Charlie Kirk shot

[Hoodat]

I would take it and use it to hire the best criminal defense lawyer I could get for $100k.

Give it to a lawyer?  No effin' way.

His son isn't going to beat this.  The best he can do is plead guilty and hope for life in prison.  From what I can tell, only a jury can issue a death sentence.  And if he pleads, there is no jury.  Maybe someone with knowledge of Utah law can chime in.

[bigheadfred]

I’ve not seen anything that says where he was a student.

According to the grok AI on X.

"Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old suspect in the fatal shooting of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University on September 10, 2025,  was a student at Utah State University. He attended for only one semester in 2021 on a scholarship, according to insiders and reports from the time of the incident. He was not a student at Utah Valley University, where the shooting occurred, as confirmed by Utah Governor Spencer Cox."

[Hoodat]

Utah State is in Logan.  Nice town.

[bigheadfred]

Utah State is in Logan.  Nice town.

I was born in Logan.

[MeganC]

He wasn't a student at UVU.

True. Governor Cox confirmed that this morning and the Cody Enterprise has edited their article that said otherwise.

[DB]

I would take it and use it to hire the best criminal defense lawyer I could get for $100k.


Yes he id a horrible act taking a life.  Yes he should be punished.

But the way I look at it...he's still my son...I still love him and there will always be the strong need to protect him...even if it's from himself...so I will do what I need to do to ensure he has the best defense at his trial.

I'd see it as blood money. A reward from something terrible my son did. I couldn't touch it.

[Polly Ticks]

http://twitter.com/SteveBakerUSA/status/1966518015815540806


This bothered me, too.  Very strange.

[American Girl]

Excerpt:
The plot thickens in the tragic assassination of conservative trailblazer Charlie Kirk, and it’s painting a picture of calculated radicalism that’s impossible to ignore. Utah Governor Spencer Cox dropped bombshells in a press conference today, confirming that 22-year-old Tyler Robinson—the monster now in custody—didn’t act alone. Robinson, who confessed to his sheriff dad before getting turned in, coordinated with at least one accomplice via Discord to snag the rifle from a pre-arranged drop point. And those bullet casings? Engraved with taunts like “Hey Fascist! Catch!” and references to “Bella Ciao,” the WWII Italian antifascist resistance song that’s become an ANTIFA anthem. It’s straight out of the far-left playbook, screaming the ideology that fueled this hate crime.




When do all the leftists get held accountable for spreading their woke mind virus?
'Friends on Discord' == CIA manager
https://redstatenation.com/breaking-utah-governor-confirms-others-assisted-tyler-robinson-in-kirk-killing-discord-coordination-bullet-casings-say-everything-about-his-ideology/

[Hoodat]

I was born in Logan.

See?  That's why Logan is famous!

[Free Vulcan]

Clay Travis
@ClayTravis
·
23m
Antifascist and anti-Nazi messages were engraved on the assassin’s bullets. Democrats have spent ten years labeling their political opponents as Nazis and fascists. They radicalized this kid and he wrote their political messaging on the bullets he used to kill Charlie Kirk.

I doubt he did the engraving, it looks to me he was part of a cell. Now everyone involved needs tracked down and arrested.

[txradioguy]

Give it to a lawyer?  No effin' way.

His son isn't going to beat this.  The best he can do is plead guilty and hope for life in prison.  From what I can tell, only a jury can issue a death sentence.  And if he pleads, there is no jury.  Maybe someone with knowledge of Utah law can chime in.

I know he's not going to beat it.  But that lawyer can still try to keep him from a needle or a firing squad.

[Free Vulcan]

@American Girl - please post any Charlie Kirk material in the ongoing thread.

[MeganC]

I doubt he did the engraving, it looks to me he was part of a cell. Now everyone involved needs tracked down and arrested.

I do engraving with a Dremel. It's pretty easy.

[MOD7]

Merged.  Charlie Kirk posts go here.

[mountaineer]

There are screenshots of social media posts from before the shooting, made by at least two other people, all giddy about what's going to happen at Utah Valley on Wednesday. Also, the song someone posted about "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31," which also was done before Wednesday.

You cannot persuade me these kids weren't in on it, and I certainly hope law enforcement drags their butts into custody. What roles did they play in the planning and execution (no pun intended) of the murder?

[Bigun]

There are screenshots of social media posts from before the shooting, made by at least two other people, all giddy about what's going to happen at Utah Valley on Wednesday. Also, the song someone posted about "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31," which also was done before Wednesday.

You cannot persuade me these kids weren't in on it, and I certainly hope law enforcement drags their butts into custody. What roles did they play in the planning and execution (no pun intended) of the murder?

