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 Hegseth shared detailed military plans in second Signal chat that included his wife and brother
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By Natasha Bertrand, Jake Tapper, Haley Britzky and Zachary Cohen, CNN
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Updated 7:18 PM EDT, Sun April 20, 2025

CNN  —

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth shared detailed plans about a military operation against the Houthis in Yemen on a second Signal group chat that included his wife, lawyer and brother, three people familiar with the chat told CNN.

The revelation comes as some of Hegseth’s closest advisers have begun sounding the alarm about the secretary’s judgment, including his former press secretary, John Ullyot, and three former senior officials Hegseth fired last week — his top adviser Dan Caldwell, deputy chief of staff Darin Selnick, and Colin Carroll, who served as chief of staff to the deputy secretary of defense.

“It’s been a month of total chaos at the Pentagon. From leaks of sensitive operational plans to mass firings, the dysfunction is now a major distraction for the president — who deserves better from his senior leadership,” Ullyot said in a statement obtained by CNN.

The second Signal chat is in addition to the one Hegseth used to communicate with Cabinet officials last month about military plans, which is now under investigation by the Defense Department’s acting inspector general. The chat was set up during the confirmation hearing process as a way for Hegseth’s closest allies to strategize, two of the people familiar with the matter said.

But Hegseth continued using the chat, which was on his personal phone, to communicate with them after he was confirmed, the people said. Similar to the first Signal chat, which was revealed publicly by The Atlantic after its editor was mistakenly included by national security adviser Mike Waltz, the military plans Hegseth shared in the second Signal chat were about strikes against the Houthis, the people said.

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I guess Pete shouldn't have fired his former buddies who leaked this info...

Three fired Pentagon officials say they’ve been ‘slandered’ by ‘baseless attacks’ from ‘unnamed’ officials

https://thehill.com/policy/defense/5257461-three-fired-pentagon-officials-hegseth-statement/

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I thought his brother worked in the Pentagon. Another nothing🍔?
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Pentagon Spokesman Sean Parnell Responds to Establishment Media Relaunching Signal-Gate: ‘Another Old Story’

Chief Pentagon Spokesman Sean Parnell responded to the establishment news media relaunching Signal-gate attacks against Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth, noting that it is “another old story” that is “back from the dead.”

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Let's see what was on the text first.

MSM and mouth frothing anti-Trump faction continues to lie and distort, so my odds on this having legs  is somewhere between yawner, and nuffinburger.
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White House rips alleged Pentagon leakers' 'shattered egos,' brushes off Hegseth second Signal chat report
'Recently-fired ‘leakers’ are continuing to misrepresent the truth to soothe their shattered egos,' the White House said
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Published April 21, 2025 9:39am EDT

The White House hit back at recent news reports detailing Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth's reported involvement in a second Signal group chat where he discussed military strikes on Yemen as a "nonstory" while also slamming recently fired Department of Defense staffers.

"No matter how many times the legacy media tries to resurrect the same nonstory, they can’t change the fact that no classified information was shared," White House spokeswoman Anna Kelly told Fox News Digital Monday morning. "Recently fired ‘leakers’ are continuing to misrepresent the truth to soothe their shattered egos and undermine the President’s agenda, but the administration will continue to hold them accountable."

Kelly's response followed Fox News Digital inquiring about media reports Sunday reporting that Hegseth was part of another Signal group chat that allegedly included his wife, personal attorney and brother where he discussed upcoming military strikes on Yemen. The chat was reportedly created by Hegseth, the New York Times reported Sunday, citing four people will knowledge of the chat.

The White House "stands strongly" behind Hegseth, according to White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt, despite a week of dramatic high-level firings in addition to Signal chat reports.

"The President stands strongly behind Secretary Hegseth, who is doing a phenomenal job leading the Pentagon," Leavitt said on Fox News Monday.

"This is what happens when the entire Pentagon is working against you and working against the monumental change that you are trying to implement."

