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What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« on: August 27, 2025, 09:59:29 am »
What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza

https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/08/27/what-counts-as-a-journalist-in-gaza-n3806183

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The Free Press published an investigation into the "starving children" being featured in media stories around the world, and found that the photographs supposedly showing formerly healthy children who are now malnourished are all, essentially, fake. Not that the photos are AI or anything like that, although there is plenty of that from the war, but rather each of the children is suffering from some genetic disease or another, and many had been medically evacuated by Israel to save them.
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Just as Pravda Media doesn't tell you the story behind the pictures they show you, they fail to inform you that the "journalists" based in Gaza are either Hamas operatives or Hamas allies. I have written many times about this, and will do so in the future. Because we will be bombarded by stories about Israel targeting journalists in the war, without being told that those "journalists" are often Hamas fighters as well.
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One does not get immunity by putting on a Press vest or a doctor's white coat, although you wouldn't know that if you only watched the news.

Of all the people who ought to be upset about Hamas propaganda and its appropriation of the label "journalist," it should be the media itself. It puts every real journalist at risk.

But...the Pravda Media EMPLOYS many of these people who put in "PRESS" vests and then take them off to fight. They depend on them to provide the propaganda that must be printed to make money.

MSM - US and international - mostly know what they are employing. They just hate Israel and Jooooos so much they willingly print/broadcast what they know are lies.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2025, 10:17:59 am »
The Israelis need to allow independent foreign journalists into Gaza.  When access is restricted, people naturally start to wonder what is being concealed.  The images coming from the palestinian journalists are unlikely to be dismissed, as they are the only information we have. 

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2025, 11:30:09 am »
The Israelis need to allow independent foreign journalists into Gaza.  When access is restricted, people naturally start to wonder what is being concealed.  The images coming from the palestinian journalists are unlikely to be dismissed, as they are the only information we have.

We must take the Palestine Heath Ministries unbiased word as gospel.  Or RiV's, when in doubt.
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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2025, 12:07:06 pm »
The Israelis need to allow independent foreign journalists into Gaza.  When access is restricted, people naturally start to wonder what is being concealed.  The images coming from the palestinian journalists are unlikely to be dismissed, as they are the only information we have.
Problem is, if you allow that then sooner or later one of them is going to get killed. When that happens, the outcry will be over the top.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2025, 12:17:22 pm »


These are all journalists in the Gaza press corps.
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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2025, 12:22:58 pm »
We must take the Palestine Heath Ministries unbiased word as gospel.  Or RiV's, when in doubt.

Why take anyone's word as gospel when you can use all the information and make an informed decision for yourself, by yourself?

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« Reply #6 on: August 28, 2025, 12:00:52 pm »
Why take anyone's word as gospel when you can use all the information and make an informed decision for yourself, by yourself?
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #7 on: August 28, 2025, 12:20:40 pm »
In as much as propaganda is a means of waging war and the only "journalists" in Gaza are Hamas propagandists, I think there's an argument to be made that they are legitimate military targets. 
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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2025, 12:38:12 pm »
Pssst @Right_in_Virginia I think @Wingnut was being sarcastic.

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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #9 on: August 28, 2025, 12:41:42 pm »
In as much as propaganda is a means of waging war and the only "journalists" in Gaza are Hamas propagandists, I think there's an argument to be made that they are legitimate military targets.

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« Reply #10 on: August 28, 2025, 01:51:47 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: August 28, 2025, 02:05:14 pm »
Anyone who hates Israel?
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« Reply #12 on: August 28, 2025, 02:06:36 pm »
Problem is, if you allow that then sooner or later one of them is going to get killed. When that happens, the outcry will be over the top.

It won't be any worse than the headlines they are getting now.  Whoever is running the Israeli PR campaign needs to be fired and replaced.  Fifty percent of American voters think Israel is committing genocide.  https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3929 

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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #13 on: August 28, 2025, 02:31:24 pm »
I meant to post the story of the fake "starvation" here at TBR days ago... But didn't want to start a new thread and searched for one of the RiV threads I wanted to post it on... and couldn't find it offhand and then got distracted and gave up.

It was interesting how the person reporting on the fake-starvation-stories first gained a clue about it.... They noticed some of the pictures of starving kids were posted against the backdrop of other babies in the household that were obviously NOT starving. The real story reporter said it was a shame they were having to report the real story because they really were not investigative reporters, just a person wanting the truth.

The real reporter reported/investigated how the Palestinian fake reporters dug out old stories of children and recycled them as new. The Real Reporter found where the fake reporters had previously photoed the children who had problems like mentioned in this story (other health issues). The Real Reporter dug and dug until they uncovered the naked truth, unlike the MSM that will regurgitate any story they can get about the "evil Israel".

I just call it Pallywood (the fake news propaganda). It is geared by people that have no problem with lying to try to cover up their own hatred of Israel with influencing Westerners that don't look behind the curtain...

If Western media did any research on the stories handed to them, these fake stories would dwindle and the west would stop sending as much money to support terrorists.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #14 on: August 28, 2025, 03:53:02 pm »

Fifty percent of American voters think Israel is committing genocide.  https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3929
Fifty percent of Americans cannot spell 'genocide' and have absolutely no idea what the word genocide means or what it is. The same can be said of the word fascist. Less than 1 of 10 Americans could come up with even a close definition of what fascism is and what it entails, even though they use the word all the time every day.
Fascism = "something bad, whatever I disagree with".
Nazi = "a bad person".
Genocide = "some people somewhere are being killed in a war".