 

[mystery-ak]

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox: Alleged Charlie Kirk Assassin Tyler Robinson Messaged Roommate About ‘Need to Retrieve a Rifle’

Utah Gov. Spencer Cox indicated alleged assassin Tyler Robinson messaged his roommate on Discord about the “need to retrieve a rifle.”

https://www.breitbart.com/2nd-amendment/2025/09/12/utah-gov-spencer-cox-alleged-charlie-kirk-assassin-tyler-robinson-messaged-roommate-about-need-to-retrieve-a-rifle/

[DB]

There are screenshots of social media posts from before the shooting, made by at least two other people, all giddy about what's going to happen at Utah Valley on Wednesday. Also, the song someone posted about "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31," which also was done before Wednesday.

You cannot persuade me these kids weren't in on it, and I certainly hope law enforcement drags their butts into custody. What roles did they play in the planning and execution (no pun intended) of the murder?

It could well involve the entire Antifa underground. Treat it for what it is, a terrorist organization.

[mystery-ak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFN8bCT2XJ4&ab_channel=Zeteo

[mountaineer]

I doubt he did the engraving, it looks to me he was part of a cell. Now everyone involved needs tracked down and arrested.

Andy Ngo (who knows Antifa like no one else, considering they've tried to kill him) posted on X:

Breaking: Rifle cartridges from the Charlie Kirk assassination are confirmed marked with Antifa phrases, including lyrics from the Antifa song, “Bella Ciao.” In 2019, Antifa gunman Willem van Spronsen also ended his ICE attack manifesto with the same song.

There also is this:

Andy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
All of these young high-profile shooters and mass shooters in the U.S. are actively on @discord. Some, as minors, were radicalized and groomed on there.
11:53 AM · Sep 12, 2025

Bala
@skorpien
Discord and Reddit are breeding grounds for many cultural and societal issues.
11:58 AM · Sep 12, 2025

[Hoodat]

Axelrod: ‘Despicable’ Conservatives Are Declaring We Are at War

Pam Key  |  11 Sep 2025

CNN senior political commentator and former Obama adviser David Axelrod said Thursday on “Anderson Cooper 360” that conservatives saying we are at war in response to the assassination of Charlie Kirk were being “despicable.”

Axelrod said, “You know, the thing that I heard last night, those clips from from Steve Bannon and from Alex Jones, and here’s the problem.”

Cooper said, “Jesse Watters. I don’t know if he actually has ever been to a war zone, but, he’s talking about war.”

Axelrod continued, “Yeah. I mean, Dave Urban has. So he knows this, when, you know, wars have specific meanings., when you say we’re in a war after someone has been shot, it’s really an invitation to other people to commit acts of violence and that’s a despicable thing.  .  .  .

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/09/11/axelrod-despicable-conservatives-are-declaring-we-are-at-war/

[mountaineer]

when you say we’re in a war after someone has been shot, it’s really an invitation to other people to commit acts of violence and that’s a despicable thing.

Hey, Axelrod - we didn't fire the first shot.

[MeganC]

Here's one thing I am taking away from all of this:

Anytime someone calls you a "Nazi!" or a "Fascist!" they are making a clear and unambiguous death threat.

Respond accordingly to protect your safety and the safety of others. 

[LMAO]

Well, Amber, I will NEVER watch any film or stage production with you in it. If you end up in a commercial, I will boycott the product. I wouldn't even crap in a toilet if you  scrubbed it. Have a nice life.

I don’t even know who she is or what movie she’s acted in or what song she ever sang

I never knew she even existed until this thread

[Hoodat]

Hey, Axelrod - we didn't fire the first shot.

According to Axelrod, it isn't the assassination of Kirk that is despicable.  It's Conservatives finally acknowledging we're at war (which Democrats have been saying about us for decades) that is despicable.

These people are pure evil.

[Timber Rattler]

It could well involve the entire Antifa underground. Treat it for what it is, a terrorist organization.

Could very well be.  Here's Bella Ciao re-written with ANTIFA lyrics.  Had no idea that they were now using it as their "anthem."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSpqj3V0s2E

[Hoodat]

A month ago, @mountaineer


‘We are at war’: Democrats reach breaking point over Republican threats in political map arms race

Democrats have long warned that partisan gerrymandering threatens American democracy — but now they’re ready to fight fire with fire, Alex Woodward reports

Tuesday 05 August 2025 14:08 BST

Democrats have spent years issuing warnings over Republican threats to redraw the political maps that could determine the balance of power for years to come. Now, they’re prepared for “war.”

