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Re: Hamburger Helper Sales Rise as Americans Try to Stretch Their Food Dollars
« Reply #100 on: September 23, 2025, 12:17:14 pm »
Chili leftovers reheat better than just about anything else!
Pizza leftovers are better and you don't have to reheat it!
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« Reply #101 on: September 23, 2025, 12:24:23 pm »
Portion and freeze the extra chili.

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« Reply #102 on: September 23, 2025, 12:24:44 pm »
Pizza leftovers are better and you don't have to reheat it!

True on both counts!   Dijorno is as expensive as carryout Domino's, and their pizza is a lot better than it used to be!
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« Reply #103 on: September 23, 2025, 12:26:20 pm »
Portion and freeze the extra chili.

You can also can it easily if you have a pressure cooker handy.
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« Reply #104 on: September 23, 2025, 12:37:23 pm »
Pizza leftovers are better and you don't have to reheat it!

I love cold leftover pizza...
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« Reply #105 on: September 23, 2025, 01:06:31 pm »
...bout time I make my huge pot of chili for the freezer..
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« Reply #106 on: September 23, 2025, 01:08:50 pm »
I'm sorry, but Hamburger Helper these days is pure townie laziness. If you can't grow it yourself, hit the Amish or Mennonite stores for bulk. Our local one even lets you buy online to ship.

Find out if and where you can get quarter, half, whole beef from the local farmer. Here it runs $4-$4.50/lb. People whine of the cost of front, well save your pennies then till you got enough. Shop the discount stores like Aldi, Food Lion, and watch the sales. Pork is alot cheaper as is chicken, so switch it up.

And you can grow stuff in containers on the porch or raised beds. There are dozens of books and Youtube videos on how to do it. You'd be shocked on what you can grow in a very small space, and how much you can save.

I have zero tolerance in this modern day of people who don't apply themselves and have zero resourcefulness. With online out there the world is at your fingertips. Can't tell you how much I have saved and upped my self-sufficiency game by just putting some effort into spending as little money as I need to. I think it's something we're all going to need from now on out till we work thru the effects of our last round of inflation.

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« Reply #107 on: September 23, 2025, 04:25:00 pm »
@roamer_1 once posted a recipe for a Ramen noodle omelet!  Mrs. Liberty has a few good recipes using the noodles, with meat and chopped peppers!


Oh, you can get *good* ramen noodles nowadays... not that crappy ramen  in the square packets for a buck...

The good stuff is almost reminiscent of a spaghetti noodle ... Alright too starchy for that comparison, but still... The REAL ramen has a nicer bite, almost springy on the fork... It's a whole nuther thing.

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« Reply #108 on: September 23, 2025, 04:29:39 pm »
I love cold leftover pizza...

Left in the box overnight, with just a little crustiness from dryin out just a touch...Oh, man! Truly, the best possible breakfast of them all.

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« Reply #109 on: September 23, 2025, 05:03:15 pm »
Left in the box overnight, with just a little crustiness from dryin out just a touch...Oh, man! Truly, the best possible breakfast of them all.


Dang it! You beat me. :laugh: Fun fact...cold left over pizza is also a breakfast food. I will say I've been leery about leaving it out of the fridge in the box. But that's just me.

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« Reply #110 on: September 23, 2025, 05:09:56 pm »

Dang it! You beat me. :laugh: Fun fact...cold left over pizza is also a breakfast food. I will say I've been leery about leaving it out of the fridge in the box. But that's just me.

See, Mamma always put it away in the fridge, inside of zippy bags... And it got all soft and pudgy. Now, I'd eat it, mind you - It's pizza after all.

But after I got out on my own, after a large party with friends... THAT's where I learned of the sheer delicacy of pizza left overnight in the box.

Now, bear in mind, I live in the great white north -no bugs. No oppressive heat so it won't spoil - So  leaving it out works just fine.  happy77

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« Reply #111 on: September 23, 2025, 05:28:24 pm »
See, Mamma always put it away in the fridge, inside of zippy bags... And it got all soft and pudgy. Now, I'd eat it, mind you - It's pizza after all.

