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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #150 on: August 16, 2025, 02:11:57 pm »
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‼️ Putin Demands Capitulation, Not a Ceasefire

Trump told Zelensky and NATO leaders that the Kremlin is not going to agree to a ceasefire. Putin is demanding a “comprehensive agreement to end the war.”

And what does Trump himself think? According to an Axios correspondent, the U.S. president said: “I think a quick peace agreement is better than a ceasefire.”



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« Reply #151 on: August 16, 2025, 02:13:40 pm »
Where is Henry Kissinger when you need him?  Trump needs to be playing 'Bad Cop' here, not 'kiss-ass' cop.
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« Reply #152 on: August 16, 2025, 02:14:34 pm »
Where's the evidence Trump kissed Putin's ass?
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« Reply #153 on: August 16, 2025, 02:17:55 pm »
I really hope this is the luncheon that got cancelled.  No one should be awarded a trophy for genocide.




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« Reply #154 on: August 16, 2025, 02:19:09 pm »
Where's the evidence Trump kissed Putin's ass?

He gave everything that Putin sought from this visit.  Sanctions put off.  Equal footing on the world stage.  And no cease fire.
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« Reply #156 on: August 16, 2025, 02:23:42 pm »
He gave everything that Putin sought from this visit.  Sanctions put off.  Equal footing on the world stage.  And no cease fire.
These were negotiations, not ass-kissing.

 Yes, I wish the parties to this war could reach agreement and stop fighting altogether, but Trump can't 1) force them to agree nor 2) agree to certain conditions on their behalf.
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« Reply #157 on: August 16, 2025, 02:32:04 pm »
These were negotiations, not ass-kissing.

 Yes, I wish the parties to this war could reach agreement and stop fighting altogether, but Trump can't 1) force them to agree nor 2) agree to certain conditions on their behalf.

Fair enough.  'Ass-kissing was harsh.  But as for reaching an agreement, Putin has been consistent.  He doesn't seek peace.  And he has made no secret of that.  Trump had nothing to gain from this, while Putin had everything to gain.  And gain he did.

Trump would have been better off forgoing this summit and sticking to his guns.  Economics is the key.  And as long as Russia can count on American technology in their weapons programs and buyers paying US dollars for Russian oil, this war will continue.  Trump has the tools to end it.  Why isn't he using them?
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« Reply #158 on: August 16, 2025, 02:51:33 pm »
Ooops. Even CNN didn't see ass-kissing.
CNN had a body language expert on to analyze President Trump's interaction with Putin and he had nothing but good things to say - "He's in the authority position. ..."


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« Reply #159 on: August 16, 2025, 02:53:31 pm »
Where's the evidence Trump kissed Putin's ass?

Eric Swalwell said so.
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« Reply #160 on: August 16, 2025, 03:25:15 pm »
Eric Swalwell said so.

Eric Swalwell is a douchenozzle.
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« Reply #161 on: August 16, 2025, 03:27:02 pm »
Ooops. Even CNN didn't see ass-kissing.
CNN had a body language expert on to analyze President Trump's interaction with Putin and he had nothing but good things to say - "He's in the authority position. ..."

So, why isn't he using that authority?  Trump can end this war within a couple of months.  Why doesn't he?

I'm not hating on Trump here.  I just don't understand why he keeps throwing Putin a life line.
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« Reply #162 on: August 16, 2025, 03:30:40 pm »
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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #166 on: August 16, 2025, 04:47:46 pm »
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« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2025, 05:01:11 pm »
Please, Mr. President, waste no more time or treasure on these mouth breathing inbreds.

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Standard/UK, Aug 16, 2025

Sir Keir Starmer will speak to western allies on Sunday ahead of Volodymyr Zelensky’s White House meeting with Donald Trump.

The Prime Minister, France’s Emmanuel Macron and Germany’s Friedrich Merz will host the meeting of the coalition of the willing on Sunday afternoon.

The coalition, made up of 30-plus nations, is prepared to deter Russian aggression by putting troops on the ground in Ukraine once the war is over.

The meeting, which is expected to take place at approximately 2pm UK time, comes on the heels of US President Mr Trump’s summit in Alaska with his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.


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« Reply #170 on: August 16, 2025, 05:11:37 pm »


Wouldn't it be funny if Z showed up in one like that, or a nice powder blue number!
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« Reply #171 on: August 16, 2025, 05:40:23 pm »
I have no confidence that Putin is will (at this time) to make concessions for peace. He seems to be acting like a child demanding everything and giving nothing. (however, this is a fairly standard negotiating tactic in any deal)

I see all the smoke and fury, all the recriminations and accusations, insults and chatter ...
But me ... all I see is positive steps in the right direction. At least there is now 'talk', which we did not have before.

For all its faults and disfunction, I see progress. This is progress. No blinding light with an instant fix. Progress is a slow trudge. It is a stumbling toward the goal until you eventually make it to where you want to be.
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« Reply #172 on: August 16, 2025, 06:06:29 pm »
These were negotiations, not ass-kissing.

