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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #650 on: September 11, 2025, 11:58:55 pm »
The Mouser’s been in my head all day.

Then the pictures drop—and if nothing else, you can tell the guy’s young. That much was obvious. But the “press conference”? Weird. Young guy, old Mouser.

Why did both FBI big shots have to hop a plane to Utah for this? Why the delay, like the whole thing was on pause until Patel and Bongino showed up just to wave around some AI-tuned images? Felt like everybody was told to keep their mouths shut until the brass got there.

And then this: they say there’s a sneaker print. Converse. Chuck Taylors. The classic Navy SEAL shoe. Yeah, those ones.

https://www.military.com/off-duty/why-navy-seals-wear-chuck-taylors-maritime-operations.html

And the Mouser—again. The .30-06. Standard issue back in the day. A sniper’s rifle of choice from the ’60s through the late ’70s. Imported, no less.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/was-a-30-06-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-used-to-assassinate-charlie-kirk-know-all-about-the-powerful-sniper-rifle/articleshow/123835387.cms

I just can’t marry those pieces together. Some guy with a di¢k problem getting a kill shot from 200 yds with a collectible, imported sniper rifle… while wearing Navy SEAL sneakers. Doesn’t pass the smell test. 

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #651 on: September 12, 2025, 12:07:05 am »
There are some very major problems with this case.

The video that they are showing of this person jumping down off the roof. How did he get up on the roof? He didn't jump up onto the roof. Why wouldn't he use the same way that he got up there with a standard full one piece rifle to get down? Why Jump????

This bolt action rifle with the poorly mounted scope does not break down into smaller pieces; it is a standard full one piece rifle. The video of this person jumping down from the roof does not have a standard full length rifle with him as he is jumping from the roof, but we are told that they found the rifle in the woods after he was off of the roof and away from the building.

https://x.com/scrowder/status/1966118431511433267

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ATF and other law-enforcement located an older model imported Mauser .30-06 caliber bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel in a wooded area near the campus.


Someone is smoking us!!!!

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« Reply #652 on: September 12, 2025, 12:11:51 am »
Found myself wondering if his "limp" was from hurting himself dropping 15ft to the ground hanging from his left hand.

Again, limp was going to the event, with a gun stuffed down his pant's leg... no limp after running away. Scope was set way forward, probable because they had to set it up that was (losing eye relief) due to fitting down pants.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #653 on: September 12, 2025, 12:16:41 am »
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We must be smoking the sam s#it!
The Mouser’s been in my head all day.

Then the pictures drop—and if nothing else, you can tell the guy’s young. That much was obvious. But the “press conference”? Weird. Young guy, old Mouser.

Why did both FBI big shots have to hop a plane to Utah for this? Why the delay, like the whole thing was on pause until Patel and Bongino showed up just to wave around some AI-tuned images? Felt like everybody was told to keep their mouths shut until the brass got there.

And then this: they say there’s a sneaker print. Converse. Chuck Taylors. The classic Navy SEAL shoe. Yeah, those ones.

https://www.military.com/off-duty/why-navy-seals-wear-chuck-taylors-maritime-operations.html

And the Mouser—again. The .30-06. Standard issue back in the day. A sniper’s rifle of choice from the ’60s through the late ’70s. Imported, no less.

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/was-a-30-06-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-used-to-assassinate-charlie-kirk-know-all-about-the-powerful-sniper-rifle/articleshow/123835387.cms

I just can’t marry those pieces together. Some guy with a di¢k problem getting a kill shot from 200 yds with a collectible, imported sniper rifle… while wearing Navy SEAL sneakers. Doesn’t pass the smell test. 

Guys at AR-15 think it would break down, not sure he did, but they said two bolt and screwdriver... some say a screwdriver was found on the roof...

Again too early and not enough leaks...

I don't have a Mauser gun (brother does)... I have shot it but never tinkered with it.
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« Reply #654 on: September 12, 2025, 12:23:41 am »
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #655 on: September 12, 2025, 12:24:29 am »
P.S. No less a worrisome a doubt has spent equal time blowing around the windmills of my mind.

Two “amateurs” scoring two head shots (one but for the Grace of God not a kill shot) on the two most prominent leaders of what is known as MAGA inside a year.

“They” (whom ever you believe that to be) killed Charlie because he was effectively destroying their future by disassembling the old “liberal when young, conservative when old” truism via advancing that conversion by decades. A growing number of young people believing in American values, Judeo-Christian values is a frightening thing to they whose hold on power is highly dependent on the dumbasseries of youth.

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #656 on: September 12, 2025, 12:38:26 am »
Cash Patel flew across the country, standing there at the briefing, did not say a word.

I have said it before, I will say it again, Patel is an empty suit.