But after I got out on my own, after a large party with friends... THAT's where I learned of the sheer delicacy of pizza left overnight in the box.

Now, bear in mind, I live in the great white north -no bugs. No oppressive heat so it won't spoil - So  leaving it out works just fine.  happy77

Absolutely. Leaving it in the box overnight “ages” the pizza perfectly.
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« Reply #112 on: September 23, 2025, 05:32:15 pm »
Left in the box overnight, with just a little crustiness from dryin out just a touch...Oh, man! Truly, the best possible breakfast of them all.

Exactly....
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« Reply #113 on: September 23, 2025, 05:32:21 pm »
Well, except my middle class household. So I guess there was one.
Make it two. Macaroni (or whatever configuration of pasta that floats your boat, hamburger, tomato paste, tomatoes (home canned the best), onion, some spices...

Add your own salt to taste.

I can't say how many times we came in from deer or duck hunting (for food!) to a huge pot of soup. There were ways to take the leftovers from carving slices off a ham and turn it into a pot of ham and bean soup that would stick to your ribs. My mother even baked her own bread, cookies, and cake from scratch, something I learned to do, too. If you want convenient, something you dump out of a can, you are going to pay for it.
That hasn't changed, but home made is best.

We ate a lot of wild game and fish, clams, oysters, and crabs we harvested ourselves. Once in a while we even ate beef or pork, and had chicken when my grandfather culled the herd.

Biden raised the price of fuel with his policies, day one, and that surcharge still lingers. Everything on the shelf today not covered in dust has it wired in.

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« Reply #114 on: September 23, 2025, 05:45:35 pm »
Sorry Tiger

The topic of this thread was people having to buy Hamburger Helper in order to try to stretch their food budget. That’s government policy that’s causing much of that.

And when I simply pointed out one of the big reasons why, despite the president claiming that grocery prices are going down, that triggered you

If this article came out, and Biden was president, I can promise that you wouldn’t be demanding I stay on topic.

Hypocrite


The first step in fixing the problem is to admit there is one.
I am not sure where you live, but prices have been going down here.
As fuel prices have dropped, so has much else. (87 octane gasoline under Biden was 150% what it costs here now.)
It's slow, and beef remains high because of the old supply/demand thing (livestock auction prices are up because not as many critters are going to market--partly because ranchers are building herds, and because they cut them under Biden because the extra cost of fuel made it more expensive to feed them, whether it be hay or a finishing feed.)

People buying Hamburger Helper to 'stretch' their grocery budget haven't even worn the shiny off the pots and pans they paid too much for as some sort of culinary virtue signal.
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« Reply #115 on: September 23, 2025, 05:54:10 pm »
And there it is

I’ve been saying that since George Bush‘s second term when it became clear the Republicans in 2006 and 2008 were  headed for disaster


Government can put on all the fancy stats it wants. But if people are not experiencing it and seeing it in their daily lives, they perceive the government as disconnected from the issues facing average people. And they will punish those in charge.


And I’ve said many times on this forum that the Biden strategy was to tell people they’re not really seeing  what they’re seeing and not experiencing what they’re experiencing


Trump was able to exploit that because he was the challenger in 2024. He doesn’t have that luxury anymore. And the Democrats will exploit that in 2026 and especially in 2028. Don’t let polls claiming that they’re in the gutter fool you into thinking no matter what the Republicans do, they’ll always hold office.

It’s one thing if people can’t afford that big giant screen TV they wanted. When they can’t afford the basics of life, we have a problem

Democrats have already succeeded in exploiting people’s skepticism of the BBB. They’ll do the same with rising grocery prices, even though they themselves don’t really have a plan to bring them down.
Ever stop to think the 55" TV on the wall (on just one of the walls) and the $1000+ phone in their hand might be part of why they re having a little trouble at the supermarket (that they drove to in a car with a TV screen in the dash?). There have been few times in my life that I haven't been able to set aside a 'want' to take care of my needs.

