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Offline rangerrebew

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Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« on: October 21, 2025, 09:01:53 am »
Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
 
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There is a lot of talk about nuclear power around the world today. However, except for China and, maybe, Russia, there is no action.

Talk means nothing, but action means everything. Perhaps the reason for inaction is the massive waste of government funding for nuclear power promises. Private capital produces many times more production than government funding does. Maybe if the money were left in the hands of the people, some sense of urgency could be realized. Moreover, to secure monopolies for those who own them, massive government roadblocks are placed in the way of any competition that could disrupt the profits from these monopolies.

Such is the case for government-subsidized wind and solar projects over the last two decades. Because of mismanagement and outright corporate theft, the sizzle has come off the idea of just electricity from “renewables.” Once the private industry lost their government subsidies, wind and solar projects started shutting down. Some, of course, are still around, but no utility company will take even a single penny of risk on solar and wind production.

So, when the gravy train of government subsidies stops flowing, the profit centers move on — no gravy, no profits, no production. Then the citizens are left to clean up the mess. What a deal. Citizens pay to make the mess and now citizens pay to clean it up. All while enjoying the benefits of higher electricity costs. Maybe they will get tired of this scam and start to realize that they really need nuclear power.

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2025, 09:29:06 am »
Same reason Europe and Newsom ignore gasoline-powered vehicles and go after EVs.

Nuclear and gas both are proven to work, and that does not fit the agenda leftists have
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2025, 09:33:25 am »
Cheap energy fosters freedom, scarce energy brings control.

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2025, 09:51:25 am »
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima, China Syndrome

They still don't have a disposal location / plan for nuclear waste ... the nuclear waste from decomissionsed Pilgrim Nuclear Power Plant is still stored on site.
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2025, 10:15:26 am »
Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, Fukushima, China Syndrome

They still don't have a disposal location / plan for nuclear waste ... the nuclear waste from decomissionsed Pilgrim Nuclear Power Plant is still stored on site.
Has little to do with a functioning nuclear power plant which supplies baseload energy at low cost and long life, as well as little pollutants.

What you are describing is the hyperbole by those who oppose nuclear, not sound technical rationale.
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2025, 04:44:26 pm »
Isailed comments on RINO's previous reply:
"What you are describing is the hyperbole by those who oppose nuclear, not sound technical rationale."

Call it hyperbole.
Call it whatever you wish.
It doesn't matter WHAT one calls it.

The reality is...  that's the public perception, and that's why nuclear will continue to face an uphill climb to re-establish itself -- if it ever can again.

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2025, 07:10:20 pm »
More nukes, less kooks.
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2025, 01:56:16 am »
Has little to do with a functioning nuclear power plant which supplies baseload energy at low cost and long life, as well as little pollutants.

What you are describing is the hyperbole by those who oppose nuclear, not sound technical rationale.
Yes, the plants work, that is not in question.

Actually, the waste problem has been around since I was in grad school.
Fuel rods are still stored on site at many reactors in the US.
Yucca Mountain is loaded with natural fracture systems, the salt dome disposal has problems, the Canadian shield is still in isostatic rebound (and fracturing as a result).
The problem has not been solved for the 10,000 year storage anticipated to be necessary.
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2025, 03:52:29 pm »
Yes, the plants work, that is not in question.

Actually, the waste problem has been around since I was in grad school.
Fuel rods are still stored on site at many reactors in the US.
Yucca Mountain is loaded with natural fracture systems, the salt dome disposal has problems, the Canadian shield is still in isostatic rebound (and fracturing as a result).
The problem has not been solved for the 10,000 year storage anticipated to be necessary.
So the question is "Trust the Science" or "Do not Trust the Science"?

So what about storage of waste material?  Nuclear power is stored safely under a lockdown situation in plants or nuclear powered ships.

A single EV can bring down a ship at sea.  And billions of lithium batteries that cannot be disposed of any more safely than nuclear waste.

Lithium batteries permeate the globe and can incinerate you.  Yet we use them and increasingly demand more be made.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=571095.0

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=444350.msg2468635#msg2468635

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/horror-moment-battery-blows-up-33328678
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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2025, 04:06:56 pm »
Because Jane Fonda said it was bad back in the 70's.

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #10 on: October 22, 2025, 04:10:15 pm »
Coal has nasty radiation and air effects too in the immediate area and beyond, but there are no scary names like "Fukushima" (which I believe not a single person was killed by the radiation IIRC.)

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #11 on: October 22, 2025, 06:16:29 pm »
Why some might regard "Fukushima" as being "scary":
https://youtu.be/haUawwm7l4k?t=15

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #12 on: October 22, 2025, 08:59:24 pm »
Why some might regard "Fukushima" as being "scary":
https://youtu.be/haUawwm7l4k?t=15

Thought that due to a buildup of hydrogen, not nuclear materiel?

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Re: Why does the world insanely ignore nuclear power?
« Reply #13 on: October 22, 2025, 11:25:23 pm »
So the question is "Trust the Science" or "Do not Trust the Science"?

So what about storage of waste material?  Nuclear power is stored safely under a lockdown situation in plants or nuclear powered ships.

A single EV can bring down a ship at sea.  And billions of lithium batteries that cannot be disposed of any more safely than nuclear waste.

Lithium batteries permeate the globe and can incinerate you.  Yet we use them and increasingly demand more be made.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=571095.0

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=444350.msg2468635#msg2468635

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/horror-moment-battery-blows-up-33328678
I recognize the problems and benefits of nuclear power.

I never mentioned lithium batteries, so put up your strawman.

I work in the oil industry.

No power generation/energy industry is perfect, all have their problems, but IMHO, lithium batteries are not the solution to power generation.
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