hasn’t reached the same points that Christianity has for the simple reason that it is several hundred years behind developmentally.  The question is how to push it in that direction. 

And as far as being intellectual barbarians is concerned, but for Islamic intellectuals in the European dark ages, we would not have access to many of the Ancient Greek sources that we have.


Life is complicated, much more so than stupid slogans make it out to be.

Islam is not going to just disappear if you stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and scream “la la la” - it has to be constructively dealt with, engaged where necessary, fought where necessary, and quite honestly, the biggest danger is western progressive culture and the mindless tolerance and self-guilt it has engendered.
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And yes, Islam hasn’t reached the same points that Christianity has for the simple reason that it is several hundred years behind developmentally.  The question is how to push it in that direction. 

You can lead Islam to water. But Islam has no thirst.

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This is a good point. And it exemplifies why Islam should not be allowed in our country.
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« Reply #22 on: December 30, 2025, 12:47:35 pm »
Christianity used to have that same fusion, and in point of fact, the orthodox churches are still subservient to laic political control. 

And yes, Islam hasn’t reached the same points that Christianity has for the simple reason that it is several hundred years behind developmentally.  The question is how to push it in that direction. 

And as far as being intellectual barbarians is concerned, but for Islamic intellectuals in the European dark ages, we would not have access to many of the Ancient Greek sources that we have.

No one is disputing the contributions that the islamic empire made during their highest periods.  I read the same history books that you read.  And the same can be said for Christianity.  But keep in mind that the written foundation of Christianity originated in Greek texts that predated islam.  So no, islam did not intellectually save the world.

As for developmental growth, islam has shown zero over the last 1300 years, while Christianity has experienced revelation after revelation after revelation over the last two millienia.  So no, this isn't a matter of Christianity having a 700-year head start.  Islam is a copy of Judaism and Christianity.  The Q'oran relies heavily on the Bible of Jesus to support it historically.  Sure, it mentions Jesus.  But nothing about His ministry, His time spent in Galilee, Samaria, Judea, Jerusalem, etc.  In fact, the only point it makes is that He wasn't crucified and that He couldn't be the Son of God because God would never allow such a horrible death to happen to His Son.  And of course, with no death, there was no resurrection and no reconciliation with God.  So the Q'oran has nothing to say about Jesus' life but makes it a point to refute the foundation of Christianity itself.  Coincidence?

So, let's go back to the beginning.  Some power-crazed pedophile happens to have conversations in the desert with one of the three Archangels of Judaism.  And this Archangel convinces him that one of the gods of the polytheistic religion observed in Midia (allah) was above the others.  And as the writings progressed, the level of rationality to the words decreased.

Now, I am convinced that the Archangel he was talking to wasn't Gabriel, and it wasn't Michael.  But there is nothing righteous or good about a god who offers no guarantee to salvation, and who is only impressed by the murder of innocents - muslims included.
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« Reply #23 on: December 30, 2025, 12:49:55 pm »
98% of the Palestinians make the other 2% look bad....

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« Reply #24 on: December 30, 2025, 12:57:59 pm »
 The vast majority of surviving Greek texts today  come from Byzantine copies, not Arabic ones.

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« Reply #25 on: December 30, 2025, 01:39:19 pm »
Fundamentally, Islam has to come to terms with the heterogeneity of human culture the same way that Christianity did.
Islam's dictate is that all are heathens outside of Islam must be converted or killed.  It is in the Koran.

To equate this to what the Bible's New Testament contains to establish God's kingdom on this earth is way beyond any rationale thought process.

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« Reply #26 on: December 30, 2025, 01:39:38 pm »
That is not uniformly true, either. 

Wasn’t it somebody who once said “know thy enemy”?

You need to read more ME history and all five of the Islamic "holy" books.
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« Reply #27 on: December 30, 2025, 01:56:44 pm »
Islam is not a religion. It is a political system cloaked as religion and that has been true from day one.
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« Reply #28 on: December 30, 2025, 02:00:44 pm »
muslims do NOT "make peace".

They will call for a "hudna" from time to time to rebuild strength.

They will "agree" to treaties, etc. -- all the while practicing taquiyya.

For muslims, the ONLY "peace" can be that of dar al islam.

C'mon, what does "dar al harb" mean?
Does anyone here know, and care to reply...?


