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« Reply #100 on: April 08, 2025, 04:11:22 pm »
The Russell 2000 has lost 15% of its value in 4 days. 

104% tariffs are coming against China tomorrow.  This is our second largest supplier.

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« Reply #101 on: April 08, 2025, 04:43:19 pm »
Election results track very closely to stock market, maybe more than any other factor. Just saying...

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« Reply #102 on: April 08, 2025, 05:26:01 pm »
The Russell 2000 has lost 15% of its value in 4 days. 

104% tariffs are coming against China tomorrow.  This is our second largest supplier.

This is going to be fun to watch.  Wonder who will blink 1st.  Pretty sure it won't be Trump.
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« Reply #103 on: April 09, 2025, 09:48:14 am »
This is going to be fun to watch.  Wonder who will blink 1st.  Pretty sure it won't be Trump.
Mr. Wonderful believe Trump should respond with a 400% tariff.

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« Reply #104 on: April 09, 2025, 09:59:36 am »
This is going to be fun to watch.  Wonder who will blink 1st.  Pretty sure it won't be Trump.

In the long run China needs us worse than we need them.
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« Reply #105 on: April 09, 2025, 10:27:10 am »
In the long run China needs us worse than we need them.

The US is like a heroin addict. They need a fix with those cheap chinamen goods. Withdrawal is going to be painful. 
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« Reply #106 on: April 09, 2025, 11:34:29 am »
The US is like a heroin addict. They need a fix with those cheap chinamen goods. Withdrawal is going to be painful.

It's absolutely true! Reality is America needs to grow the hell up and quit acting like rich daddy cheerleaders and frat boys.
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« Reply #107 on: April 09, 2025, 11:45:57 am »
Globalists are a swarm of locusts who'll go from $h!th0le country to $h!th0le country to source the cheapest suppliers, lowering the standard of living for the working class in developed countries, until nobody has disposable income with which to consume, except the kleptocratic oligarchs.
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« Reply #108 on: April 10, 2025, 09:19:49 pm »
Election results track very closely to stock market, maybe more than any other factor. Just saying...

That certainly explains Kamala Harris' easy victory in the 2024 Presidential race.  The market rose 4,000 points during the 15 weeks of her candidacy.
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« Reply #109 on: April 11, 2025, 03:36:42 am »
It's absolutely true! Reality is America needs to grow the hell up and quit acting like rich daddy cheerleaders and frat boys.


You absolute idiot. Cheering for the stock market to crash is like rooting for your own house to burn down because you don’t like the paint. You think regular Americans don’t rely on their 401(k)s or pensions? And on top of that, using a racist term like ‘chinamen’ just proves you’re not only clueless about economics—you’re also stuck in some 1950s fantasy where ignorance is patriotic. Grow up.

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« Reply #110 on: April 11, 2025, 08:57:36 am »

You absolute idiot. Cheering for the stock market to crash is like rooting for your own house to burn down because you don’t like the paint. You think regular Americans don’t rely on their 401(k)s or pensions? And on top of that, using a racist term like ‘chinamen’ just proves you’re not only clueless about economics—you’re also stuck in some 1950s fantasy where ignorance is patriotic. Grow up.

 Says the guy who spends every waking moment and never misses a beat to regurgitate schiff type talking points to disparage the President of the United States!

Grow up you hypocrite.

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« Reply #111 on: April 11, 2025, 08:59:25 am »

You absolute idiot. Cheering for the stock market to crash is like rooting for your own house to burn down because you don’t like the paint. You think regular Americans don’t rely on their 401(k)s or pensions? And on top of that, using a racist term like ‘chinamen’ just proves you’re not only clueless about economics—you’re also stuck in some 1950s fantasy where ignorance is patriotic. Grow up.

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Anyone stupid enough to "rely" on equities from stock market returns  to meet  living expenses deserves that fate.  And I have a sneaking suspicion, that you might be  in that category with that comment.   And me....  I would like to see a further major correction, but honestly, I am greedy, and want some bargains. It's not oversold enough for me.

Point 2?  Chinaman.....   Sounds like a a man from China.  A Chinaman. You want call me clueless on economics?  Go ahead...  I dare you.
Honestly, someone who dresses up like a Starship Captain,  normally isn't taken seriously.
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« Reply #112 on: April 11, 2025, 09:04:57 am »
Says the guy who spends every waking moment and never misses a beat to regurgitate schiff type talking points to disparage the President of the United States!

Grow up you hypocrite.