After protracted legal battles to unwind Donald Trump’s executive actions and unsuccessful attempts to derail the president’s agenda in Congress, Democrats appear to have reached a breaking point and are ready to do some map-making of their own, reluctantly preparing to fight fire with fire.

They have repeatedly stressed that the GOP’s gerrymandering imperils American democracy. But Democratic officials across the country are now embracing the idea, reasoning that years-long legal challenges and public pressure over illegal voter suppression are no longer enough to keep up with the GOP’s power trip.

“All’s fair in love and war,” New York Governor Kathy Hochul said Monday as she signaled efforts to draw up new maps in her state “as soon as possible.”

“This is a war. We are at war,” she added. “And that’s why the gloves are off, and I say, ‘Bring it on.’”  .  .  .

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/texas-democrats-gerrymander-redistricting-b2801833.html

[Hoodat]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/vhBVdvSh0r8

[LMAO]

These attempted assassinations and harming and killing each other over political differences has got to  end, or we will fail as a country. It may already be too late

I have relatives that vote Democrat and are very much on the left. But at the end of the day, we’re still family and we go to each other’s Christmas parties, Thanksgiving dinners, summer barbecues. Ect ect

This shooter didn’t care that Charlie had a wife and two young kids.

[Kamaji]

Andy Ngo (who knows Antifa like no one else, considering they've tried to kill him) posted on X:There also is this:

Andy Ngo
@MrAndyNgo
All of these young high-profile shooters and mass shooters in the U.S. are actively on @discord. Some, as minors, were radicalized and groomed on there.
11:53 AM · Sep 12, 2025

Bala
@skorpien
Discord and Reddit are breeding grounds for many cultural and societal issues.
11:58 AM · Sep 12, 2025

That is precisely what RICO is for.  Utah has an act that piggy-backs off of the federal RICO statute, so this could be done under either federal or Utah law, and would allow the conviction of everyone associated with Antifa, regardless of whether or not they had personal knowledge of the plan to assassinate Kirk. 

[Hoodat]

[mystery-ak]

Aggravated murder charge recommended against Charlie Kirk assassination suspect, affidavit says

Utah authorities recommended charging Tyler Robinson, the suspect accused of Charlie Kirk's assassination, with aggravated murder, according to a probable cause affidavit.

The affidavit also recommends charging Robinson with "felony discharge of a firearm -- causing serious bodily injury" and "obstruction of justice -- capital/first degree felony conduct."

It detailed a timeline of the shooting and evidence that was recovered.

"Based on the evidence detailed in this statement, I believe there is probable cause that Tyler Robinson committed the crimes of aggravated murder by shooting Charlie Kirk in a circumstance that put many around him at grave risk of death, felony discharge of a firearm, and obstruction of justice for moving and hiding the rifle believed to be used in the shooting," an officer wrote in the document.

Fox News' Michael Ruiz and Paul Mauro contributed to this report.
Posted by Greg Norman

[DB]

These attempted assassinations and harming and killing each other over political differences has got to  end, or we will fail as a country. It may already be too late

I have relatives that vote Democrat and are very much on the left. But at the end of the day, we’re still family and we go to each other’s Christmas parties, Thanksgiving dinners, summer barbecues. Ect ect

This shooter didn’t care that Charlie had a wife and two young kids.

When they are actively cheering the assassination of Kirk who promoted no violence of any kind and are begging for more killings - a bridge has been crossed that can't easily be uncrossed.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1966534489854668908

[catfish1957]

Could very well be.  Here's Bella Ciao re-written with ANTIFA lyrics.  Had no idea that they were now using it as their "anthem."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSpqj3V0s2E

Chumbawaba?

Perfect band describing an outfit (Antifa) who pisses the night away...... 

All I say it is time to keep knocking them down.   (Even if they keep  getting up) 

[Lando Lincoln]

I wonder if the the Deputy Sheriff father read his son his Miranda rights.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

My heart goes out to him.  This is worse than losing a son.  Every day for the rest of his life, he will be consumed with guilt thinking of how he failed as a father and questioning why he didn't see the warning signs.

would be akin to parents who had a kid commit suicide.

My wife taught suicide prevention for years at the local high school and witnessed the tragedy of it.

Parents at times blame themselves so badly they also get caught up in the failure blame game.

One lady I went to church with, a very likable and smart lady, was so much in grief she snapped and her mind became that of a 2nd grader and never recovered.

[rangerrebew]

Unsettling Discovery: Ammunition Inscribed with Transgender Messages Found at Charlie Kirk Murder Scene
09/12/2025 // Willow Tohi // 100 Views
 


Ammunition with Controversial Messages: Three unused rounds found with the rifle used to murder Charlie Kirk were inscribed with "transgender and anti-fascist" messages.

