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Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
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In a move sending shockwaves through communities nationwide, grocery giant Kroger announced plans to close 60 stores over the next 18 months. The decision will result in the loss of up to 9,000 jobs across multiple states.

The closures affect communities from Georgia to Washington, signaling mounting pressures facing America's retail sector.

For many neighborhoods, the shuttered storefronts mean more than lost convenience—they represent a profound shift in how millions access food and employment.

Behind the Decision: Economics and Rising Theft
 
Kroger's leadership attributes multiple factors to the closures. Many affected stores have struggled with declining sales and aging infrastructure. This makes them less viable in a fiercely competitive market.

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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2025, 01:04:49 pm »
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Retail crime has escalated significantly. According to the National Retail Federation, U.S. retailers lost $112.1 billion to inventory shrinkage in 2022. Shrink includes all inventory losses—external theft (36%), employee theft (29%), and process errors (27%). External theft alone accounted for approximately $40 billion. These losses have forced companies like Kroger to rethink their presence in vulnerable areas.

As those stores age, so do the neighborhoods around them. Not all fall into decay, but those that do will likely suffer a demographic shift that is accompanied by an increase in crime; internal or external, it does not matter.
Losses are losses.

Cutting those losses keeps the rest more affordable for paying customers.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2025, 01:07:32 pm »
Cue the “racism” canard from the left.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2025, 01:13:04 pm »
Cue the “racism” canard from the left.
Want to stop that?
Tell people to stop stealing.
Sure seems the folks most visibly adamant about their 'right' to just take things have some similarities.
But, regardless, if the store has trouble making a profit, better to close it and open another somewhere a profit can be made.
Otherwise, move to NYC and stand in line at the 'Free' grocery stores.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2025, 01:14:44 pm »
Want to stop that?
Tell people to stop stealing.
Sure seems the folks most visibly adamant about their 'right' to just take things have some similarities.
But, regardless, if the store has trouble making a profit, better to close it and open another somewhere a profit can be made.
Otherwise, move to NYC and stand in line at the 'Free' grocery stores.


Of course, but that’s not what the left will claim; as they always claim, they’ll blame it on antediluvian racism on the part of the company’s management.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2025, 01:16:00 pm »
These stores get stolen blind by customers and employees.  When a Neighborhood goes south, so does the pool of the employables.  So what you have left to pick from is gypsies, tramps and thieves, mugs, pugs, thugs, nitwits, halfwits, dimwits, vipers, snipers, con men....You know your basic democrat socialist. Members of the FSA.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2025, 01:17:15 pm »

Of course, but that’s not what the left will claim; as they always claim, they’ll blame it on antediluvian racism on the part of the company’s management.
Gripe in one hand, eat out of the other. They cannot order the company to keep a money losing store open.  Besides, there will be new places to steal groceries from, >ahem< go grocery shopping.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2025, 01:21:32 pm »
Gripe in one hand, eat out of the other. They cannot order the company to keep a money losing store open.  Besides, there will be new places to steal groceries from, >ahem< go grocery shopping.

They’re working themselves up to that point.  In the meantime they can condition permits to open new profitable stores on maintaining the old stores as well. 
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2025, 01:44:42 pm »
As a kid growing up in Lynwood, Ca. A city pretty much surrounded by Watts, Southgate, Compton and Long Beach, I just don’t recall a lot of retail theft going on…oh there was some for sure but none of the retailers, other than jewelers, was locking up everyday goods. Now even in the good neighborhood I live in which is middle to upper middle class and wealthy Huntington Harbor just a mile away, they are locking every damn thing up, laundry soap, deodorants, etc., not just liquor and cigarettes……
Oddly the beer and wine is still easy pickings. I am tire of feeling like a criminal when I go shopping because some people decide to live on the five finger discount.

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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2025, 02:12:13 pm »
Another thing that wouldn't hurt is DA's that are tough on crime.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2025, 04:09:52 pm »
Joe smokes us with:
"They cannot order the company to keep a money losing store open."

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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2025, 04:31:29 pm »
As those stores age, so do the neighborhoods around them. Not all fall into decay, but those that do will likely suffer a demographic shift that is accompanied by an increase in crime; internal or external, it does not matter.
Losses are losses.

Cutting those losses keeps the rest more affordable for paying customers.
Not all stores closings suffer that crime problem as that is likely more in larger cities.  Some just cannot compete profitably.

My son lives with his family in the Black Hills in a town of less than 6,000 isolated from the nearest towns of similar size by an hour.  It is not exactly a crime-ridden town, just rural.

The local Safeway notified them a few weeks ago they are closing, so the only local grocery my son's family will be left with is Walmart.

It is just the way it goes in rural communities, especially when Walmart arrives and stays.

Another case I know about is near me in East Texas in town of about that same size which is worse for the community.  A Walmart moved in and it took just a couple of years for the local grocery and hardware stores to close down as they could not compete. 

Then Walmart closed after a few more years, leaving the community stranded with little local shopping presence.

