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My concern as well.  I definitely don't want U.S. involvement.

I do.  Time to cut the head off of the snake.
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Not a drop of American blood was spilled.  So give Bibi his medal and parade.

Sure ...  "Global Bibi Day" begins after he ends this without a drop of US blood shed anywhere due to this incursion..  :crossed:

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https://twitter.com/KatiePavlich/status/1933335546761220562

First, lets hope Iran doesn't already have a nuke - they potentially could have acquired one from NK or Russia too.

Second, if they don't already, can Israel actually take enough out to prevent them from getting one.

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https://twitter.com/EretzIsrael/status/1933328379773923708

Cool.  Israel is at war with Iran.  Iran is gonna get their asses kicked. 
« Last Edit: June 12, 2025, 09:39:00 pm by Wingnut »
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Increasing chance Iranian military chief killed in strikes on Iran nuclear sites, sources say

The likelihood is increasing that the Iranian General Staff, including the Iranian Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri, and senior nuclear scientists were killed in the opening strike of Israel's Operation Rising Lion, early Friday morning.

Dozens of Israeli aircraft participated in an initial wave of strikes on dozens of military targets and Iranian nuclear sites early on Friday morning.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu stated Iran is gearing up to produce tens of thousands of ballistic missiles, which could kill millions of Israelis even without nuclear weapons, but imagine if any of them had nuclear weapons on them.

Further, Netanyahu stated Iran may only be a few months away from being able to actually make a nuclear weapon, and not just have enough uranium.

The IDF confirmed that the reason for the attack is to prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon."Weapons of mass destruction in the hands of the Iranian regime are an existential threat to the State of Israel and to the wider world," the military said.

The IDF targets also include commanders, bases, and nuclear sites, though the main goal is nuclear sites............

https://www.jpost.com/middle-east/iran-news/article-857580

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Will we shoot down Iranian missiles launched at Israel now?

We're not in a position to do so.
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Increasing chance Iranian military chief killed in strikes on Iran nuclear sites, sources say

The likelihood is increasing that the Iranian General Staff, including the Iranian Chief of Staff Mohammad Bagheri, and senior nuclear scientists were killed in the opening strike of Israel's Operation Rising Lion, early Friday morning.

I'm hearing that their scientists were indeed killed.
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The HQ of Iran's IRGC has been hit by missiles.
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First, lets hope Iran doesn't already have a nuke - they potentially could have acquired one from NK or Russia too.

Second, if they don't already, can Israel actually take enough out to prevent them from getting one.

Russia is definitely a concern, and I'm not quite sure that Israel has the firepower that they need, but I think Bibi was pushed into a corner and waiting around for Iran to fully develop nukes wasn't an option.

Reading headlines, Tump wanted Bibi to hold off.

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We're not in a position to do so.

Why aren't we? We did before.

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Why aren't we? We did before.
 

Before, we had a carrier in the Med and two off the coast of Iran.
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Russia is definitely a concern, and I'm not quite sure that Israel has the firepower that they need, but I think Bibi was pushed into a corner and waiting around for Iran to fully develop nukes wasn't an option.

Reading headlines, Tump wanted Bibi to hold off.

Reading the "headlines" may have been for Iranian consumption so that it was indeed a surprise attack.

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Before, we had a carrier in the Med and two off the coast of Iran.

I have to believe that Trump made deals with the Arab states in between. Iran is launching through their airspace and they don't want Iran to have a nuke either.

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I have to believe that Trump made deals with the Arab states in between. Iran is launching through their airspace and they don't want Iran to have a nuke either.

Bingo. 
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Reading the "headlines" may have been for Iranian consumption so that it was indeed a surprise attack.

Unfortunately, I can't see the U.S. sitting this one out and allowing Iran to decimate Israel. On the other hand, I think  Bibi  must be confident that they can stop Iran on their own.

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Unfortunately, I can't see the U.S. sitting this one out and allowing Iran to decimate Israel. On the other hand, I think  Bibi  must be confident that they can stop Iran on their own.

It was Trump who said Iran cannot have nuclear weapons. So, he's also drawn a hard line in the sand. I don't think the plan was for the US to sit it out. Too much at stake. I also believe our military has been quietly preparing for this.

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https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1933330290094809184

Perhaps the better question is should Iran have been allowed to continue on till they had full nuclear capabilities? 


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Perhaps the better question is should Iran have been allowed to continue on till they had full nuclear capabilities?

Does anyone doubt Iran would use a nuke if they had one? 
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Does anyone doubt Iran would use a nuke if they had one?

Ron Paul and Tucker Carlson...


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Suns coming up in Iran.  Let the strikes continue.
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Russia isn't likely going to get much weaponry/drones from Iran now...

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Russia is definitely a concern, and I'm not quite sure that Israel has the firepower that they need, but I think Bibi was pushed into a corner and waiting around for Iran to fully develop nukes wasn't an option.

Reading headlines, Tump wanted Bibi to hold off.
Israel has weapons and capabilities which nobody, including Trump and the world, knows about. Israel does not want to use them to keep it quiet. However, if Iran or anyone else does something really stupid then all bets are off. Israel will unleash the fires of hell on its enemies.

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Perhaps the better question is should Iran have been allowed to continue on till they had full nuclear capabilities?

The truth is Israel won't hesitate to drag us into this if their incursion goes sideways.  I think now is the time for US citizens to let their opinions be known.

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Perhaps the better question is should Iran have been allowed to continue on till they had full nuclear capabilities? 

Yep, the thing of just waiting until it is either too late or just next to too late makes it harder to deal with. Still one has to wonder if Iran has already sneaked in a bomb to the US with our porous borders.
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The truth is Israel won't hesitate to drag us into this if their incursion goes sideways.  I think now is the time for US citizens to let their opinions be known.

(Nice to see you @libertybele    happy77 )

I guess you didn't notice Trump said Iran cannot acquire nuclear weapons. Period. It was Trump who said make a deal now or else. Did you think that could be done without any cost to America???

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I think now is the time for US citizens to let their opinions be known.


They are stretched thin with the ICE protests and such.  So don't hold your breath that your fellow Jew haters will rise up.
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The truth is Israel won't hesitate to drag us into this if their incursion goes sideways.

Then better hurry up with that parade for Bibi.
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The truth is Israel won't hesitate to drag us into this if their incursion goes sideways.  I think now is the time for US citizens to let their opinions be known.

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I certainly don't want to see American blood shed and I sure as heck don't want to see Iran succeed.


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Yep, the thing of just waiting until it is either too late or just next to too late makes it harder to deal with. Still one has to wonder if Iran has already sneaked in a bomb to the US with our porous borders.

You are so right @Sighlass  that is a huge, major concern. 

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