How much are these people spending on interest in a month?
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« Reply #116 on: September 23, 2025, 05:57:44 pm »
Ever stop to think the 55" TV on the wall (on just one of the walls) and the $1000+ phone in their hand might be part of why they re having a little trouble at the supermarket (that they drove to in a car with a TV screen in the dash?). There have been few times in my life that I haven't been able to set aside a 'want' to take care of my needs.

How much are these people spending on interest in a month?
Absolutely. Tack on the monthly streaming service bills and other apps. So much waste.

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« Reply #117 on: September 23, 2025, 06:03:45 pm »
Absolutely. Tack on the monthly streaming service bills and other apps. So much waste.
Yep. It isn't the groceries that are the problem so much. It's how they spend their money.
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« Reply #118 on: September 23, 2025, 06:15:57 pm »
Yep. It isn't the groceries that are the problem so much. It's how they spend their money.
And don't get me started on what they'll be spending on Christmas.

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« Reply #119 on: September 23, 2025, 06:19:44 pm »
Let's not forget tattoos and piercings. I see dirt poor white trash on welfare sporting at least a couple of grand of that stuff around on a daily basis.
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« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2025, 06:21:08 pm »
Let's not forget tattoos and piercings. I see dirt poor white trash on welfare sporting at least a couple of grand of that stuff around on a daily basis.
Yep.
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« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2025, 06:24:15 pm »
Ever stop to think the 55" TV on the wall (on just one of the walls) and the $1000+ phone in their hand might be part of why they re having a little trouble at the supermarket (that they drove to in a car with a TV screen in the dash?). There have been few times in my life that I haven't been able to set aside a 'want' to take care of my needs.

How much are these people spending on interest in a month?

Could be, but you think these people voted for Trump because he wanted the keep the status quo as far as prices go? I don't.

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« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2025, 06:34:32 pm »
Could be, but you think these people voted for Trump because he wanted the keep the status quo as far as prices go? I don't.

My brother is a retired UAW skilled worker (electrician) FORD Motor Corp, and has access to their "Z Plan".

He had to replace his F150 because he hit a deer.

He just paid over $100K!!!!   For a freaking pick-up!

edit to add: no wonder they're bringing back Hamburger Helper
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« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2025, 08:01:12 pm »
Ever stop to think the 55" TV on the wall (on just one of the walls) and the $1000+ phone in their hand might be part of why they re having a little trouble at the supermarket (that they drove to in a car with a TV screen in the dash?). There have been few times in my life that I haven't been able to set aside a 'want' to take care of my needs.

How much are these people spending on interest in a month?

Well, sorta... I see what you're getting at...

But I have a 55" tv I bought broke for 50 bucks and fixed it.

If you don't mind rebuilding a transmission or something, there's flat hundreds of cars out there with tvs on the dash under 1000 bucks - many under 500.

It's always been the same way - and how us rednecks get nice things.  :whistle: :shrug:

It don't have to be a bank payment.

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« Reply #124 on: September 23, 2025, 08:06:56 pm »
Absolutely. Leaving it in the box overnight “ages” the pizza perfectly.

But not too long... If you wake up mid-afternoon, the dang stuff has started turning into jerky.  THEN you're better to throw it in a frying pan with butter - cover it just long enough to wake up the cheese and get it bubbling,and then take the lid off.... Let the crust go golden and then it's passing fare again  :cool:

Fried pizza is second to cold pizza, but it'll do.

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« Reply #125 on: September 23, 2025, 10:23:52 pm »
Ever stop to think the 55" TV on the wall (on just one of the walls) and the $1000+ phone in their hand might be part of why they re having a little trouble at the supermarket (that they drove to in a car with a TV screen in the dash?). There have been few times in my life that I haven't been able to set aside a 'want' to take care of my needs.

How much are these people spending on interest in a month?

