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BREAKING:

Elon Musk has officially announced the creation of new political party the America Party.

I personally think this is a HUGE mistake.  No one on the left will join, so all he is doing is SCREWING UP the GOP. 

He will just peel off the RINOs.
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Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:










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BREAKING:

Elon Musk has officially announced the creation of new political party the America Party.

I personally think this is a HUGE mistake.  No one on the left will join, so all he is doing is SCREWING UP the GOP. 

He will just peel off the RINOs.


The GOP screwed itself,  And us, too.  This new party won't peel off any RINOs.  It will only peel off Conservatives.  The Trump zealots should be ecstatic over this.
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The GOP screwed itself,  And us, too.  This new party won't peel off any RINOs.  It will only peel off Conservatives.  The Trump zealots should be ecstatic over this.

Yup. Conservatives have been looking for somewhere to go for a long, long time. A whole lot of us will hear him like a ringing bell.

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The GOP screwed itself,  And us, too.  This new party won't peel off any RINOs.  It will only peel off Conservatives.  The Trump zealots should be ecstatic over this.

Why do you still rage against Trump AND his supporters? @Hoodat

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The 'America Party' founder wants to restrict assault weapons.

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Why do you still rage against Trump AND his supporters? @Hoodat

I didn't rage against anyone.  Personally, I don't give a damn that you hate Conservatives.  Enjoy the table you have set.
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What does the America Party say about issues other than spending, including: taxes, fair trade, DEI, transgender rights, right to life, border security, global interventions, military v bread & butter, school choice?

Or will the second coming of TEA flame out like the first?

You don't get it, even yet: Small government takes care of most of those problems inherently.

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Why do you still rage against Trump AND his supporters? @Hoodat

Because it is plastic banana bullshit.

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The 'America Party' founder wants to restrict assault weapons.

"I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

From The America We Deserve - Donald Trump
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I didn't rage against anyone. 

This ⬇️ reference to zealots is a rage.  Granted, it's a little low-T, but a rage nonetheless.

It will only peel off Conservatives.  The Trump zealots should be ecstatic over this.

So, why do you still rage against Trump supporters?

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You don't get it, even yet: Small government takes care of most of those problems inherently.

There is no such thing as a winning national, one issue political party. So, kick the horse off the fainting couch.  You're going to need it, again.




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Made me laugh. Yeah right? Let's all join the new Reform Party!
Elon is a bipolar genius. He is as unstable as he is brilliant.

As we have already seen, a month from now he may say ...
Nope, changed my mind. I'm back with Trump now.

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)
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There is no such thing as a winning national, one issue political party.

That may be true. But it's one helluva good start. If Musk stays in classic libertarianism, Conservatives will naturally hear him.

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This ⬇️ reference to zealots is a rage.  Granted, it's a little low-T, but a rage nonetheless.

So, why do you still rage against Trump supporters?

You clearly are confusing 'ecstasy' with 'rage'.  Considering how much you hate Conservatives and how much you support all the Democrat policies that Trump backs, I am really surprised that you would not be thrilled at this turn of events.  Musk (and Conservatives) want to balance the budget.  They want to end deficit spending.  They want to marginalize the Fed.  They want smaller government.  They want to end corruption.  So this is a wonderful opportunity for you to detach yourself from those opposed to your political philosophy.  Again, you should be ecstatic.
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Made me laugh. Yeah right? Let's all join the new Reform Party!
Elon is a bipolar genius. He is as unstable as he is brilliant.

As we have already seen, a month from now he may say ...
Nope, changed my mind. I'm back with Trump now.

Elon Musk is Great! (but he is also bonkers)

Say what you want about Musk.  But he handed you a winning strategy that would cement Republican control over government for the next quarter century.  Yet when the vote came down, the current Party chose Democrat-lite.  Again.  So the Dems will still have $40 billion in USAID money over the next two years to siphon from to fund their 2026 races.  All because Republicans stupidly chose to reject the gift that Musk handed them.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.
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Say what you want about Musk.  But he handed you a winning strategy that would cement Republican control over government for the next quarter century.  Yet when the vote came down, the current Party chose Democrat-lite.  Again.  So the Dems will still have $40 billion in USAID money over the next two years to siphon from to fund their 2026 races.  All because Republicans stupidly chose to reject the gift that Musk handed them.