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Warner: ‘Way Past Time that Hegseth Should Either Quit or Be Fired’

Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) said Monday on CNN’s “The Situation Room” that Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth should be fired or resign after reports that military details were shared in a second Signal group chat.
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Was he drunk or sober when he did this


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Were you spanking and tickling a new pledge in your underwear when you posted this frat boy?


Yes how dare I question the orange glorious leader.  I thought your dear leader hires the best.  Well maybe who kisses his ass the best.


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Yes how dare I question the orange glorious leader.  I thought your dear leader hires the best.  Well maybe who kisses his ass the best.


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https://youtu.be/GU7tBHvcG1s?si=QFot4ET2bbZvWFFS

And apparently anyone within three degrees of him, since this is about Hegseth.
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I dunno, rather than "shattered egos" it sounds to me more like his friends he had hired then fired feel completely betrayed.

I don't care about the Signal chat nonsense but it seems that Pete is having people management problems around him.

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Report: White House Looking for a New Secretary of Defense (White House Denies It)
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Report: White House Looking for a New Secretary of Defense (White House Denies It)
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I would not be surprised to see a denial of this report, probably before I'm done writing about it. NPR is reporting that, according to an anonymous US official, the White House is now looking for a new Secretary of Defense to replace Pete Hegseth.

    The White House has begun the process of looking for a new secretary of defense, according to a U.S. official who was not authorized to speak publicly...

    This comes as Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth continues to find himself mired in controversy. NPR has also confirmed with the same official that Hegseth shared details ahead of last month's Yemen strikes with his wife and brother in a Signal chat on his personal phone, minutes after being updated by a senior U.S. military official.

The NPR report follows a NY Times story published yesterday that says Sec. Hegseth was part of another Signal group chat last month which included discussion of the strike on Yemen.

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...according to an anonymous US official...

OK, who's the hypocrite doing the same exact thing that Pete's critics are complaining about?
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Karoline Leavitt Denies NPR Story of White House Looking to Replace Hegseth

White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt denied a story from NPR on Monday that alleged the White House is looking to replace Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth.

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If in fact this story is true, can can bet your *ss Trump has had enough.  It is completely stupid to have this kind of story break once again.  Makes Hegseth look like a total clown act.

If the story is false, Trump will chock it up to fake media.

Time will tell, but I think Pete should be checking with Fox News to see if he can get his old position back.  That is what my gut is telling me.

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And apparently anyone within three degrees of him, since this is about Hegseth.


Your dear leader hired him and hires the best people? Maybe having a drunk and someone from Fox News in charge of our military was a bad idea.


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Let's see what was on the text first.

MSM and mouth frothing anti-Trump faction continues to lie and distort, so my odds on this having legs  is somewhere between yawner, and nuffinburger.
Not only that, but it dawns on me this could be a great way to find out who is leaking what...disinformation?
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SABOTAGE: The behind the scenes effort to oust Pete Hegseth was started by DOD appointee John Ullyot. Now that he's been ousted he's working with allies in the House securing Rep Bacon's call for the SecDef's resignation. Bacon fought to keep DEI in the military and is now fighting to stop Pete from eliminating it.
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That Breitbart story seems to be mostly a lie...

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Last night there were numerous NDAA amendment proposed in opposition DoD’s excessive and often divisive emphasis on diversity, equity and inclusion. I was proud to join my colleagues in supporting six different amendments that eliminate the position of Chief Diversity Officer, eliminate the Countering Extremism Working Group, prohibit formal instruction on CRT at our academies, prohibit drag shows on government property and other similar measures.  However, the language of the two amendments in question was drafted too broadly and had the potential to do significant harm to long-standing DoD equal opportunity programs that ensure Department of Defense compliance with the Constitution and US law. One amendment would have totally cut all diversity training for the military, which is unreasonable. All service members should know that racism and sexual harassment are not tolerated in our military, and you do that through training.
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If in fact this story is true, can can bet your *ss Trump has had enough.  It is completely stupid to have this kind of story break once again.  Makes Hegseth look like a total clown act.