Political Violence Rising: The shooting highlights a concerning trend of political violence in the U.S., affecting both sides of the political spectrum.

Belief of Suspect's Escape: Authorities believe the suspect was a college-aged individual who fled through campus buildings and escaped into a neighborhood.

Public Figure’s Impact: Charlie Kirk was a prominent political activist who significantly contributed to the Trump administration’s success and helped an entire generation with their critical thinking.
On Wednesday September 1o conservative political activist Charlie Kirk was murdered at Utah Valley University during a public debate. The FBI has recovered a bolt-action rifle, an older model Mauser .30-06 caliber, believed to be the weapon used in the attack. Alongside the rifle, three unused ammunition rounds were found, each inscribed with messages linked to "transgender and anti-fascist" ideologies. This discovery has sparked intense debate and accusations within the political sphere.

https://www.naturalnews.com/2025-09-12-unsettling-discovery-ammunition-inscribed-with-transgender-messages-found-at-charlie-kirk-murder-scene.html

[Idiot]

Don't kill the perpetrator but put him in a supermax cell with an endless loop of Charlie Kirk videos running 24-7 for all of the days of his life.

[cato potatoe]

His family has some nice photos on social media, but appearances can be deceiving.  Some policemen are bad news. 

[240B]

There are screenshots of social media posts from before the shooting, made by at least two other people, all giddy about what's going to happen at Utah Valley on Wednesday. Also, the song someone posted about "Charlie Kirk Dead at 31," which also was done before Wednesday.

You cannot persuade me these kids weren't in on it, and I certainly hope law enforcement drags their butts into custody. What roles did they play in the planning and execution (no pun intended) of the murder?

Suspected Kirk Assassin’s Potential ‘Co-Conspirator’ Revealed

Trending Politics News
By Mark Steffen
September 12, 2025

In the days before he fired a single, deadly bullet over a college crowd, killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk, suspected killer Tyler Robinson was allegedly bragging about his plan in newly unearthed online chats.

Robinson, a 22-year-old college student, was a frequent user of Discord, an online community favored by gamers and internet culture hobbyists. Discovery of the messages was announced by Utah Governor Spencer Cox at a press conference on Friday morning.

Authorities spoke with a college roommate of Robinson who lived with him at Utah State University, where he was attending on scholarship. The student allowed investigators to take photographs of the messages where Robinson allegedly bragged about obtaining a rifle and engraving shell casings like those found at the scene of the crime.

An account named “Tyler” wrote that he was racing to a “drop point, leaving the rifle in a bush.” He also mentioned wrapping the firearm in a towel similar to the way a Mauser .30-06 hunting rifle was discovered on a rooftop adjacent to where Kirk was speaking on Wednesday. It is unclear at this time who brought the rifle to the drop point for Robinson, but investigators are viewing the individual as a potential co-conspirator.

https://trendingpoliticsnews.com/breaking-suspected-kirk-assassins-co-conspirator-revealed-mstef/

[240B]

I am thinking in the back of my brain that someone left the rifle in the woods for Robinson to take. After he completed his mission, he returned the rifle to where he found it.

This means, we cannot be sure who engraved the casing and the rifle with Antifa slogans. If Robinson picked up the rifle, used it, and then returned it, then he is not the person who wrote the graffiti on the weapon.

[GtHawk]

Don't kill the perpetrator but put him in a supermax cell with an endless loop of Charlie Kirk videos running 24-7 for all of the days of his life.

Lord I thought you wanted him to suffer, make it a loop of Harris and Walz.

[Hoodat]

I am thinking in the back of my brain that someone left the rifle in the woods for Robinson to take. After he completed his mission, he returned the rifle to where he found it.

This means, we cannot be sure who engraved the casing and the rifle with Antifa slogans. If Robinson picked up the rifle, used it, and then returned it, then he is not the person who wrote the graffiti on the weapon.

Excellent point.  Maybe someone from Antifa manipulated this whole thing.

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1966532864628916353

[Right_in_Virginia]

I wonder if the the Deputy Sheriff father read his son his Miranda rights.

I wondered if they brought an attorney.

BTW, just heard the family of the perp's getting police protection outside their home.

[Right_in_Virginia]

According to Axelrod, it isn't the assassination of Kirk that is despicable.  It's Conservatives finally acknowledging we're at war (which Democrats have been saying about us for decades) that is despicable.

These people are pure evil.

 

[Hoodat]

[Smokin Joe]

I do engraving with a Dremel. It's pretty easy.

Not everyone has your talents.

[Smokin Joe]

I don’t even know who she is or what movie she’s acted in or what song she ever sang

I never knew she even existed until this thread

FYI: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0848554/