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« Reply #113 on: April 11, 2025, 09:19:11 am »
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Point 2?  Chinaman.....   Sounds like a a man from China.  A Chinaman. You want call me clueless on economics?  Go ahead...  I dare you.
Honestly, someone who dresses up like a Starship Captain,  normally isn't taken seriously.

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Normally I use the term "C__k" but that is rude and socially unacceptable in todays woke society.

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« Reply #114 on: April 11, 2025, 10:32:14 am »
@Wingnut

Anyone stupid enough to "rely" on equities from stock market returns  to meet  living expenses deserves that fate.  And I have a sneaking suspicion, that you might be  in that category with that comment.   And me....  I would like to see a further major correction, but honestly, I am greedy, and want some bargains. It's not oversold enough for me.

Point 2?  Chinaman.....   Sounds like a a man from China.  A Chinaman. You want call me clueless on economics?  Go ahead...  I dare you.
Honestly, someone who dresses up like a Starship Captain,  normally isn't taken seriously.




Tough talk from a lost cause loser!
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« Reply #115 on: April 11, 2025, 10:34:07 am »
Says the guy who spends every waking moment and never misses a beat to regurgitate schiff type talking points to disparage the President of the United States!

Grow up you hypocrite.


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« Reply #116 on: April 11, 2025, 10:34:52 am »
Also avowed fan of Cheney and Kinzinger.


Is that an insul?
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« Reply #117 on: April 11, 2025, 10:36:45 am »



Tough talk from a lost cause loser!

My heartfelt congratulations....   You learned how to spell "cause"



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« Reply #118 on: April 11, 2025, 10:38:13 am »

Is that an insul?

lol....  Casue's and now insul's? 

. Well the world does need to be insulated from these RINO POS'

Give up mental midget.
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« Reply #119 on: April 11, 2025, 10:56:51 am »
lol....  Casue's and now insul's? 

. Well the world does need to be insulated from these RINO POS'

Give up mental midget.
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« Reply #120 on: April 11, 2025, 11:57:00 am »
That certainly explains Kamala Harris' easy victory in the 2024 Presidential race.  The market rose 4,000 points during the 15 weeks of her candidacy.

I said closely. Other economic factors are in play like inflation, etc.

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« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2025, 12:26:02 pm »
I said closely. Other economic factors are in play like inflation, etc.

In other words, not closely at all.
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« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2025, 12:29:17 pm »
You absolute idiot. Cheering for the stock market to crash is like rooting for your own house to burn down because you don’t like the paint.

Who here is cheering for the stock market to crash?  I would really like to see that post, @kevindavis007 .
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« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2025, 02:38:09 pm »

How dare I question your orange Jesus

 You lack the ability or knowledge to question.
You are merely a schiff sheep.
What a miserable waisted existence.
Your entire being is based on attempts to discredit Trump.
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« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2025, 07:18:05 pm »
In other words, not closely at all.

No. There are other colors besides black and white. Indeed there are 50 shades of grey.

Nuance, man. It's not just a fancy word.

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« Reply #126 on: April 13, 2025, 08:39:08 am »
Speaking of the stock market, make of this what you will (couldn't find the list of such companies the tweeter referenced):

 Iran and China have fake companies on our stock exchange that Vanguard created for them that are fake companies that are loaded with US Dollars that goes directly to China / Iran. These shell companies don't have to follow the same rules as everyone else.


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« Reply #127 on: April 13, 2025, 10:25:27 am »

https://twitter.com/NewReaganCaucus/status/1910786426226242041


Freeman is correct.  Which is why Musk is pushing for zero tariffs. So I ask yet again, can tou tell me what Trump's end game is here?
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« Reply #128 on: April 13, 2025, 10:36:16 am »

You absolute idiot. Cheering for the stock market to crash is like rooting for your own house to burn down because you don’t like the paint. You think regular Americans don’t rely on their 401(k)s or pensions? And on top of that, using a racist term like ‘chinamen’ just proves you’re not only clueless about economics—you’re also stuck in some 1950s fantasy where ignorance is patriotic. Grow up.

You obviously liked it under the Old Skeezy administration. Roaring inflation, bogus stock market gains, China eating us alive, billions down a rathole to Ukraine, govt deficits ballooning to oblivion for leftist causes and govt workers grifting off Americans, cheap slave labor Iphones, and jobs disappearing overseas.