According to Hamas propaganda, every Muslim killed in Gaza is a journalist, or women and children, or a doctor/EMT, or elderly old people in a home, etc. According to Hamas, no terroristic murderer or Islamic fighter has ever been killed in Gaza. All the deaths are journalists and women and children. And the Western Press eats the propaganda up and disseminates it because it aligns with their antisemitic world view.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #15 on: August 28, 2025, 06:21:56 pm »
I meant to post the story of the fake "starvation" here at TBR days ago... But didn't want to start a new thread and searched for one of the RiV threads I wanted to post it on... and couldn't find it offhand and then got distracted and gave up.

It was interesting how the person reporting on the fake-starvation-stories first gained a clue about it.... They noticed some of the pictures of starving kids were posted against the backdrop of other babies in the household that were obviously NOT starving. The real story reporter said it was a shame they were having to report the real story because they really were not investigative reporters, just a person wanting the truth.

The real reporter reported/investigated how the Palestinian fake reporters dug out old stories of children and recycled them as new. The Real Reporter found where the fake reporters had previously photoed the children who had problems like mentioned in this story (other health issues). The Real Reporter dug and dug until they uncovered the naked truth, unlike the MSM that will regurgitate any story they can get about the "evil Israel".

I just call it Pallywood (the fake news propaganda). It is geared by people that have no problem with lying to try to cover up their own hatred of Israel with influencing Westerners that don't look behind the curtain...

If Western media did any research on the stories handed to them, these fake stories would dwindle and the west would stop sending as much money to support terrorists.

I appreciate this post!  We know the stories post by the Hamas-hired "journalists" are pure propaganda, and it's instructive who swallows each of them whole. 
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« Reply #16 on: August 28, 2025, 06:39:19 pm »
I appreciate this post!  We know the stories post by the Hamas-hired "journalists" are pure propaganda, and it's instructive who swallows each of them whole.

Has anyone reminded folks here recently that Hamas killers are all civilians because they are not members of any nation's military? Thus, on top of the fictional numbers from Hamas "health" officials, the "real" numbers include many/mostly Hamas killers.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #17 on: August 28, 2025, 07:07:48 pm »
Fifty percent of Americans cannot spell 'genocide' and have absolutely no idea what the word genocide means or what it is. The same can be said of the word fascist. Less than 1 of 10 Americans could come up with even a close definition of what fascism is and what it entails, even though they use the word all the time every day.
Fascism = "something bad, whatever I disagree with".
Nazi = "a bad person".
Genocide = "some people somewhere are being killed in a war".

According to Hamas propaganda, every Muslim killed in Gaza is a journalist, or women and children, or a doctor/EMT, or elderly old people in a home, etc. According to Hamas, no terroristic murderer or Islamic fighter has ever been killed in Gaza. All the deaths are journalists and women and children. And the Western Press eats the propaganda up and disseminates it because it aligns with their antisemitic world view.



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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #18 on: August 28, 2025, 07:08:24 pm »
Has anyone reminded folks here recently that Hamas killers are all civilians because they are not members of any nation's military? Thus, on top of the fictional numbers from Hamas "health" officials, the "real" numbers include many/mostly Hamas killers.

Briefers point that out all the time.  It's almost comical.  But haters gotta hate.
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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #19 on: August 28, 2025, 07:13:10 pm »
Leave me out of this.

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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #20 on: August 28, 2025, 07:26:48 pm »
According to Hamas propaganda, every Muslim killed in Gaza is a journalist, or women and children, or a doctor/EMT, or elderly old people in a home, etc. According to Hamas, no terroristic murderer or Islamic fighter has ever been killed in Gaza. All the deaths are journalists and women and children.

And the Western Press eats the propaganda up and disseminates it because it aligns with their antisemitic world view.


I don't think the Western press disseminates the information coming out of Gaza because it "aligns with their antisemitic world view" @240B --- I think they publish the information because they're desperate for reports from the territory.  The two year Israeli blockade on the Western press has simply reached the point of diminishing returns.

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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2025, 03:18:04 am »
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2025, 05:14:16 am »
Fifty percent of Americans cannot spell 'genocide' and have absolutely no idea what the word genocide means or what it is. The same can be said of the word fascist. Less than 1 of 10 Americans could come up with even a close definition of what fascism is and what it entails, even though they use the word all the time every day.
Fascism = "something bad, whatever I disagree with".
Nazi = "a bad person".
Genocide = "some people somewhere are being killed in a war".

According to Hamas propaganda, every Muslim killed in Gaza is a journalist, or women and children, or a doctor/EMT, or elderly old people in a home, etc. According to Hamas, no terroristic murderer or Islamic fighter has ever been killed in Gaza. All the deaths are journalists and women and children. And the Western Press eats the propaganda up and disseminates it because it aligns with their antisemitic world view.

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Re: What Counts As a 'Journalist' in Gaza
« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2025, 10:53:56 am »
I meant to post the story of the fake "starvation" here at TBR days ago... But didn't want to start a new thread and searched for one of the RiV threads I wanted to post it on... and couldn't find it offhand and then got distracted and gave up.

If Western media did any research on the stories handed to them, these fake stories would dwindle...

If Israel would lift their blockade on the international press, Western media might actually be able to research the stories handed to them @Sighlass .... or at least question the validity of those stories by reporting the differences they, themselves, have witnessed.