Stupid, stupid, stupid.

Yep. Feckless. Not enough feck to put on the head of a pin.

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The GOP screwed itself,  And us, too.  This new party won't peel off any RINOs.  It will only peel off Conservatives.  The Trump zealots should be ecstatic over this.
Remember, it was only yesterday that Musk was the 'superstar' of far-Left radicals. The way politics today swings like a pendulum, based mostly on social media, Musk could yet again become loved by Liberals (in whatever scenario we cannot foresee).

The Democrat Party has an approval rate of less than 20% of their own membership. Elon Musk may actually completely destroy it in finality. If Elon continues to fiercely trash Trump and Republicans, as he is doing now, he may yet become the new leader of what used to be called Democrats.

There are strange things happing every day. We are living through some very bizarre times. Our grandchildren will wonder at us, as we are in wonder of our forefathers. What the hell was going on back then!?


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If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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Remember, it was only yesterday that Musk was the 'superstar' of far-Left radicals. The way politics today swings like a pendulum, based mostly on social media, Musk could yet again become loved by Liberals (in whatever scenario we cannot foresee).

you could take Musk's name out of your quote and put in Tumpy's and it would be every bit as true.

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Remember, it was only yesterday that Musk was the 'superstar' of far-Left radicals.

I don't know if that's true.  He was definitely the superstar of reddit millennials, especially those whose parents suffered from the sub-prime mortgage fiasco.  But the far left?  They hated Musk, primarily for his capitalist success and for his wealth.  Musk has always been a threat to their big government utopia.
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Musk (and Conservatives) want to balance the budget.  They want to end deficit spending.  They want to marginalize the Fed.  They want smaller government.  They want to end corruption. 

Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:





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Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:

Who knows? But even if, it would not even measure as a pittance against what is funded now. So let's find out! I'll take that road. At least for a ways.

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Count me in.

Not me! I can read history! Another Woodrow Wilson in the Whitehouse does us in for good.
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He has my attention too.

Sure he has my attention, but it's just way too soon to make a decision about him. 

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILTBHig6OC8


Odds are not in favor of a 3rd party win and he himself is ineligible to run....so who is he going to tap to run?

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 This was posted on June 16, 2018, at 8:47 AM by Elon Musk

"By the way, I am actually a socialist. Just not the kind that shifts resources from most productive to least productive, pretending to do good, while actually causing harm. True socialism seeks greatest good for all."

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Sorry but this reeks of what Ross Perot did in 1992---stupid and self-defeating.  And how'd that turn out for the country?  It would be even worse now!


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Many are casually dismissing Elon's 3rd party move.He could do major damage as a spoiler. He was an integral part of the MAGA coalition but obviously feels betrayed. I think he's wrong, that Trump's doing exactly what he said he would, & that major cuts take time (& the votes).

Someone in a position to do so should try to get through to him -- if that hasn't already occurred. I hate the national debt as much as anyone, but eventually it's going to require "entitlement" reform. There's not enough discretionary spending to put a dent in it. The math is just the math and so few seem to have come to grips with this.

I believe Elon -- as opposed to leftists -- genuinely wants to save America, but I also believe he's going about it the wrong way -- big time. God help us.
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Many are casually dismissing Elon's 3rd party move.He could do major damage as a spoiler. He was an integral part of the MAGA coalition but obviously feels betrayed. I think he's wrong, that Trump's doing exactly what he said he would, & that major cuts take time (& the votes).

Someone in a position to do so should try to get through to him -- if that hasn't already occurred. I hate the national debt as much as anyone, but eventually it's going to require "entitlement" reform. There's not enough discretionary spending to put a dent in it. The math is just the math and so few seem to have come to grips with this.

I believe Elon -- as opposed to leftists -- genuinely wants to save America, but I also believe he's going about it the wrong way -- big time. God help us.
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Maybe the GOP should stop taking the Conservative vote for granted.  When you piss on Conservatives again and again for fifteen years straight, maybe you should understand why they take their votes elsewhere.
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I distinctly remember 2008 when Conservatives screamed "NO BAILOUTS!".  Did Republicans listen?  No.  Or in 2009 when they screamed "DON'T MONETIZE THE DEBT!"  Did Republicans listen?  No.  Or in 2010 when Conservatives screamed "OVERTURN OBAMACARE".  Did Republicans overturn it?  No.