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Oh, I wouldn't say that. The suit isn't completely empty, it has a lot of hot air in it.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #657 on: September 12, 2025, 01:07:36 am »



Erika Kirk and Usha Vance---





Charlie Kirk's two young children and his parents were also on the plane.

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« Reply #658 on: September 12, 2025, 01:10:38 am »
Guys at AR-15 think it would break down, not sure he did, but they said two bolt and screwdriver... some say a screwdriver was found on the roof...

Again too early and not enough leaks...

I don't have a Mauser gun (brother does)... I have shot it but never tinkered with it.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/was-a-30-06-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-used-to-assassinate-charlie-kirk-know-all-about-the-powerful-sniper-rifle/articleshow/123835387.cms?from=mdr

That picture of that bolt action rifle is not disassembled. If that rifle was found disassembled to get it some how off the roof it would not have been reassembled as a piece of evidence. That would be tampered with evidence and not admissible as evidence again in that case.

The video of this person jumping down from the roof does not have a standard full length rifle with him as he is jumping from the roof.


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« Reply #659 on: September 12, 2025, 01:37:25 am »
Fox just reported that Bill Ackman is upping the reward to $1M to catch the killer. Another raised it 25k...

Total reward 1,125,000.oo
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« Reply #660 on: September 12, 2025, 01:40:36 am »
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/was-a-30-06-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-used-to-assassinate-charlie-kirk-know-all-about-the-powerful-sniper-rifle/articleshow/123835387.cms?from=mdr

That picture of that bolt action rifle is not disassembled. If that rifle was found disassembled to get it some how off the roof it would not have been reassembled as a piece of evidence. That would be tampered with evidence and not admissible as evidence again in that case.

The video of this person jumping down from the roof does not have a standard full length rifle with him as he is jumping from the roof.


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That video of him jumping from the roof at 250 ft away... I think it does show a long gun without the barrel showing up good. When he hits the ground he fumbles with keeping the gun covered with a towel...

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #661 on: September 12, 2025, 02:53:42 am »
Yeah... 200yds is well inside a 30.06 ability, though on the long side. But open sights? Shoot, at 200yds the dot would cover his whole upper body... He had to be guessing at center mass, and held a bit high.
If he aimed center of mass on a downhill shot, the shot would hit high, regardless of iron sights or a scope, if the rifle had been zeroed on level targets. Whether the target is fully covered depends on the front sight or the scope reticle.
 
As for Mauser actions, so many have been sporterized and rebarreled it isn't funny. While not a 98K, it's still a Mauser.
A friend had an Argentine that had been rechambered in .308 and it was fully capable of taking whitetail with iron sights at 200 yards. (He blew the gun up, but that's another story. Suffice it to say don't reload with unknown powder.)
I have a Mauser action that was reworked with an air gauged barrel (still has the eagle proof on the action) and it's a tack driver. 
Much depends on the shooter, too.

But people have already called out questions about the way the scope is mounted on the rifle pictured as the one recovered. It is way too far back (no eye relief), and the rings are up against the turret/front part of the scope.

Frankly, I think this is a plant, a red herring.

 
I think we aren't just dealing with the Left, but a global effort to get the US in such internal chaos (CWII?) that we can't intervene elsewhere. Cui bono? Russia, China, Iran, and others.

(As for the trannies, those not arm-in-arm with them already have such distrust of that crowd; we'd cross the street to not share the same sidewalk and keep an eye on them every step of the way. This sort of crap gains them no friends, no sympathy, and certainly no ground in any 'fight' they are fighting.)

Other, Global forces have much to gain, but the useful idiots chanting about being repressed or randomly attacking an killing those they have been trained from thee cradle to believe are their mortal enemies are only creating mortal enmity, and if that dam breaks, they will be washed away by the enemies they, themselves, have created.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #662 on: September 12, 2025, 03:00:26 am »
Congress hasn't done anything to deserve that honor.
Well said.
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« Reply #663 on: September 12, 2025, 03:15:07 am »
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/us/was-a-30-06-mauser-bolt-action-rifle-used-to-assassinate-charlie-kirk-know-all-about-the-powerful-sniper-rifle/articleshow/123835387.cms?from=mdr

That picture of that bolt action rifle is not disassembled. If that rifle was found disassembled to get it some how off the roof it would not have been reassembled as a piece of evidence. That would be tampered with evidence and not admissible as evidence again in that case.

The video of this person jumping down from the roof does not have a standard full length rifle with him as he is jumping from the roof.


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The ATF 'reassembled' every rifle found in the ashes of Mt. Carmel in Waco, and even made sure many of them were full auto capable, even though accounts were that they never had been?

While the barreled action could be removed from the stock, that would mean there was no need to have the scope mounted so far to the rear. Doing so, if the barrel is a free-floater and not bedded in the stock, would nave no effect on accuracy, because the scope is mounted to the action. The stock is just a handle.

