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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #25 on: May 04, 2025, 04:44:42 pm »
The Trump image was ill-advised and tacky, but it wasn't blasphemy. The pope is just a man, he is not the Son of God. Fauci seems to believe himself equal to Jesus Christ.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2025, 04:49:34 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on May 04, 2025, 04:44:42 pm
The Trump image was ill-advised and tacky, but it wasn't blasphemy.

Classic Trump.  When he gets his opponents upset and emotionally riled, they lose the ability to think straight.  It greatly diminishes their effectiveness in opposing him.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2025, 04:55:54 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 02:22:41 pm
Will someone please explain to me how Fauci's blasphemy excuses Trump's blasphemy?

Because Fauci gets paid more.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #28 on: May 04, 2025, 05:03:51 pm »
What Fauci did is, arguably, blasphemy. Not so much with Trump. What Trump did was unnecessary and pointless. Not blasphemy.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #29 on: May 04, 2025, 06:44:41 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 03, 2025, 01:46:28 pm
I understand Trump's need to continually trigger his opponents, but very few Catholics, including me - who favored Trump 56-41 in 2024 -- will be amused by this.

Very few of elderly Catholics will be amused by this --all the rest will chuckle and move on. 
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #30 on: May 04, 2025, 06:49:26 pm »
It's Donald Trump and his communications team, which probably includes some Dilley Memers. Do we expect anything different from him?
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #31 on: May 04, 2025, 06:50:28 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 02:22:41 pm
Will someone please explain to me how Fauci's blasphemy excuses Trump's blasphemy?

What was Trump's "blasphemy", Professor?

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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #32 on: May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on May 04, 2025, 06:50:28 pm
What was Trump's "blasphemy", Professor?

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blas·phe·my
/ˈblasfəmē/
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things

To Catholics the pope is sacred. He is Jesus' representative on earth, to the point that he is considered by Catholics to be infallible. 

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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #33 on: May 04, 2025, 11:29:55 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm
blas·phe·my
/ˈblasfəmē/
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things

To Catholics the pope is sacred.

@massadvj

sacred /sā′krĭd/  adj.

Dedicated to or set apart for the worship of a deity.


Are you saying that Catholics worship the Pope?
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #34 on: May 04, 2025, 11:35:24 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm
He is Jesus' representative on earth

All Christians are Christ's representatives on earth.  (Some good, some bad)


Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm
to the point that he is considered by Catholics to be infallible.

Uh, no.  Catholics do not consider the Pope to be infallible (incapable of erring).  The Pope is human just like the rest of us.  He is the final authority for the Church, but he can also make mistakes.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #35 on: May 04, 2025, 11:36:57 pm »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm
blas·phe·my
/ˈblasfəmē/
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things

To Catholics the pope is sacred. He is Jesus' representative on earth, to the point that he is considered by Catholics to be infallible.

He is only infallible when speaking "ex cathedra"...from the Chair...in terms of Catholic Doctrine.

Which translates that when speaking about illegal immigrants or Islam being our "brothers"...he's FOS!
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2025, 11:59:26 pm »
Quote from: DCPatriot on May 04, 2025, 11:36:57 pm
He is only infallible when speaking "ex cathedra"...from the Chair...in terms of Catholic Doctrine.

Which translates that when speaking about illegal immigrants or Islam being our "brothers"...he's FOS!

Irrelevant to the current discussion.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #37 on: Today at 12:02:28 am »
Are you saying that Catholics worship the Pope?
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I am saying that as far as many Catholics are concerned, the papacy qualifies as a "sacred thing" under the definition of blasphemy. People do not necessarily worship sacred things, but they hold them in reverence for what they represent.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #38 on: Today at 12:03:24 am »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 11:59:26 pm
Irrelevant to the current discussion.

The Pope is a human being.  He is NOT sacred. He is NOT a sacred thing.  You cannot "blaspheme" when speaking about the Pope.

It's pertinent and certainly "relevant" to the discussion.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #39 on: Today at 12:05:22 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on Today at 12:03:24 am
The Pope is a human being.  He is NOT sacred. He is NOT a sacred thing.  You cannot "blaspheme" when speaking about the Pope.

It's pertinent and certainly "relevant" to the discussion.


Are you a Catholic?
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #40 on: Today at 12:14:10 am »
Quote from: massadvj on Today at 12:02:28 am
I am saying that as far as many Catholics are concerned, the papacy qualifies as a "sacred thing" under the definition of blasphemy. People do not necessarily worship sacred things, but they hold them in reverence for what they represent.

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What is the source of that "sacred thing" quote?  I would like to see the Catholic source material that defines the Pope as a "sacred thing".  Thanks in advance.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #41 on: Today at 12:51:49 am »
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Are you a Catholic?

Yes I am.  Altar Boy in Parochial elementary school - Sisters of Mercy...High School - Franciscan priests...College - Jesuit priests.
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #42 on: Today at 06:42:23 am »
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@massadvj

What is the source of that "sacred thing" quote?  I would like to see the Catholic source material that defines the Pope as a "sacred thing".  Thanks in advance.

https://www.catholic.com/tract/what-do-catholics-believe-about-the-pope
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« Reply #43 on: Today at 06:43:25 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on Today at 12:51:49 am
Yes I am.  Altar Boy in Parochial elementary school - Sisters of Mercy...High School - Franciscan priests...College - Jesuit priests.

So now you believe that Trump is infallible?
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #44 on: Today at 06:56:29 am »
Quote from: massadvj on Today at 06:43:25 am
So now you believe that Trump is infallible?

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I'm able to differentiate the difference.  Even the difference between trolling and posting an opinion.   tipping hat!!
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #45 on: Today at 07:12:49 am »
Quote from: massadvj on Today at 06:43:25 am
So now you believe that Trump is infallible?

If you still think the pope is infallible after Francis...
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« Reply #46 on: Today at 07:16:43 am »
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If you still think the pope is infallible after Francis...

LOL!  No more Jesuit Popes, please??
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #47 on: Today at 08:32:46 am »
Quote from: massadvj on May 04, 2025, 10:15:13 pm
blas·phe·my
/ˈblasfəmē/
noun
the act or offense of speaking sacrilegiously about God or sacred things

To Catholics the pope is sacred. He is Jesus' representative on earth, to the point that he is considered by Catholics to be infallible.

Are you Roman Catholic @massadvj ?
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Re: Trump posts AI-generated photo of himself dressed as the pope
« Reply #48 on: Today at 08:46:17 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on Today at 06:56:29 am
@massadvj   

I'm able to differentiate the difference.  Even the difference between trolling and posting an opinion.   tipping hat!!

 :thumbsup:  @DCPatriot
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« Reply #49 on: Today at 08:55:33 am »
Quote from: DCPatriot on Today at 06:56:29 am
@massadvj   

I'm able to differentiate the difference.  Even the difference between trolling and posting an opinion.   tipping hat!!

Yeah but here's the thing, why are you ok with the President trolling?
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