It means "House of war" the parts of the world that cannot reconcile with Islam.
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« Reply #29 on: December 30, 2025, 02:16:11 pm »
It means "House of war" the parts of the world that cannot reconcile with Islam.

Which ought to tell some people what Islam's long term goal for us is....
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« Reply #30 on: December 30, 2025, 02:19:49 pm »
Well, like they say, you can lead a horse to water, ….

There are always at least two sides to every interpersonal problem.   What’s your role?
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« Reply #31 on: December 30, 2025, 02:59:42 pm »
Well, like they say, you can lead a horse to water, ….

There are always at least two sides to every interpersonal problem.   What’s your role?

If you wear a white glove and dip your hand into a puddle of mud, the glove gets muddy.

The mud doesn’t get glovey.

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« Reply #32 on: December 30, 2025, 03:02:19 pm »
Sure, it will be different this time.   :whistle:

Who keeps giving these formerly nomadic goat herders money to blow up the West?  Tunnels don't grow on trees, and missiles aren't free.  Go after those bankrolling terrorists in Gaza, and elsewhere.
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« Reply #33 on: December 30, 2025, 03:18:43 pm »
If you wear a white glove and dip your hand into a puddle of mud, the glove gets muddy.

The mud doesn’t get glovey.

Do you understand?

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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #34 on: December 30, 2025, 03:20:53 pm »
Which ought to tell some people what Islam's long term goal for us is....

People need to really wake up in this country before it's too late. There will be no turning back.
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #35 on: December 30, 2025, 03:40:47 pm »
There obvious current goal worldwide is the same one muslims had in the 7th to 15th Century - the utter destruction of Western Civilization and the destruction of Christianity. They did it once, and the way everyone shrinks from speaking the truth of Islam, we are in the road to a repeat along with the attendant Dark Ages.

And no, muslims did not invent or build anything, they just preserved bits and pieces of Western, Persian, and Hindu cultures/knowledge that suited some individual's fancy, while slaves [ mostly Jews ] build and decorated various buildings.

The only known invention by a muslim is the cell phone bomb invented by some anonymous Palestinian. Everything else attributed to them they stole from others.

Even the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa Mosque are frauds. Before the temple was built, Jerusalem was a backwater town populated by goat herders. Far away in Amman, Jordan, the capital of the current Caliph, the Court was restless, so fearing some trouble from them the Caliph moved the court to Jerusalem, where he used his Jewish slaves to build them. Included with the building, he let the Court know that this was the spot were Mighty Mo ascended to Paradise. Every one knew that was a lie, as there was no way Mo could have gone so far with the assassins after him. [ He likely was killed in some far mosque in Medina. ]

The Court was pleased with this take, as they could then tell the unwashed to come to Jerusalem as pilgrims for a "small" fee. Years past and the Court once again grew restless, so the Caliph, without ado, moved the Capital back to Amman. A certain muslim family to this day still collects fees from the fraud.

 
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #36 on: December 30, 2025, 04:26:11 pm »
Kamaji:
"Wasn’t it somebody who once said “know thy enemy”?"'

When I see a muslim...
... I see "my enemy".

Not only my enemy, but one who poses a danger to all of Western Civilization.

That's why ALL muslims (even those who are U.S. citizens) in dar al harb must be returned to dar al islam.

Sorry if you don't care for this reply...

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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #37 on: December 30, 2025, 04:29:12 pm »
Kamaji:
"Islam is not going to just disappear if you stick your fingers in your ears, close your eyes and scream “la la la” - it has to be constructively dealt with, engaged where necessary, fought where necessary, and quite honestly, the biggest danger is western progressive culture and the mindless tolerance and self-guilt it has engendered."

Best reply I've seen to what you wrote above:
"islam delenda est"

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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #38 on: December 30, 2025, 04:34:17 pm »
verga wrote (regarding another poster):
"What is wrong with you? that is a serious question."

Methinks that he may have some kind of vested interest in protecting islam.
Business... or personal.
Can't speculate beyond that.

One thing about islam being "reformed":
IT CANNOT BE.

Reason why:
The quran as written exists as the unchageable word of allah as spoken through the voice of his prophet muhammed. Any attempt to change this is blasphemy and anyone who tries to do so is an apostate and must be killed.

That's why there can never be an islamic "reformation".