I heard left-wingers make the same argument when prices went up under Biden and the voters were unhappy


But it’s the groceries

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/11/trump-tariffs-grocery-prices-rise-cpi


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JSMI0DZilFg

https://www.usatoday.com/story/grocery/2025/09/23/why-grocery-prices-going-up/86296793007/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grocery-prices-rising-midwest-heres-171323540.html

https://restaurant.org/research-and-media/research/restaurant-economic-insights/economic-indicators/menu-prices/


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« Reply #126 on: September 23, 2025, 10:59:12 pm »
Well, sorta... I see what you're getting at...

But I have a 55" tv I bought broke for 50 bucks and fixed it.

If you don't mind rebuilding a transmission or something, there's flat hundreds of cars out there with tvs on the dash under 1000 bucks - many under 500.

It's always been the same way - and how us rednecks get nice things.  :whistle: :shrug:

It don't have to be a bank payment.
That's us rednecks. Not most folks. Jus' sayin'.

(And I don't want a TV in my dashboard!)
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« Reply #127 on: September 23, 2025, 11:18:37 pm »
I heard left-wingers make the same argument when prices went up under Biden and the voters were unhappy


But it’s the groceries

https://www.axios.com/2025/09/11/trump-tariffs-grocery-prices-rise-cpi


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JSMI0DZilFg

https://www.usatoday.com/story/grocery/2025/09/23/why-grocery-prices-going-up/86296793007/

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/grocery-prices-rising-midwest-heres-171323540.html

https://restaurant.org/research-and-media/research/restaurant-economic-insights/economic-indicators/menu-prices/
Ninety five dollars. Shampoo, conditioner, Detangler, and body wash were included as groceries. Not. You don't eat them, but they (depending on brand) can eat half that 'grocery bill'. I know, I take granddaughters to Walmart. Go-gurt (small tubes of yogurt) expensive. Snack bars, etc.

I eat a lot of Beef Jerky on wellsite, and know just how expensive such snacks are (and that's a lot cheaper than convenience store prices).

None of that jumps out to me as being basic groceries. Your choices are a lot of what you spend. As for the one howling about spenng $1700.00 on groceries, not even, ever, for three kids and Mrs. Joe and I did we spend that then, nor if I bought the same things now, would we spend that now.

I'm not sure what cage-free, certified organic, non GMO, pedigreed  avocados (or whatever) she is living on, nor how large an army she is feeding, but I'd bet she could have eaten just as well skinning her own chicken breasts for a lot less. A tremendous amount of what people spend money on isn't anything but convenience and packaging. I have no idea what is being pumped into delivered pre portioned or prep worked 'meals' delivered to their homes, and the whole video was real short on comparing prices from then to now on specific items.

I just know I seem to eat (a diet heavy in protein, especially red meat, eggs, and cheese) a lot cheaper than these folks.

But if you want boutique food you can spend as much as you want to. You just don't have to in order to eat a nutritious diet.
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« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2025, 12:29:54 am »
But it’s the groceries

Grocery inflation highest since 2022 as Trump tariffs pile up

This is yet another post hoc fallacy.  See the title?  They put two events side by side, and then insinuate that one caused the other without providing any supporting causal evidence.  There is no connection between tariffs and rising grocery prices.

Let's examine the 11% rise in grocery prices from 2021 to 2022.  Did tariffs cause that increase?  Or was it something else?  One could even reverse the 'post hoc' by saying that Trump's tariffs reduced grocery inflation since 2022.  But that would be equally dishonest.

If you want to know what causes grocery inflation, then look for a cause that was in effect in 2022 as well as 2025.  There is one commonality that quickly comes to mind - the expansion of the money supply.  And last time I took an economics class, we were taught that more dollars chasing fewer goods is what causes prices to rise.

If you want to end inflation, then stop printing money.  It really is that simple.  But don't blame tariffs.  That's just asinine.