 Yes, I wish the parties to this war could reach agreement and stop fighting altogether, but Trump can't 1) force them to agree nor 2) agree to certain conditions on their behalf.

Imagine you're getting robbed. The robber already killed some of your family. Then the police show up not to stop the robber but to insist that you negotiate with the robber.
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« Reply #173 on: August 16, 2025, 06:09:30 pm »
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EXCLUSIVE: First Lady Melania Trump wrote a "peace letter" to Russian President Vladimir Putin telling him "it is time" to protect children and future generations around the globe, Fox News Digital has learned.

Fox News Digital exclusively obtained the "peace letter" the first lady penned to Putin, which President Trump hand-delivered to the Russian leader before their summit in Alaska, Fox News Digital has learned.

Immediately upon receiving the letter, Putin read it as the American and Russian delegations looked on.

"Dear President Putin," the first lady’s letter begins. "Every child shares the same quiet dreams in their heart, whether born randomly into a nation’s rustic countryside or a magnificent city-center. They dream of love, possibility, and safety from danger."

As parents, it is our duty to nurture the next generation’s hope," the letter continued. "As leaders, the responsibility to sustain our children extends beyond the comfort of a few."

"Undeniably, we must strive to paint a dignity-filled world for all—so that every soul may wake to peace, and so that the future itself is perfectly guarded," read the letter. "A simple yet profound concept, Mr. Putin, as I am sure you agree, is that each generation’s descendants begin their lives with a purity—an innocence which stands above geography, government, and ideology."

The first lady continued that "in today’s world, some children are forced to carry a quiet laughter, untouched by the darkness around them—a silent defiance against the forces that can potentially claim their future."

"Mr. Putin, you can singlehandedly restore their melodic laughter," the first lady wrote. "In protecting the innocence of these children, you will do more than serve Russia alone—you serve humanity itself."

"Such a bold idea transcends all human division, and you, Mr. Putin, are fit to implement this vision with a stroke of the pen today," she wrote. "It is time."

Mrs. Trump's "peace letter" was written ahead of her husband's historic meeting with Putin in Anchorage, Alaska, Friday. The high-stakes meeting was the first U.S.-Russia summit since June 2021, which was under former President Joe Biden’s administration and only eight months before Putin invaded Ukraine.


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« Reply #174 on: August 16, 2025, 06:09:41 pm »

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« Reply #175 on: August 16, 2025, 06:25:31 pm »
Imagine you're getting robbed. The robber already killed some of your family. Then the police show up not to stop the robber but to insist that you negotiate with the robber.
If the robber is holding a gun to the head of my children, I would probably hear out what he has to say.
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« Reply #176 on: August 16, 2025, 06:28:23 pm »
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Donald flew to Alaska to meet me. Now he's flying back to DC to pass my offer to Zelensky.

I have made the President of the United States my errand boy.

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« Reply #178 on: August 16, 2025, 06:35:16 pm »
Oh goody, Rump's fashion police are springing into action again! Just what we were all waiting for!

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« Reply #180 on: August 16, 2025, 06:40:14 pm »
Please, explain to me why you hate this man @Weird Tolkienish Figure   Could he remind you of an unrequited love?

I don't hate him but WGAS if Zelensky wears a sweater or not? Pretending it's some big offense is an opinion worth mocking in my opinion.

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« Reply #182 on: August 16, 2025, 06:58:03 pm »
If the robber is holding a gun to the head of my children, I would probably hear out what he has to say.

I'd take the shot.
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« Reply #183 on: August 16, 2025, 06:58:18 pm »
I don't hate him but WGAS if Zelensky wears a sweater or not? Pretending it's some big offense is an opinion worth mocking in my opinion.

Yes, you hate him.

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« Reply #184 on: August 16, 2025, 07:00:54 pm »
Yes, you hate him.

 :shrug: That's your opinion.

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« Reply #185 on: August 16, 2025, 07:15:09 pm »
Trump would have been better off forgoing this summit and sticking to his guns.  Economics is the key.  And as long as Russia can count on American technology in their weapons programs and buyers paying US dollars for Russian oil, this war will continue.  Trump has the tools to end it.  Why isn't he using them?

Trump would be better off looking at Ukraine with a “not my problem” attitude, selling tons of weapons to the EU for them to supply Zelensky with, and dealing with whatever is going on here, but the man seems to really hate the idea of people dying by the thousands over this sort of shit, so he gets involved.

I don’t know what happened in that meeting, but I do know that many times listening, not talking, is the best thing one can do to secure a desirable outcome. That quiet, less talkative Trump that walked out yesterday seemed (to me) as one weighing all that he had both heard and gleamed during the meeting; quite possibly already preparing how to present Putin’s terms to Z and the EU.

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« Reply #186 on: August 16, 2025, 07:21:40 pm »
I don't hate him but WGAS if Zelensky wears a sweater or not? Pretending it's some big offense is an opinion worth mocking in my opinion.

When you come to ask for billions more, after having received billions already, show respect to the mores and protocols of the culture, the nation and person whose $ you need to secure in order to survive.

If that’s too much for you to do, go find the $ elsewhere.