Economics dictate, not crime or racist profiling.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2025, 04:46:19 pm »
Not all stores closings suffer that crime problem as that is likely more in larger cities.  Some just cannot compete profitably.

My son lives with his family in the Black Hills in a town of less than 6,000 isolated from the nearest towns of similar size by an hour.  It is not exactly a crime-ridden town, just rural.

The local Safeway notified them a few weeks ago they are closing, so the only local grocery my son's family will be left with is Walmart.

It is just the way it goes in rural communities, especially when Walmart arrives and stays.

Another case I know about is near me in East Texas in town of about that same size which is worse for the community.  A Walmart moved in and it took just a couple of years for the local grocery and hardware stores to close down as they could not compete. 

Then Walmart closed after a few more years, leaving the community stranded with little local shopping presence.

Economics dictate, not crime or racist profiling.

I bet he will see a DG MArket pop-up soon.  They are rolling across the southern small towns like kudzu.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2025, 06:45:24 am »
Not all stores closings suffer that crime problem as that is likely more in larger cities.  Some just cannot compete profitably.

My son lives with his family in the Black Hills in a town of less than 6,000 isolated from the nearest towns of similar size by an hour.  It is not exactly a crime-ridden town, just rural.

The local Safeway notified them a few weeks ago they are closing, so the only local grocery my son's family will be left with is Walmart.

It is just the way it goes in rural communities, especially when Walmart arrives and stays.

Another case I know about is near me in East Texas in town of about that same size which is worse for the community.  A Walmart moved in and it took just a couple of years for the local grocery and hardware stores to close down as they could not compete. 

Then Walmart closed after a few more years, leaving the community stranded with little local shopping presence.

Economics dictate, not crime or racist profiling.
While lower population areas suffer closures because the base isn't big enough to support more than one store, usually the store won't even get built. That leaves smaller options, Jack and Jill, other lesser chains, that will fill that gap if WalMart hasn't already. It's tough in more rural environments,and sometimes people will travel to fill the larder, as much as 200 miles or more (one way) because the savings when buying in bulk make the trip worthwhile. Other shopping can be done while at those larger cities.

But in those larger cities, I think you will find that decay in the area leads to people who seek lower or subsidized rent, and high crime tends to accompany that. Note, that demographics can include economics, education level, age, and not just race, and I think you will see that my comment was defensible and NOT racist unless you want to interpret it that way.

Crime is intimately linked with economics, however. If the area is crime ridden, who wants to shop there? If the store is getting seriously ripped off, a profit becomes harder to make--and according to the stats in the OP, employees are a big part of that problem, so it depends on the moral fiber of the employees as well. If the numbers show that those problems may be linked to a combination of racial and economic demographics, let the chips fall where they may. It becomes a question of the probability that the retail price will be collected for the unit of goods, and if that probability is reduced, profit will be, too, unless the loss is compensated for by higher prices.

The higher the prices, the more thieves can 'justify' their larceny, and it becomes a vicious circle until the store is closed. You might be able 'somehow' to force the store to remain open, but they don't have to stock the shelves with stuff to steal.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2025, 11:34:03 am »
Has Kroger released a list of what stores are closing yet?
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #15 on: November 10, 2025, 03:12:20 pm »
Not all stores closings suffer that crime problem as that is likely more in larger cities.  Some just cannot compete profitably.

My son lives with his family in the Black Hills in a town of less than 6,000 isolated from the nearest towns of similar size by an hour.  It is not exactly a crime-ridden town, just rural.

The local Safeway notified them a few weeks ago they are closing, so the only local grocery my son's family will be left with is Walmart.

It is just the way it goes in rural communities, especially when Walmart arrives and stays.

Another case I know about is near me in East Texas in town of about that same size which is worse for the community.  A Walmart moved in and it took just a couple of years for the local grocery and hardware stores to close down as they could not compete. 

Then Walmart closed after a few more years, leaving the community stranded with little local shopping presence.

Economics dictate, not crime or racist profiling.
When I lived up North the local council would not give Walmart a building permit. They knew the local businesses would not be able to compete. Smart move on their part.
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« Reply #16 on: November 10, 2025, 05:03:01 pm »
When I lived up North the local council would not give Walmart a building permit. They knew the local businesses would not be able to compete. Smart move on their part.
that depends.

At times, it may simply mean locals have to drive to the next town to get low cost items.
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Re: Kroger Abandons Communities—9,000 Jobs Vanish as $112B Crime Wave Wins
« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2025, 06:00:54 pm »
There hasn't been a Kroger around here in many, many years. But when there was they were higher than a cat's back with their prices. So I'm sure that shoplifting happens but probably not the only reason they are having to close stores. And with the opening of Wally World...               

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2025, 06:44:35 pm »
There hasn't been a Kroger around here in many, many years. But when there was they were higher than a cat's back with their prices. So I'm sure that shoplifting happens but probably not the only reason they are having to close stores. And with the opening of Wally World...             
We have Kroger, Vons, Albertsons and Walmart, Walmart is the cheapest for most things! But meat and produce sucks!, next is Kroger and Vons/Albertsons are the always higher price.