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« Reply #129 on: April 13, 2025, 12:08:51 pm »
Speaking of the stock market, make of this what you will (couldn't find the list of such companies the tweeter referenced):

 Iran and China have fake companies on our stock exchange that Vanguard created for them that are fake companies that are loaded with US Dollars that goes directly to China / Iran. These shell companies don't have to follow the same rules as everyone else.


https://twitter.com/wendyp4545/status/1911397109598716317

WTF is she talking about?  She's long on paranoia, and very short on actionable facts.

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« Reply #130 on: April 13, 2025, 12:45:06 pm »
WTF is she talking about?  She's long on paranoia, and very short on actionable facts.

Vanguard's among the largest in the ETF and MF world.  Hope she's got some facts, otherwise, she ought to lawyer up. These types don't F around when their reputation is brought into play.

OTOH, I wouldn't doubt this is happening, but from tiny players.
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« Reply #131 on: April 14, 2025, 08:53:13 am »
FWIW here are some stories on the tariffs are effecting the business environment. Hint it's not good.





https://twitter.com/SpencerHakimian/status/1911564654981321180


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« Reply #132 on: June 29, 2025, 09:41:13 am »
What?  Record market Friday?
Inflation dropping like a rock?
Near full employment?

I love dishing out Crow.

I told everyone that these economic moves by Trump were more aligned like Calvin Coolidge and his philosophy and strategy (Our by far greatest economic POTUS) than a pure proponent of tariffs.  My confidence in intent has gone up from 75% to 90% since the inception of this thread. 

Nevertrumpers (which I used to be). and socialist dims?  I can hear the gnashing of teeth.

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« Reply #133 on: June 29, 2025, 10:19:21 am »
Still waiting for the tariff pain to hit me. 

Oh and my retirement IRA are back abouve where they were before the knee jerk jag offs started a panic sell off.
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« Reply #134 on: June 29, 2025, 10:30:58 am »
Still waiting for the tariff pain to hit me. 

Oh and my retirement IRA are back abouve where they were before the knee jerk jag offs started a panic sell off.

 :beer:

I expect the price of eggs to go up soon, due to the massive amount being splatted in the face against so many people.
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« Reply #135 on: June 29, 2025, 10:48:17 am »
Some are declaring victory too early. For example, how many actual trade deals do we have? That “90 deals in 90 days” promise made back in April is coming up awfully quick.

And how many more times will he back down? I predicted that when he got close to that 90 days, the administration will move the goalposts and it looks like I’m right


On Thursday, the Trump administration officially backed down from the "90 deals in 90 days" posturing. Press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters that the early July deadline for re-implementing those paused tariffs was "not critical." Whether the paused "Liberation Day" tariffs return in early July is "a decision for the president to make," she added.

On Friday morning, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said trade negotiations will continue until at least September 1, effectively giving the administration an extra 60 days to deliver those 90 deals.

Of course, that also means the uncertainty of the trade war will continue for businesses that have to plan purchases more than a few months ahead.

What's becoming more certain is that Trump's second-term trade war has failed on its own terms. That's evidently not only in the lack of new trade deals that have been delivered, but also in two other data points that crystallized this week.

First, data from the Commerce Department showed that America's trade deficit—the gap between the value of all imports and all exports—widened to $96.6 billion in May. That's an 11 percent increase over April. The main culprit in the growing trade deficit was a decline in exports (which fell by $9.7 billion) even as imports stayed flat.


https://reason.com/2025/06/27/90-deals-in-90-days-trumps-trade-war-is-failing-on-its-own-terms/

So more TACO :pootrump:


It’s gotten so bad that he had to send a letter to our trading partners practically begging for them to make a deal

https://www.yahoo.com/news/karoline-leavitt-admits-trump-begging-183233937.html


The plus side is the Stock Market has figured this guy out and brushes off his tariff tantrums
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« Reply #136 on: June 29, 2025, 11:07:56 am »
Some are declaring victory too early. For example, how many actual trade deals do we have? That “90 deals in 90 days” promise made back in April is coming up awfully quick.

And how many more times will he back down? I predicted that when he got close to that 90 days, the administration will move the goalposts and it looks like I’m right


On Thursday, the Trump administration officially backed down from the "90 deals in 90 days" posturing. Press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters that the early July deadline for re-implementing those paused tariffs was "not critical." Whether the paused "Liberation Day" tariffs return in early July is "a decision for the president to make," she added.

On Friday morning, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent said trade negotiations will continue until at least September 1, effectively giving the administration an extra 60 days to deliver those 90 deals.