Gee, what are the odds that Trump, of all people, understands how the pro-DEI crowd zeros in to destroy any challenge in a coordinated effort to keep their agenda alive @jafo2010 ?

This story "broke again" because it's a favorite with the NTs whose only strategy is to play their "see, I'm not really the loser" card --- proving yet again the NTs continue to be the wind beneath the wings of the anti-American Marxist.

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The revelation comes as some of Hegseth’s closest advisers have begun sounding the alarm about the secretary’s judgment

We fought like hell to get this guy confirmed and now he's showing to be a flaming bleep.

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Info Hegseth shared with wife and brother came from top general's secure messages

Hegseth has denied the information he shared was classified, but it was given to him on a system for sensitive and classified information, sources told NBC News.

Updated April 22, 2025, 10:01 AM CDT
By Courtney Kube and Gordon Lubold

WASHINGTON — Minutes before U.S. fighter jets took off to begin strikes against Iranian-backed Houthi rebels in Yemen last month, Army Gen. Michael Erik Kurilla, who leads U.S. Central Command, used a secure U.S. government system to send detailed information about the operation to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

The material Kurilla sent included details about when U.S. fighters would take off and when they would hit their targets — details that could, if they fell into the wrong hands, put the pilots of those fighters in grave danger. But he was doing exactly what he was supposed to: providing Hegseth, his superior, with information he needed to know and using a system specifically designed to safely transmit sensitive and classified information.

But then Hegseth used his personal phone to send some of the same information Kurilla had given him to at least two group text chats on the Signal messaging app, three U.S. officials with direct knowledge of the exchanges told NBC News.

The sequence of events, which has not been previously reported, could raise new questions about Hegseth’s handling of the information, which he and the government have denied was classified. In all, according to the two sources, less than 10 minutes elapsed between Kurilla’s giving Hegseth the information and Hegseth’s sending it to the two group chats, one of which included other Cabinet-level officials and their designees — and, inadvertently, the editor of The Atlantic magazine. The other group included Hegseth’s wife, his brother, his attorney and some of his aides.

Hegseth shared the information on Signal even though, NBC News has reported, an aide warned him in the days beforehand to be careful not to share sensitive information on an unsecure communications system before the Yemen strikes, according to two sources with knowledge of the matter.

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Info Hegseth shared with wife and brother came from top general's secure messages

Hegseth has denied the information he shared was classified, but it was given to him on a system for sensitive and classified information, sources told NBC News.


Meh...I just can't get torqued off about this, even in the slightest...due to 1) how slipshod the Clintons and Bidens were with the same kind of info, and 2) as SecDef, Hegseth can share this info with anybody he wants on whatever platform he chooses.

The bigger issue I have with him is his staff turmoil and backbiting that's going on...that's not health for the military.
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sources told NBC News.

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When the Secretary of Defense screws up, servicemembers’ lives are on the line.

Pete Hegseth has shown time and time again he screws up way too much to do this job. He must resign or be fired.
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If Hillary didn't get fired or prosecuted for her illegal email server, why should anyone else be held to a different standard?

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Hegseth Defiant in Response to Signal Chat Controversy: ‘If People Don’t Like It, They Can Come After Me’

Tuesday on FNC’s “Fox & Friends,” Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth pushed back against media and Democrat attacks on his leadership role based on allegations of unsecured communications through the Signal app.

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The manufactured Pete Hegseth crisis is best understood for what it is: a CIA information warfare operation. If you hear a Republican giving this oxygen, change the channel & make a note to never listen to that person again. They are either ignorant or deceived or too stupid to understand - or worse, they are not playing for the right team.
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Your dear leader hired him and hires the best people? Maybe having a drunk and someone from Fox News in charge of our military was a bad idea.
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The manufactured Pete Hegseth crisis is best understood for what it is: a CIA information warfare operation. If you hear a Republican giving this oxygen, change the channel & make a note to never listen to that person again. They are either ignorant or deceived or too stupid to understand - or worse, they are not playing for the right team.
And who is in charge of the CIA? The executive branch. Where is the purge, then? Why hasn't DOGE shown up?
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And who is in charge of the CIA? The executive branch. Where is the purge, then? Why hasn't DOGE shown up?