I don’t see the expectation of a display of respect between people at their level to be deserving of mockery.
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« Reply #187 on: August 16, 2025, 07:28:54 pm »
I don’t see the expectation of a display of respect between people at their level

Great point, Luis ... people who show up to the White House should show some respect and dress properly!

Take this disrespectful slob, for example ... always wears sneakers, a black t-shirt and a freaking ball cap to the WH ... how did he ever get let in??

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 Schumer to Trump: No Nobel Peace Prize for ‘selling out Ukraine’
by Steff Danielle Thomas - 08/16/25 1:46 PM ET

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.) tore into President Trump early Saturday after his high-stakes meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Alaska ended without a deal, accusing the president of “selling out” Ukraine.

“Looks like once again Trump is selling out Ukraine and bowing down to dictator Putin,” he wrote on social media platform X. “No Nobel Peace Prize for that.”

His critique comes days after former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton quipped that she would nominate Trump for the coveted prize if he successfully squeezed a ceasefire agreement out of the Russian leader.

Trump and Putin met at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage, Alaska on Friday for a roughly three-hour discussion. While details of the conversation have not been released, the president touted the meeting as “productive” and signaled that while progress was made, a deal was not yet on the table.

“We didn’t get there, but we have a good chance,” he told reporters following the summit, but did not take questions. The president later briefed NATO and European leaders — who responded by doubling down on their support for Ukraine — on the meeting.

Schumer, in separate comments late Friday, accused Trump of rolling out the red carpet for Putin, who he called an “authoritarian thug.”

“Instead of standing with Ukraine and our allies, Trump stood shoulder to shoulder with an autocrat that has terrorized the Ukrainian people and the globe for years,” he wrote on X. “While we wait for critical details of what was discussed — on first take it appears Trump handed Putin legitimacy, a global stage, zero accountability, and got nothing in return.”

“Our fear is that this wasn’t diplomacy — it was just theater,” the New York Democrat added.

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« Reply #189 on: August 16, 2025, 07:42:25 pm »

https://twitter.com/filipprl/status/1956783050743816543

Zelensky is no stranger to suits.  Not sure why everybody frags him for his war duds.  They were considered cool when Churchill, Arafat, Castro, and Mao wore theirs during formal meetings.  It's just a stupid and petty gripe because of who he is.

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #190 on: August 16, 2025, 07:46:21 pm »
Please, explain to me why you hate this man @Weird Tolkienish Figure   Could he remind you of an unrequited love?

We have a few here that have piled more vitriol towards Trump than Biden.  Including your respondent. 

Sickening. 
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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #191 on: August 16, 2025, 07:49:29 pm »
Great point, Luis ... people who show up to the White House should show some respect and dress properly!

Take this disrespectful slob, for example ... always wears sneakers, a black t-shirt and a freaking ball cap to the WH ... how did he ever get let in??



Was Musk there as the President of a country posing as equal to the POTUS or as a temporary, unpaid employee called in to give an update to his boss?

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #192 on: August 16, 2025, 07:50:10 pm »
When you come to ask for billions more, after having received billions already, show respect to the mores and protocols of the culture, the nation and person whose $ you need to secure in order to survive.

If that’s too much for you to do, go find the $ elsewhere.

I don’t see the expectation of a display of respect between people at their level to be deserving of mockery.

Sure.

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #193 on: August 16, 2025, 07:50:39 pm »
We have a few here that have piled more vitriol towards Trump than Biden.  Including your respondent. 

Sickening.

Trump just appeased a bully.

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #194 on: August 16, 2025, 07:51:37 pm »
Zelensky is no stranger to suits.  Not sure why everybody frags him for his war duds.  They were considered cool when Churchill, Arafat, Castro, and Mao wore theirs during formal meetings.  It's just a stupid and petty gripe because of who he is.



Anyone dressing like this in public deserves severe scorn from the public.


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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #195 on: August 16, 2025, 07:51:53 pm »
Great point, Luis ... people who show up to the White House should show some respect and dress properly!

Take this disrespectful slob, for example ... always wears sneakers, a black t-shirt and a freaking ball cap to the WH ... how did he ever get let in??



Touche! And the effeminate snowflake fashion police metrosexuals at GOP BR were somehow silent. Very good point.

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #196 on: August 16, 2025, 07:52:26 pm »
Trump just appeased a bully.

Tell me again how you don't hate Trump.   :laugh:

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #197 on: August 16, 2025, 07:54:09 pm »
Trump just appeased a bully.

Bull Shit....

You don't know the intricate details of the negotiations.  And btw, what the f is your suggestion for a solution to this war?  Till then,.....   
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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #198 on: August 16, 2025, 08:11:10 pm »
Bull Shit....

You don't know the intricate details of the negotiations.  And btw, what the f is your suggestion for a solution to this war?  Till then,.....   

From my seat Ukraine is doing pretty good. Putin just stop save face and trump is letting him.

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Re: Trump-Putin Alaska Summit
« Reply #199 on: August 16, 2025, 08:38:09 pm »
I love reading expert opinions on the "Summit" from our members. I'm positive you all think you would be better than Trump.   Bless your hearts. 
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