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« Reply #129 on: September 24, 2025, 02:59:08 am »
Not sure the cause, but YES grocery prices are up. It was worse under Biden, but yes prices are still going up under Trump too. Hamburger is the new Steak.
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Re: Hamburger Helper Sales Rise as Americans Try to Stretch Their Food Dollars
« Reply #130 on: September 24, 2025, 03:28:45 am »
Not sure the cause, but YES grocery prices are up. It was worse under Biden, but yes prices are still going up under Trump too. Hamburger is the new Steak.
Beef herds are down, size wise, and will take time to recover. One calf a year, generally, and they don't all go to market, and certainly not right away.

Biden energy policy caused a huge rise in fuel prices, and that led to trimming herds, because every bale of hay, every herd move (changing pastures), shipping, etc. all cost more under Biden. Those costs have been dropping.

Now that fuel is more reasonable, it will take a couple of years to bring herds back up in number.
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« Reply #131 on: September 24, 2025, 08:52:15 am »
Wow….

Reading some of the posts here I’m taken  back to the late 1970s when Democrats were telling people that they’ll have to go with less. In 1980 there was a candidate who disagreed and thankfully he won and that was Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Blaming big screen TVs and piercings and tattoos when the dollar has lost 10% of its value since Trump has taken office. Does anybody understand what that means? Things are gonna cost more.

But the GOP  should run on that. Blame the American people why many of them are struggling to pay for groceries

Plus, it’s the height of arrogance to assume that people who are struggling to afford groceries is because they’re spending the food budget on piercings and other  frivolities

To me, sounds eerily familiar when Democrats lose elections, they declare  that people didn’t vote for their best interest. Their best interests determined by the left, of course


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« Reply #132 on: September 24, 2025, 09:56:19 am »
Wow….

Reading some of the posts here I’m taken  back to the late 1970s when Democrats were telling people that they’ll have to go with less. In 1980 there was a candidate who disagreed and thankfully he won and that was Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Blaming big screen TVs and piercings and tattoos when the dollar has lost 10% of its value since Trump has taken office. Does anybody understand what that means? Things are gonna cost more.

But the GOP  should run on that. Blame the American people why many of them are struggling to pay for groceries

Plus, it’s the height of arrogance to assume that people who are struggling to afford groceries is because they’re spending the food budget on piercings and other  frivolities

To me, sounds eerily familiar when Democrats lose elections, they declare  that people didn’t vote for their best interest. Their best interests determined by the left, of course

Guess math is not your strong suit.
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« Reply #133 on: September 24, 2025, 10:34:33 am »
Wow….

Reading some of the posts here I’m taken  back to the late 1970s when Democrats were telling people that they’ll have to go with less. In 1980 there was a candidate who disagreed and thankfully he won and that was Ronald Wilson Reagan.

Blaming big screen TVs and piercings and tattoos when the dollar has lost 10% of its value since Trump has taken office. Does anybody understand what that means? Things are gonna cost more.

But the GOP  should run on that. Blame the American people why many of them are struggling to pay for groceries

Plus, it’s the height of arrogance to assume that people who are struggling to afford groceries is because they’re spending the food budget on piercings and other  frivolities

To me, sounds eerily familiar when Democrats lose elections, they declare  that people didn’t vote for their best interest. Their best interests determined by the left, of course

Seems to me the candidate who won in 1980 told us we were all going to have to tighten our belts and wait to see if his economic policies were going to work.
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« Reply #134 on: September 24, 2025, 10:36:39 am »
Blaming big screen TVs and piercings and tattoos when the dollar has lost 10% of its value since Trump has taken office. Does anybody understand what that means? Things are gonna cost more.

Funny, guess Reagan was a failure because inflation was raging well after he took office and Volker finally put the nail in the coffin with 20% rates.
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« Reply #135 on: September 24, 2025, 10:42:57 am »
Putting aside Free Vulcans snarky reply, it appears that Trump and the Republicans are following the same strategy that Biden and the Democrats did all the way up to their loss in 2024

Telling people that everything is going great in the country when they are not seeing and experiencing it themselves is a sure way to eventually electoral disaster. 