When ballistics come back, if the bullet that hit Charlie can be compared, I would bet this is not a match.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #664 on: September 12, 2025, 03:33:15 am »
But people have already called out questions about the way the scope is mounted on the rifle pictured as the one recovered. It is way too far back (no eye relief), and the rings are up against the turret/front part of the scope.


Scope had to be back to help him do his pants/backpack/shirt stuffing to carry...

I am fairly confident the scope rode his beltline.... and (the butt) would of rode too high with scope in a better position.

Anyway... that is my explanation... He probable got bopped a few times practicing for the shot.
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« Reply #665 on: September 12, 2025, 07:45:42 am »
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Yesterday, a shooter took aim at Charlie Kirk during his speech at Utah Valley University. The weapon: an older Mauser bolt-action rifle in .30-06 Springfield, fired from the Losee Center rooftop. Distance: 131–200 yards, per mapping and video evidence.

The .30-06 is an old, trusted, flat-shooting round. From a 22-inch barrel, a 165-grain bullet at 2,700 fps drops ~2.7 inches at 131 yards, ~4.3 inches at 200. Used in WW2 and Korea sniper rifles, it’s deadly accurate at these ranges.

Charlie was fatally hit in the neck. A sniper’s analysis backs up what I have been saying that the shooter aimed for the head but didn’t account for that drop. It’s a shot any novice hunter could make, but a pro adjusts for drop. This was an amateur with a dark motive not some super spy.

The manhunt’s on.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #666 on: September 12, 2025, 08:15:38 am »
 Not watching, but on X, it is being reported that Trump (ON Fox and Friends) is saying with "high degree of certainty" that Kirk's killer has been apprehended.


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« Reply #668 on: September 12, 2025, 08:32:41 am »
P.S. No less a worrisome a doubt has spent equal time blowing around the windmills of my mind.

Two “amateurs” scoring two head shots (one but for the Grace of God not a kill shot) on the two most prominent leaders of what is known as MAGA inside a year.

“They” (whom ever you believe that to be) killed Charlie because he was effectively destroying their future by disassembling the old “liberal when young, conservative when old” truism via advancing that conversion by decades. A growing number of young people believing in American values, Judeo-Christian values is a frightening thing to they whose hold on power is highly dependent on the dumbasseries of youth.

Trump is not safe.

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« Reply #669 on: September 12, 2025, 08:33:37 am »
His father reportedly turned him in.
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« Reply #670 on: September 12, 2025, 08:38:17 am »
President Trump reveals. "I think, with a high degree of certainty, we HAVE HIM, in custody. Everyone did a great job."

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1966473560374874223
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« Reply #671 on: September 12, 2025, 08:40:35 am »
His father reportedly turned him in.

His father and pastor, I’m told.
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« Reply #672 on: September 12, 2025, 08:43:17 am »
I thought he might be found behind someone’s rose bushes, dead of a self-inflicted gunshot. This is better.
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« Reply #673 on: September 12, 2025, 08:43:29 am »
Yeah, I just saw a tweet where someone said a minister also was involved. Well, thank God, no matter who is responsible!
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« Reply #674 on: September 12, 2025, 08:44:05 am »
His father reportedly turned him in.

Oh wow....
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« Reply #675 on: September 12, 2025, 08:46:34 am »
Oh wow....
Well, I heard earlier this morning that the reward $$$ was increased to $1M.             
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« Reply #676 on: September 12, 2025, 08:47:08 am »
Kind of explains that nothing-burger presser. They believed they’d have him in custody by then. Maybe.
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« Reply #677 on: September 12, 2025, 08:49:58 am »
Well, I heard earlier this morning that the reward $$$ was increased to $1M.           

With the private offerings, I heard $1.125 million. Maybe the father will donate it to Charlie’s family.
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« Reply #678 on: September 12, 2025, 08:50:46 am »
IF the guy they have is in fact the actual shooter they have a LOT of holes to fill if you ask me. Some of which have already been raised on this thread.
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« Reply #679 on: September 12, 2025, 08:51:01 am »
Actress Amber Tamblyn Mocks the Fact that Charlie Kirk’s Daughter Witnessed His Gory Assassination

Actress Amber Tamblyn suggested that the assassination of Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk was a “public execution” and mocked the fact that Kirk’s daughter witnessed his horrific and gruesome murder.

“Wish granted,” Tamblyn wrote in a Thursday BlueSky post, sharing a February 24, 2024 Newsweek article, headlined, “Trump Ally Charlie Kirk Suggests Children Should Watch Public Executions.”

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« Reply #680 on: September 12, 2025, 08:58:16 am »
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« Reply #681 on: September 12, 2025, 09:01:09 am »
Shooter (allegedly) identified as 22-year-old Utah local, Tyler Robinson.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #682 on: September 12, 2025, 09:03:00 am »
Fed that image into my AI bank to try and clean it up. Not attesting for facial features, but the t-shirt came clear.