For the last 15 years, Conservatives have been there to warn Republicans of the errors of their policies.  And what did the Republicans do?  They destroyed the TEA Party.  They openly booed Conservatism on their Convention floor.  At every level, they have declared Conservatives a greater enemy than the Democrat Party itself.  And now they are outraged that Conservatives have the audacity to finally abandon the Democrat-Lite Party?  Screw 'em.  Screw every one of these pricks who have been giving the Democrats everything they've wanted for the last decade and a half.

Planned Parenthood?  Sure, we'll give them taxpayer money?  USAID?  Sure, use that as a Democrat Party slush fund.  Woke policies?  Sure, we'll fund those.  In full.  Illegals?  Heck, we've got taxpayer money for them, too.  Free education.  Free health care?  We won't stop that.  Year after year.  Year end and year out.  Yet Conservatives are the bad guys here?  To hell with you all.
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Trump calls Elon Musk a 'train wreck' as he breaks silence to taunt billionaire's 'ridiculous' plan to break up two-party system

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6 July 2025

President Donald Trump taunted Elon Musk's new third party as 'ridiculous' and said it has been sad to watch his former First Buddy go 'completely off the rails.'

Trump said Musk's America Party would 'never work' as the world's richest man carried out his threat to challenge the two-party system.

'Have fun,' Trump said in response.

And, in a lengthy post on his Truth Social account, Trump accused Musk of going 'completely off the rails.'

'I am saddened to watch Elon Musk go completely “off the rails,” essentially becoming a TRAIN WRECK over the past five weeks. He even wants to start a Third Political Party, despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the United States.'

Musk, in retaliation for Trump's 'big, beautiful bill,' officially filed a Statement of Organization on Sunday with the Federal Election Commission for his 'America Party' political party.

Trump, asked about it, went off on his former 'first buddy.' Musk, the world's richest man, spent millions helping Trump win a second term in the White House.

'I think it's ridiculous to start a third party,' Trump told reporters in New Jersey on his way back to the White House after a weekend at his Bedminster golf club.

'We have a tremendous success with the Republican Party. The Democrats have lost their way, but it's always been a two party system, and I think starting a third party just adds to confusion. It really seems to have been developed for two parties. Third parties have never worked, so he can have fun with it, but I think it's ridiculous.'

Musk quickly, indirectly, responded on social media, asking: 'What the heck was the point of @DOGE if he’s just going to increase the debt by $5 trillion??'

(more)
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14880543/donald-trump-elon-musk-party-fun.html

My personal thought is that Musk understands commerce and corporations, but he has very limited experience with government. Musk wants immediate change and immediate results. Government simply does not work that way.

The U.S. Economy is a Titanic Goliath. Like a cruise liner you cannot suddenly change direction or bring it to a stop. This is a long slow well planned process. Because Musk is impatient and impulsive, his nature is not suited to slow and steady change. Musk wants change "NOW!" today, and with a thing as huge as America, more careful deliberation and calculation is required.
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Maybe the GOP should stop taking the Conservative vote for granted.  When you piss on Conservatives again and again for fifteen years straight, maybe you should understand why they take their votes elsewhere.

That's right. Myself and my friends once were sturdy Republicans. Now nary a one. We're all considered too far to the right. But we didn't move an inch. That should tell you something.

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And Tumpy's full of crap, btw. Sooner or later this bill is going to come due, and change will happen so fast that no one will be able to keep up with it.

Don't say you weren't warned.

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That's right. Myself and my friends once were sturdy Republicans. Now nary a one. We're all considered too far to the right. But we didn't move an inch. That should tell you something.
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Trump calls Elon Musk a 'train wreck' as he breaks silence to taunt billionaire's 'ridiculous' plan to break up two-party system

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6 July 2025

President Donald Trump taunted Elon Musk's new third party as 'ridiculous' and said it has been sad to watch his former First Buddy go 'completely off the rails.'

Trump said Musk's America Party would 'never work' as the world's richest man carried out his threat to challenge the two-party system.