Come next year, this is how I believe the midterm campaigns may go and we’ll see if I’m right

Democrats are gonna run on the economy, especially the cost of living. Kitchen table issues

Republicans are gonna run more on the culture wars.

We will see which side prevails in November 2026. Will making sure a man doesn’t go into a woman’s bathroom win over working and middle class people finding it more difficult to afford basics?

Harris tried this in 2024 and it didn’t work. She thought the abortion issue would put her over the top. But it was the economic issues that ultimately decided that election. Here in Wisconsin, we were bombarded the last two weeks going into the 2024 election with an ad of her saying on “The View” that  she wouldn’t change anything from the Biden administration


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« Reply #136 on: September 24, 2025, 10:48:16 am »
I disagree the Democrats are going to lead the economic issues, but I have been wrong before.  Right now they are insane about it like everything else, so we'll see.
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« Reply #137 on: September 24, 2025, 10:48:36 am »
Funny, guess Reagan was a failure because inflation was raging well after he took office and Volker finally put the nail in the coffin with 20% rates.

Hardly

What Reagan inherited from Carter and what Trump inherited from Biden  are not even comparable

The economy was in a state of stagflation when Reagan ran and took office. And we also had an energy crisis.





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« Reply #138 on: September 24, 2025, 10:49:17 am »
Seems to me the candidate who won in 1980 told us we were all going to have to tighten our belts and wait to see if his economic policies were going to work.

No, he did not

Jimmy Carter lost in 1980

You must have missed Carter’s so called “Malaise Speech”
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« Reply #139 on: September 24, 2025, 10:56:24 am »
I disagree the Democrats are going to lead the economic issues, but I have been wrong before.  Right now they are insane about it like everything else, so we'll see.

They are insane

Yet, they are either better  performing in  these 2025 special elections from Harris’s performance in 2024 or even flipping districts that voted for Trump and by some pretty wide margins.

Midterms are always tough for whatever party occupies the White House. The only exception I’ve really seen  in my lifetime was in 2002 and George W. Bush was still very popular and 911 was still fresh on the voters minds

I’m not saying that the Democrats are better on economic issues than the Republicans. And they really don’t have a plan other than price controls for bringing costs down.

But they have the advantage of being the challengers.
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« Reply #140 on: September 24, 2025, 11:11:04 am »
No, he did not

Jimmy Carter lost in 1980

You must have missed Carter’s so called “Malaise Speech”

A part of Reagan's stratergery called for personal austerity measures.
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« Reply #141 on: September 24, 2025, 11:26:16 am »
I disagree the Democrats are going to lead the economic issues, but I have been wrong before.  Right now they are insane about it like everything else, so we'll see.

The DEMS are insane period.

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« Reply #142 on: September 24, 2025, 11:38:09 am »
The DEMS are insane period.

When I lived in Minnesota, the only democrat that I consistently voted for was James Oberstar.
He was pro-life
He supported gun rights

He was a supporter of mining on the Iron Range

I can’t help but wonder what his reaction would be today to see his party embrace concepts like men can get pregnant

Same with people like Mondale, Perpich, or Paul Wellstone. Speaking of Wellstone, I had a chance to meet him back in the early 90s when he came to our campus pushing for national socialist medicine

Nicest most personable guy you could ever meet. Just wrong on policy.

Now Minnesota is being run by a guy who thinks tampons should go in boys bathrooms….lol


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« Reply #143 on: September 24, 2025, 11:59:38 am »
How can Dems lead on economic issues when they are anti-capitalist, pro-tax, pro-Bigger Government?

Dems don't understand supply vs demand.  They believe Government can wave a magic wand to manifest something from nothing.  There is no magic wand.  They steal it.

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« Reply #144 on: September 24, 2025, 12:24:15 pm »
How can Dems lead on economic issues when they are anti-capitalist, pro-tax, pro-Bigger Government?

Dems don't understand supply vs demand.  They believe Government can wave a magic wand to manifest something from nothing.  There is no magic wand.  They steal it.