Was under the distinct impression that DOGE is directed to concentrate on "Government EFFICIENCY"...to eliminate financial waste and embezzlement.

Seems that this should be Pam Bondi and Kash Patel's responsibilities.
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When you have a media that is totally corrupt, and a political party that has gone full blown communist, you need to be at your best to confront such enemies of the USA.  And I consider both enemies of the USA. 

It is no mystery to me that the Dems want to destroy this nation that most of us believe in. 

But I will repeat what I said.  If Hegseth repeated the lack of security by using this software, he needs to go.  PERIOD!!!  It is not the NT folks that put him up to doing it, is it?  Again, if he actually did this, he is a dumb sh*t!!!

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If Hillary didn't get fired or prosecuted for her illegal email server, why should anyone else be held to a different standard?

The price of 'selective enforcement' is the devaluation of 'law'.  A law for some is a law for none.
Sure enough. Doesn't Alinsky's Rules for Radicals include something about using the system against itself?

BTW, I haven't seen the headlines about Hillary and a host of others getting prosecuted, or losing their jobs before their terms ran out.
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When you have a media that is totally corrupt, and a political party that has gone full blown communist, you need to be at your best to confront such enemies of the USA.  And I consider both enemies of the USA. 

It is no mystery to me that the Dems want to destroy this nation that most of us believe in. 

But I will repeat what I said.  If Hegseth repeated the lack of security by using this software, he needs to go.  PERIOD!!!  It is not the NT folks that put him up to doing it, is it?  Again, if he actually did this, he is a dumb sh*t!!!

With 350 million people, Trump has plenty he could select from to lead the Department of Defense.
I thought the app was supposed to be secure, just that he included people in his list who were not supposed to be on it.

Why not just come up with a new app for handling secure comms, one which only people with the right clearances have access, and flag every message with a clearance required flag that will prevent delivery to those who do not have that rating?
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All the encryption in the world cannot safeguard sensitive information from human error and folly.
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Was under the distinct impression that DOGE is directed to concentrate on "Government EFFICIENCY"...to eliminate financial waste and embezzlement.

Seems that this should be Pam Bondi and Kash Patel's responsibilities.
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True, but the surest way to halt the operations of any agency is to defund it, which is right in DOGE's wheelhouse.
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True, but the surest way to halt the operations of any agency is to defund it, which is right in DOGE's wheelhouse.

True, but are you really saying you want the CIA dissolved entirely?   happy77
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True, but are you really saying you want the CIA dissolved entirely?   happy77
I'm going to plead the fifth on that.  :whistle:
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Hegseth faces latest battle defending his defense secretary post at the Pentagon
While the Secretary of Defense has historically received bipartisan support in the Senate, the upper chamber did not issue broad backing for Hegseth’s nomination.
By Diana Stancy Fox News
Published April 24, 2025 12:56pm EDT

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth may have deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan — but now he’s facing another battle: this time on his home turf at the Pentagon.

Controversy has plagued Hegseth since Trump first nominated him to serve as the secretary of defense, from sexual assault and drinking allegations, to two Signal chat debacles, and an op-ed suggesting that Hegseth may be on the way out.

The new Signal controversy, along with the op-ed, are only the latest blows in what the Trump administration claims are sustained effort against Hegseth as defense secretary, dating back to his nomination.

Scrutiny has heightened after a Sunday New York Times report said that Hegseth shared information about a March military airstrike against the Houthis in a Signal messaging app group chat that also included his wife, brother and personal lawyer. 

That incident follows a similar episode in March, when the Atlantic editor-in-chief Jeffrey Goldberg was added to a Signal group chat alongside Hegseth, Vice President JD Vance and others, to discuss the same attack on the Houthis.

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This shrub needs to step down and go back to Fox News... He has no business being Secretary of Defense...





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