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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #39 on: December 31, 2025, 11:41:59 am »
verga wrote (regarding another poster):
"What is wrong with you? that is a serious question."

Methinks that he may have some kind of vested interest in protecting islam.
Business... or personal.
Can't speculate beyond that.

One thing about islam being "reformed":
IT CANNOT BE.

Reason why:
The quran as written exists as the unchageable word of allah as spoken through the voice of his prophet muhammed. Any attempt to change this is blasphemy and anyone who tries to do so is an apostate and must be killed.

That's why there can never be an islamic "reformation".

Sorry if you don't care for this reply.

Excellent rebuttal
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #40 on: December 31, 2025, 11:55:49 am »
verga wrote (regarding another poster):
"What is wrong with you? that is a serious question."

Methinks that he may have some kind of vested interest in protecting islam.
Business... or personal.
Can't speculate beyond that.

One thing about islam being "reformed":
IT CANNOT BE.

Reason why:
The quran as written exists as the unchageable word of allah as spoken through the voice of his prophet muhammed. Any attempt to change this is blasphemy and anyone who tries to do so is an apostate and must be killed.

That's why there can never be an islamic "reformation".

Sorry if you don't care for this reply.
I'll just note this

Mamdani Will Be First N.Y.C. Mayor  to Use the Quran at His Swearing-In
Zohran Mamdani, New York City’s first Muslim mayor, will use two family Qurans and one that belonged to the writer Arturo Schomburg at his two swearing-in ceremonies.

When Zohran Mamdani is sworn in as mayor of New York City on Jan. 1, he will represent a range of demographics the city has not seen before in top leadership: South Asian, millennial, Muslim.
But for New York’s hundreds of thousands of Muslim residents who have taken pride in seeing one of their own rise to the mayoralty, his inauguration will bring another special first, rooted in tradition and piety.
During both of his swearing-in ceremonies, he will put his hand on the Quran, Islam’s holiest book, making him the first mayor in New York City to do so.
Mr. Mamdani is expected to use at least three unique Qurans for his public and private swearing-in ceremonies, according to a senior adviser, Zara Rahim. For his midnight swearing-in ceremony, he will use his grandfather’s Quran and one that belonged to Arturo Schomburg, the Black writer and historian. It will be lent to the mayor by the New York Public Library.
For his daytime ceremony at City Hall, he will use his grandfather’s and at least one other family Quran.
https://archive.is/wanJc#selection-509.0-707.105
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #41 on: December 31, 2025, 11:57:32 am »
Muslims are not the monolithic group you make them out to be.

True.

Radical Muslims want to behead you.

The rest of them want to watch.
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #42 on: December 31, 2025, 12:16:59 pm »
True.

Radical Muslims want to behead you.

The rest of them want to watch.

Old bromide I've stolen:  "A radical Muslim wants to behead you, a moderate Muslim wants radical Moslems to behead you."
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I will NOT comply.
 
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« Reply #43 on: December 31, 2025, 12:23:22 pm »
True.

Radical Muslims want to behead you.

The rest of them want to watch.

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« Reply #44 on: December 31, 2025, 01:57:42 pm »
When the symbol of anti-government resistance is your national flag then your government is the enemy of your nation.

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« Reply #45 on: December 31, 2025, 02:02:15 pm »
True.

Radical Muslims want to behead you.

The rest of them want to watch hold your feet while they do.

Minor correction.

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #46 on: December 31, 2025, 02:04:10 pm »
Oh Like A Somali Leering Center!

Top notch Frank Cannon!
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"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #47 on: January 01, 2026, 09:58:17 am »
God has a sense of humor. And justice.

Turkish Member of Parliament Hasan Bismet said: "Israel will suffer the wrath of Allah."
He then immediately suffered a heart attack and died.

https://twitter.com/EYakoby/status/2006044091692306676

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« Reply #48 on: January 01, 2026, 01:58:10 pm »
Top notch Frank Cannon!
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Re: No Peace Plan Will Stop the Terrorists' Jihad Against Israel
« Reply #49 on: January 01, 2026, 06:49:09 pm »
True.

Radical Muslims want to behead you.

The rest of them want to watch.
Jihad, and the rest of this behaviour are hardwired into Islam.
It isn't optional, and no part of the Koran can be omitted, altered, or added to, or it is a death sentence.
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