'Have fun,' Trump said in response.

And, in a lengthy post on his Truth Social account, Trump accused Musk of going 'completely off the rails.'

'I am saddened to watch Elon Musk go completely “off the rails,” essentially becoming a TRAIN WRECK over the past five weeks. He even wants to start a Third Political Party, despite the fact that they have never succeeded in the United States.'

Musk, in retaliation for Trump's 'big, beautiful bill,' officially filed a Statement of Organization on Sunday with the Federal Election Commission for his 'America Party' political party.

Trump, asked about it, went off on his former 'first buddy.' Musk, the world's richest man, spent millions helping Trump win a second term in the White House.

'I think it's ridiculous to start a third party,' Trump told reporters in New Jersey on his way back to the White House after a weekend at his Bedminster golf club.

'We have a tremendous success with the Republican Party. The Democrats have lost their way, but it's always been a two party system, and I think starting a third party just adds to confusion. It really seems to have been developed for two parties. Third parties have never worked, so he can have fun with it, but I think it's ridiculous.'

Musk quickly, indirectly, responded on social media, asking: 'What the heck was the point of @DOGE if he’s just going to increase the debt by $5 trillion??'

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14880543/donald-trump-elon-musk-party-fun.html

My personal thought is that Musk understands commerce and corporations, but he has very limited experience with government. Musk wants immediate change and immediate results. Government simply does not work that way.

The U.S. Economy is a Titanic Goliath. Like a cruise liner you cannot suddenly change direction or bring it to a stop. This is a long slow well planned process. Because Musk is impatient and impulsive, his nature is not suited to slow and steady change. Musk wants change "NOW!" today, and with a thing as huge as America, more careful deliberation and calculation is required.

That's rich considering Trump ran as a Reform party candidate in 2000...

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Will the America Party consider the federal and state governments pouring massive subsidies into both Telsa and SpaceX  waste or fraud or abuse --- or all three?   :pondering:

What subsidies has Tesla and SpaceX received.  Please be specific.
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That's rich considering Trump ran as a Reform party candidate in 2000...
True. But he ran with no expectation that he would actually win. He ran as a lark on one hand and to learn the ropes on the other.
He just wanted to see what is what from the inside. It is called an 'exploratory campaign' by some political historians.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists

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For the last 15 years, Conservatives have been there to warn Republicans of the errors of their policies. And what did the Republicans do?  They destroyed the TEA Party.  They openly booed Conservatism on their Convention floor.     

And yet not one conservative, to this day, wonders what would have happened if they had spent all of the years since the end of Reagan's two terms winning the hearts and minds of American voters rather than preaching the superiority of their every intellectual fart and whining about how badly they're treated.  :shrug:

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What subsidies has Tesla and SpaceX received.  Please be specific.

Here's your Google search:  "how much in subsidies have Telsa and SpaceX received?"

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Here's your Google search:  "how much in subsidies have Telsa and SpaceX received?"

Oh, so you're too lazy to research your own claim, yet expect someone else to do it for you?  Did you ever consider that I already did which is why I asked the question, just to expose yet another dishonest post of you making it up as you go?

Again, let's see those subsidies to Tesla and SpaceX.  And please don't confuse the term 'subsidies' with 'government contracts'.
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And yet not one conservative, to this day, wonders what would have happened if they had spent all of the years since the end of Reagan's two terms winning the hearts and minds of American voters rather than preaching the superiority of their every intellectual fart and whining about how badly they're treated.  :shrug:

Your utter contempt of Conservatism is duly noted.  Which is why no one ever bothered with trying to win your heart and mind.  You simply prefer Big Government.
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Oh, so you're too lazy to research your own claim, yet expect someone else to do it for you?

The idiocy of your statement ⬆️ flies straight over your head.  000hehehehe

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Your utter contempt of Conservatism is duly noted.  Which is why no one ever bothered with trying to win your heart and mind. 

Forfeit one, you forfeit all. :shrug:    Your choice, so stop whining.












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Y'all were warned. Over and over. And now another 3-5 TRILLION dollars right out of your pockets, thanks to a Republican Congress and a Republican administration. Hawking it like it is some sort of salvation.

Make sure there can be no dissent. No way out. No opposition.

Suckers.