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Still confused.  :shrug:

Are you saying here ⬇️ there's no moral equivalency between the oppressor and the oppressed?  Or are you making a different point?



If the Palistinians are oppressed...perhaps we should blame Hamas...not Israel.

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That was my point precisely.  It is wrong to draw a moral equivalency between Israel and the group of savages that committed the atrocity of October 7th, and holds innocent hostages to this day. 

I agree with this ⬆️ @Cyber Liberty  The Hamas attack on Oct 7, 2023 broke with humanity.

I also think the atrocities of Oct 7 are rooted in a long history of oppression that few appear willing to discuss, especially when considering an end to this 58 year sh!tshow.    I think this is where our opinions diverge.





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The Aljazeera reporter worked as the head of a Hamas rocket platoon and previously met with Hamas’ former Gaza Strip leader Yahya Sinwar. Al-Sharif also praised the October 7th attack as it was ongoing, branding the terrorists carrying out the massacre “heroes.”


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If the Palistinians are oppressed...perhaps we should blame Hamas...not Israel.

It would still come back to Israel, specifically to Netanyahu.  @berdie  Israel has worked deligently to keep Hamas in power as a counter weight to the PLO/Fatah organizations in the West Bank. For 10 years Israel has allowed the tunnels to flourish, authorized over one billion dollars in unaudited payments to Hamas through Qatar and in 2023 ignored their own security's assessment of an upcoming attack by Hamas on Israel.

Meet Israel's weakest link: 

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I agree with this ⬆️ @Cyber Liberty  The Hamas attack on Oct 7, 2023 broke with humanity.

I also think the atrocities of Oct 7 are rooted in a long history of oppression that few appear willing to discuss, especially when considering an end to this 58 year sh!tshow.    I think this is where are opinions diverge.

I think that's correct.  That's the point of divergence!  Was Israel oppressing the "Palestinians?"  Debatable. 

In her defense Israel could see as well as I could that Hamas was not peacefully building a society (as we know one), but was channeling aid from the UN, and other sources like Israel and Iran, into building tunnels and offensive weapons of terror.  What Hamas did and is still doing was premeditated.  I have no sympathy for that even if "world opinion" says Israel oppressed the Palestinians.
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It would still come back to Israel, specifically to Netanyahu.  @berdie  Israel has worked deligently to keep Hamas in power as a counter weight to the PLO/Fatah organizations in the West Bank. For 10 years Israel has allowed the tunnels to flourish, authorized over one billion dollars in unaudited payments to Hamas through Qatar and in 2023 ignored their own security's assessment of an upcoming attack by Hamas on Israel.

Meet Israel's weakest link: 


FWIW, everybody said that about Golda Meir, too.
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FWIW, everybody said that about Golda Meir, too.

Meir had the good grace to resign her premiership and from her seat in the Knesset in early 1974 after being surprised by and unprepared for the Yom Kippur War of 1973.  She would die in Dec 1978 without holding either public office or significance again.

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She would die in Dec 1978 without holding either public office or significance again.

You ever consider that her heart disease and lymphoma might have had something to do with her retirement from politics?

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You ever consider that her heart disease and lymphoma might have had something to do with her retirement from politics?

Golda Meir resigned as Prime Minister of Israel due to the public and political fallout from the Yom Kippur War. The surprise attack by Egypt and Syria in 1973 caught Israel off guard, and the subsequent handling of the war led to widespread criticism and a loss of confidence in her leadership. While Israel was able to regain the offensive after the Yom Kippur War, the massive casualties of the war were seen as Meir's failure, and she resigned from office in 1974.

The war also exposed deep flaws in Israel's intelligence and military planning. The government's initial attempts to deflect blame and the subsequent inquiry into the war's handling further eroded public trust in Meir's leadership.

As criticism mounted, political pressure on Meir increased. The Agranat Commission of Inquiry, established to investigate the war's failures, implicated some government officials, further weakening Meir's position.

Ultimately, the combination of public anger, political pressure, and the findings of the inquiry led Meir to resign as Prime Minister in 1974.
 
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JERUSALEM, April 10 (1974) —Premier Golda Meir announced her resignation tonight, bringing down her month‐old coalition Government and making new national elections likely in the next several months.

The 75‐year‐old Premier said that she was quitting because deep divisions within her Labor party had made it impossible to continue. The party had reached an impasse in recent days over the issue of assigning political responsibility for Israel's military shortcomings at the beginning of the October war.

The members of the Israeli Labor party who attended the closed session at which Mrs. Meir made her announcement quoted her as saying she felt that she no longer commanded sufficient support within her divided party to continue as Premier.

The current crisis erupted last week when the judicial commission of inquiry into the October war published a report assigning the blame for Israel's unpreparedness to the top military command. Although the report cleared Mr. Dayan of responsibility, his critics called on him to resign.

Such an intraparty struggle was inevitable, given Mrs. Meir's age and the divisions that had developed among the three factions. But it was accelerated by the October war, which generated a strong desire among much of the Israeli public for new leadership and new policies.


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JERUSALEM, Dec. 8 (1978)— Golda Meir, a one‐time teacher in Milwaukee who became Prime Minister of Israel, died this afternoon at the age of 80.

Mrs. Meir had been in Hadassah Hospital since August for treatment of an undisclosed back ailment. Early this week a hospital spokesman said she had also been suffering from liver infection and jaundice.

Hadassah Hospital doctors said later that Mrs. Meir had had leukemia for 12 years, including when she was Prime Minister. The hospital spokesman said that the illness was kept under control until recently, when viral hepatitis developed.

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