That’s been the Democratic Party platform all my life

The difference is now is they believe that men are women and women are men

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The LGBQT+ He-she obsession with Dems is the current outlet for their proclivity for Social Re-Engineering.  The same crap that gave us the Great Society and Forced Busing.


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« Reply #146 on: September 24, 2025, 01:39:39 pm »
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« Reply #147 on: September 24, 2025, 03:01:44 pm »
Seems to me the candidate who won in 1980 told us we were all going to have to tighten our belts and wait to see if his economic policies were going to work.
Back to the culture of instantaneous gratification, which has been griping that in a whole six months Trump (all by his lonesome) hasn't been able to overcome the destruction of Biden/Congressional fiscal (and other) policy that would make drunken sailors blush that went on for four years.
Motor fuel prices are down, and that is key to reducing costs, and eventually prices of most everything.

Most significantly, No 2 diesel is down from a peak of $5.63 (5/30/2022) to about $3.79, and that was one of the premium drivers for the cost of transporting goods by truck, which is just about everything. https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMD_EPD2D_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W

Regular gasoline has seen a similar drop in price, dropping from $4.84 to $3.05 per gallon.

https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=EMM_EPMRU_PTE_NUS_DPG&f=W

These are the fuels that move people and goods in America. It takes time for those savings to trickle back through and show up in store prices, partly because the stock in the warehouses got there with higher fuel prices.
Prices, when driven by costs, will go up fast and come down more slowly--you see it at the gas pump when oil spikes and drops.

So, if in barely eight months since he was sworn in, everything isn't dirt cheap, give it time. Hiring Americans to do the jobs they would have done for a reasonable wage will cost a little more. Peeling back regulations and restrictions which make it more expensive to make things here or for this market will take time, and even longer for the effects of that deregulation to be felt.

Maybe it is just me, but the prices of things I buy (beef, up, but the herds are down in numbers and being rebuilt (the gestation period for a cow is 283 days, longer than that of a human, and it's two years to market), eggs (back down, last dozen cost $2.79) fuel, back down (last gallon the same as a dozen eggs, if you don't count the 9/10 cents on the end). With the exception of a few grocery items which have gone up (and which come from outside the US-canned mushrooms come to mind) most items have either come down in price or stabilized over the past few months, at least what I use.

But turning an economy is like turning a supertanker. It takes time and a bit of room.
I'm content that something IS being done, and if we can get the damn Congress to quit spending like they do, maybe it will even be meaningful.
When regulatory and other changes are codified and not just Executive Orders, the confidence at the supplier, wholesale, and retail level will be higher.
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« Reply #148 on: September 24, 2025, 05:07:04 pm »
Beef herds are down, size wise, and will take time to recover. One calf a year, generally, and they don't all go to market, and certainly not right away.

Biden energy policy caused a huge rise in fuel prices, and that led to trimming herds, because every bale of hay, every herd move (changing pastures), shipping, etc. all cost more under Biden. Those costs have been dropping.

Now that fuel is more reasonable, it will take a couple of years to bring herds back up in number.

Yup. Don't forget the entire Southwest (about OK and all points southward) selling their herds from drought. And shipping inn their hay and grain to keep what they did (putting pressure on the system somewhere else, raising prices)... And you're right. it will take two years to bring that up. And maybe really four... You will have some going to slaughter, but replacing, rebuilding means keeping em, and maybe for the next few years, all you'll be getting is steers.

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« Reply #149 on: September 24, 2025, 05:17:01 pm »
Yup. Don't forget the entire Southwest (about OK and all points southward) selling their herds from drought. And shipping inn their hay and grain to keep what they did (putting pressure on the system somewhere else, raising prices)... And you're right. it will take two years to bring that up. And maybe really four... You will have some going to slaughter, but replacing, rebuilding means keeping em, and maybe for the next few years, all you'll be getting is steers.
Steers, old cows and the occasional bull. Heifers are doomed to become unwed mothers.  :beer:
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