Of course, that also means the uncertainty of the trade war will continue for businesses that have to plan purchases more than a few months ahead.

What's becoming more certain is that Trump's second-term trade war has failed on its own terms. That's evidently not only in the lack of new trade deals that have been delivered, but also in two other data points that crystallized this week.

First, data from the Commerce Department showed that America's trade deficit—the gap between the value of all imports and all exports—widened to $96.6 billion in May. That's an 11 percent increase over April. The main culprit in the growing trade deficit was a decline in exports (which fell by $9.7 billion) even as imports stayed flat.


https://reason.com/2025/06/27/90-deals-in-90-days-trumps-trade-war-is-failing-on-its-own-terms/

So more TACO :pootrump:

What a joke...

(1) No one expected Trump's timeline to go as plan...  Hell, he has 50 balls to juggle in the air at once.  Several of the big actors at or near might include China, UK, Japan, and SK are within sight.  That on a weighed basis, is well over 50% of our trade volume.   So just what do you freakin' want ....Magic?  Yes, Trump infers Bravado, but that is part of the charm, and part of strong leadership.  When I was a Manager at a Plant, I'd set almost impossible goals, so that the team was energized to move mountains.  Trump does the same.

(2) Very telling you use the dim and liberal "TACO" bullshit meme that the dims parrot.   Are you one of them?  Did Trump "TACO" last week with Iran?  I used tp think TDS was a fallacy outside the socialist......., thanks....   you are proving me wrong.

(3). You also apparently have little knowledge of Calvin Coolidge's philosophy of only using Tariffs as a strategy when you basically are having your trading partners screw you over. Silent Cal viewed tariffs as just one tool in the economic toolbox to keep to keep trading partners honest.... Is Coolidge a "TACO" too?  You do not understand the intricacies negotiations, and that we finally have a POTUS who cowers to others, and is bleeding us dry.

(4) Citing click bait as a narrative?  You are better than that.  Why not quote people like Kudlow, and other economist who might have a better idea than that silly source.

(5) and using the fecal trump smiley?  That alone demonstrates your silliness on this matter.   Let the adults discuss....  okay?

And again, I have enjoyed some of your posts, but you are in an area you have little or no understanding.   Again....   you can do better.
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« Reply #137 on: June 29, 2025, 11:12:46 am »
I hate to repeat links, but anyone slamming this should give a read.  Don't forget ...  This is the last POTUS to operate the government at a surplus.

https://coolidgefoundation.org/blog/grand-old-protectionists-calvin-coolidge-and-the-full-dinner-pail/
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« Reply #138 on: June 29, 2025, 11:13:33 am »
What a joke...

(1) No one expected Trump's timeline to go as plan...  Hell, he has 50 balls to juggle in the air at once.  Several of the big actors at or near might include China, UK, Japan, and SK are within sight.  That on a weighed basis, is well over 50% of our trade volume.   So just what do you freakin' want ....Magic?  Yes, Trump infers Bravado, but that is part of the charm, and part of strong leadership.  When I was a Manager at a Plant, I'd set almost impossible goals, so that the team was energized to move mountains.  Trump does the same.

(2) Very telling you use the dim and liberal "TACO" bullshit meme that the dims parrot.   Are you one of them?  Did Trump "TACO" last week with Iran?  I used tp think TDS was a fallacy outside the socialist......., thanks....   you are proving me wrong.

(3). You also apparently have little knowledge of Calvin Coolidge's philosophy of only using Tariffs as a strategy when you basically are having your trading partners screw you over. Silent Cal viewed tariffs as just one tool in the economic toolbox to keep to keep trading partners honest.... Is Coolidge a "TACO" too?  You do not understand the intricacies negotiations, and that we finally have a POTUS who cowers to others, and is bleeding us dry.

(4) Citing click bait as a narrative?  You are better than that.  Why not quote people like Kudlow, and other economist who might have a better idea than that silly source.

And again, I have enjoyed some of your posts, but you are in an area you have little or no understanding.   Again....   you can do better.

For someone who told us to mistrust government economic data the last four years, you sure are embracing it now…lol


Again, how many trade deals do we have? Ten? Fourty? I didn’t promise 90 deals in 90 days? I read here back on April how trading partners were lining up begging for a deal but it appears that’s not the case

And the term TACO originated from Wall Street and the Financial Times, not the Democrats


Prediction…Sept will come and we’ll be no closer than we are today.