The shirt has since been found on line and there is no eagle, as the original image shows a splotch of black over the flag.
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« Reply #683 on: September 12, 2025, 09:03:55 am »
Shooter identified as 22-year-old Utah local, Tyler Robinson.

Alleged shooter.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #684 on: September 12, 2025, 09:05:08 am »
This kind of rhetoric is idiotic...what would a civil war with the "left" look like exactly?

Very bloody.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #685 on: September 12, 2025, 09:06:59 am »
New video of the shooter making his escape off the roof...it appears to be the same guy, with the black sweatshirt and backpack in the earlier photos.  The rifle appears to be wrapped in a black or dark-colored towel.  He hurt his leg when he jumped off the roof, hence the limp in the previous video.


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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #686 on: September 12, 2025, 09:08:46 am »
Wearing a Disabled Veterans of America distributed shirt:

His shirt has a black splotch vertical and horizontal cutting the flag - its not an eagle and its not patriotic. Actual shirt found by others online.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #687 on: September 12, 2025, 09:12:32 am »
He may have good shooting skills, but he's not a professional assassin.

A real pro would've worn gloves the whole way, and covered his ears (one of the easy identifiers).

Prediction: somebody will recognize his scrawny frame, and this kid will be goin' down soon ...

Or else he's a decoy now long gone from Utah and maybe the country, possibility shot dead by whoever paid him or one of the other people who helped set this up.
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« Reply #688 on: September 12, 2025, 09:13:56 am »
New video of the shooter making his escape off the roof...it appears to be the same guy, with the black sweatshirt and backpack in the earlier photos.  The rifle appears to be wrapped in a black or dark-colored towel.  He hurt his leg when he jumped off the roof, hence the limp in the previous video.


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Your link is broken @Timber Rattler . I was going to ask him to explain how the shooter got up there in the first place dragging a rifle.
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #689 on: September 12, 2025, 09:15:19 am »
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/8t9umujxa

Suspect in Charlie Kirk murder - Tyler Robinson. Report: He confessed to his father who turned him in
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« Reply #690 on: September 12, 2025, 09:15:22 am »

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1966022613546971405
Maybe a friend with the blond long haired white guy that jumped up and down cheering after the shot.
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« Reply #691 on: September 12, 2025, 09:16:14 am »
Ok, but what would it look like? People are going to vote how they're going to vote no?

Yes people will be voting with all the lead they have. Don't be obtuse.
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« Reply #692 on: September 12, 2025, 09:17:00 am »
BREAKING NEWS LIVE ON TV RIGHT NOW

Charlie's assassin is in custody! Live news conference getting ready to start on many channels!
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« Reply #693 on: September 12, 2025, 09:19:01 am »
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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #694 on: September 12, 2025, 09:19:52 am »
More up-close face crop... Not sure if this has been sharpened (altered)...



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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #695 on: September 12, 2025, 09:20:36 am »
That's two that I know of

Tucker Carlson’s ALP Donates $1 Million To Kirk Family, Launches Donation Site

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #696 on: September 12, 2025, 09:25:24 am »
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Yesterday, a shooter took aim at Charlie Kirk during his speech at Utah Valley University. The weapon: an older Mauser bolt-action rifle in .30-06 Springfield, fired from the Losee Center rooftop. Distance: 131–200 yards, per mapping and video evidence.

The .30-06 is an old, trusted, flat-shooting round. From a 22-inch barrel, a 165-grain bullet at 2,700 fps drops ~2.7 inches at 131 yards, ~4.3 inches at 200. Used in WW2 and Korea sniper rifles, it’s deadly accurate at these ranges.

Charlie was fatally hit in the neck. A sniper’s analysis backs up what I have been saying that the shooter aimed for the head but didn’t account for that drop. It’s a shot any novice hunter could make, but a pro adjusts for drop. This was an amateur with a dark motive not some super spy.

The manhunt’s on.
It is a downhill shot, so the bullet would strike high to the point of aim if the rifle was zeroed on a level range.The shooter was likely aiming center of mass, if accounts that the bullet deflected off a vest are true.
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If the FBI gave him the information, there is no credibility to their report.


The big question is; which democrat will travel to have margarita's with this killer?

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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #698 on: September 12, 2025, 09:26:55 am »
Prowler wearing lab coat arrested after sneaking into Charlie Kirk assassination crime scene to snap selfie, photos: report



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Re: Charlie Kirk shot
« Reply #699 on: September 12, 2025, 09:28:23 am »
Patel and Dep Director enroute to Utah and will do a presser there this evening..

The main reason they went there is they were not getting any more images from the local FBI ...
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