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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #50 on: August 13, 2025, 10:14:16 am »
I hope this isn't a repeat the of 1938 Sudetenland fiasco - when France and Britain generously gave away Czech territory to Hitler to appease him.

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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #51 on: August 13, 2025, 10:29:02 am »
I agree with you.  Trump doesn't want to be Chamberlain 2.0.
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #52 on: August 13, 2025, 10:55:35 am »
I agree with you.  Trump doesn't want to be Chamberlain 2.0.

But that's the path he's on now...by directly negotiating with Putin while cutting out the country that will be most affected by the outcome.
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2025, 10:56:34 am »
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2025, 11:05:11 am »
The contrast between the two couldn't be clearer!!

One is a nice guy, trying to make his country, and the lives of its citizens, better

The other is a wanted war criminal and murderous psychopath, who (with his thug pals) pillages his own country and sends thousands of his own citizens to their deaths in an unnecessary war that he himself started, and refuses to end

Let's hope Pres. Trump wears a pair of gloves, so all the blood on Putin's hands doesn't stain his

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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2025, 11:34:29 am »
One is a nice guy, trying to make his country, and the lives of its citizens, better

Zelenskyy isn't a "nice" guy, he is a thief who has skimmed aid and closed Churches.  He plays footsie with real Nazis (not the fake kind like the press likes to call Trump and his supporters).
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2025, 11:45:41 am »
Zelenskyy isn't a "nice" guy, he is a thief who has skimmed aid and closed Churches.  He plays footsie with real Nazis (not the fake kind like the press likes to call Trump and his supporters).

Wasn't Z a failed comedian like Colbert? 
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2025, 11:45:44 am »
Zelenskyy isn't a "nice" guy, he is a thief who has skimmed aid..

What proof do you have of that allegation?

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...and closed Churches...
 

He did no such thing.  It was the Ukrainian Parliament that closed those few that were in fact organs of the Russian FSB and GRU, which answered directly to Patriarch Kirill in Moscow, who in turn answers to Putin.

Ukraine’s president signs law banning Russia-linked religious groups

https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/24/europe/ukraine-zelensky-orthodox-church-ban-intl

Putin’s Useful Priests: The Russian Orthodox Church and the Kremlin’s Hidden Influence Campaign in the West

https://www.foreignaffairs.com/ukraine/putins-useful-priests-russia-church-influence-campaign

Head of Russian Orthodox Church ‘was a spy for the KGB’

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/02/06/head-russian-orthodox-church-spy-kgb/

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He plays footsie with real Nazis (not the fake kind like the press likes to call Trump and his supporters).

That's not true either.  Zelensky is Jewish.  Why would any "real Nazis" want anything to do with him?
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2025, 11:47:48 am »
Trump doesn't know Neville Chamberlain from his elbow.

Trump is desperate to get a Nobel Peace Prize because Obama got one.

His ego will accept Peace at any cost if Trump thinks it will get him the Peace Prize.

Putin will blow this opportunity if he is too rigid in his 'demands'.  The ideal outcome for Putin is that Trump and he 'strike a deal' that weakens Zelensky and further isolates him from receiving direct American support.  With time, Germany will be happy to throw Ukraine to the wolves to get cheap Russian natural gas.  The French will be too busy being French to be trifled with the affairs of Eastern Europe.

Trump gets a Nobel Peace Prize, Germany gets cheap natural gas, France and the US no longer have to expend diplomatic capital and treasury, and Putin regains Ukraine as a Russian sphere of influence.

Continental European politics is the contstant struggle of opposing forces - Nationalism vs Imperialism - to find equilibrium or detente.

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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2025, 11:48:48 am »
Wasn't Z a failed comedian like Colbert?

No, he was quite successful, which how he was able to get elected as President of Ukraine in a landslide in April 2019.

Here's one of his most famous shows, from 2015, four years before his election:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7dpw5cAxcM

https://www.netflix.com/title/80119382
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #60 on: August 14, 2025, 07:53:37 am »
Don't expect much ...

"The get-together, we’re told, will be a chance to judge whether Russian President Vladimir Putin has any real desire for peace. But we already know the answer to that: it’s no, unless by peace we’re talking about total capitulation by Ukraine, with Kyiv giving up territory already seized by Russia, while surrendering any hope it has of building a free and democratic country with aspirations towards membership in the European Union and Nato alliance.

What Putin wants is Ukraine as a client state in the manner of Belarus, a puppet republic headed by a willing minion to Russian dominance. In place of Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, Putin imagines the sort of pliant figure that was a feature of the old Soviet Union he so badly misses, a “union” of supplicants owned and operated from the Kremlin.

He’s shown no inclination to change his mind on that. Nor is there any indication his aims or level of determination have altered since he launched his ruinous war three years ago. To date, he’s readily accepted the deaths of an estimated quarter million Russian troops, murdered an ally who sought to interrupt him, overseen the kidnapping of thousands of Ukrainian children and waved goodbye to hundreds of thousands of young Russians who fled the country to escape his grasp. Change his mind now? Good luck on that.

From Putin’s position, there’s little reason to compromise now. He faces no serious internal opposition or public pressure. Russians as a people are so accustomed to centuries of all-powerful monarchs, dictators or one-party states controlling their lives — demanding unquestioning obedience while treating resistance with ruthless punishment —  that it’s bred in their bone. They’re born to it, live with it and see little prospect of anything different. People who challenge Putin fall out of windows, die in exploding airplanes or expire in jails in some distant outback. He has valuable economic and commercial support from China, which has its own reasons for seeking a western world flummoxed by the uncertainty Putin’s war creates...

For Russia, the summit represents another chance to play for time, stringing along the president while continuing to pummel Ukraine and its people. His chances of gain increase the longer Washington procrastinates and Europe is distracted by the economic and security threats the conflict engenders....

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/kelly-mcparland-alaska-summit-offers-no-hope-for-ukraine-compromise?itm_source=index
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Re: BREAKING>>>Trump to meet Putin in Alaska
« Reply #61 on: August 14, 2025, 12:43:54 pm »
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