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« Reply #139 on: June 29, 2025, 11:29:39 am »
For someone who told us to mistrust government economic data the last four years, you sure are embracing it now…lol

You are uninformed.  The newsworthy reports from CPI, etc, are announced, and in the case of dims...  100% of the time the estimates (real) are adjusted downward.  That is the point I made.  When the updates are reported, they are on page 17 of the news.  So when Trump's Treasury estimates are in line, will you admit you are wrong, and eat crow?  He might be as shady as the Biden Admin, but I seriously doubt it. I will hold your feet to the fire if so.  So from my POV, it appears that you are saying Biden and Trump are the same.  Do you stand by that?

Again, how many trade deals do we have? Ten? Fourty? I didn’t promise 90 deals in 90 days? I read here back on April how trading partners were lining up begging for a deal but it appears that’s not the case

I addressed that in my last post.  Within a month, I expect that >50% of our trade paraments will be ironed out.  Only people like you think Zimbabwe's et. al;  are a critical Key Performance Indicator on this matter.  You seem more to take democratic talking points, rather than let Trump be Trump with his bluster.  Rather than viewing the big picture.

And the term TACO originated from Wall Street, not the Democrats

Hate to tell you bubba.....   but CNBC , Bloomberg, and their ilk......   are democratic lackeys.


Prediction…Sept will come and we’ll be no closer than we are today.
 
All I gotto say is that I am glad I bookmarked this thread.  Read the prior pages, and see how much has been bullshit.    See you again in September 30.  And if 50% or greater of our trade volume is covered by established deals......    I will serve you another portion of crow
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« Reply #140 on: June 29, 2025, 12:46:31 pm »


You’re doing a lot of dodging from my points. I simply posted facts. You “countered” with what you hope happens

You’re blaming myself and others for the fact that this president claimed  back in April he had countries lined up, kissing his ass, waiting to make deals.

Be honest. You would never cut Biden any slack if he made a similar claim.

You also failed to address why from 21 to 25 you told us not to trust any numbers coming from the government yet now you want us to embrace and trust them. I’ve never made a claim either way. You have.

As far as downward revision, I don’t know if you’re aware that the number of jobs created under Trump in February and March have also been downwardly revised

Third time, how many trade deals do we have. All you did was criticize the links I posted but never disputed any of the points. You’ve succeeded in making me the issue. But that’s it. Simply dismissing sources  you don’t like as “Democrat shills” without disputing the points made  is weak sauce.

Provide me a source that disputes the claims made in any of the links

BTW…how’s the dollar doing under Trump? An issue that you would be screaming into the rooftops if it was happening under Biden.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/dollar-falls-to-three-year-low-could-extend-losses-as-pressure-for-rate-cuts-grows-dc54c620?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhJzEMjCOgtde_t_drD8TesISYLaExP5n3WFYhLxzDaO7IMI-WEMShU&gaa_ts=6861701f&gaa_sig=dEuyxuc35EG1YR1IhCmaoWDAnkp5bcUCmJgVkyuPdeguO-BskT01yIzit5BkEcVhcFE-zUzaiLlQMFYqbnRhBg%3D%3D
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« Reply #141 on: June 29, 2025, 01:09:20 pm »
You’re doing a lot of dodging from my points. I simply posted facts. You “countered” with what you hope happens



Third time, how many trade deals do we have. All you did was criticize the links I posted but never disputed any of the points. You’ve succeeded in making me the issue. But that’s it. Simply dismissing sources  you don’t like as “Democrat shills” without disputing the points made  is weak sauce.

Provide me a source that disputes the claims made in any of the links

BTW…how’s the dollar doing under Trump? An issue that you would be screaming into the rooftops if it was happening under Biden.

https://www.wsj.com/finance/currencies/dollar-falls-to-three-year-low-could-extend-losses-as-pressure-for-rate-cuts-grows-dc54c620?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAhJzEMjCOgtde_t_drD8TesISYLaExP5n3WFYhLxzDaO7IMI-WEMShU&gaa_ts=6861701f&gaa_sig=dEuyxuc35EG1YR1IhCmaoWDAnkp5bcUCmJgVkyuPdeguO-BskT01yIzit5BkEcVhcFE-zUzaiLlQMFYqbnRhBg%3D%3D

I give up...  You are so much more knowledgeable of financial and economic matters than I am.     :silly:

I don't have time to waste on the terminally dense, and those who extract end results before all the data is.   The fact is today....  All financial parameters are clicking like a well oiled machine (see my first post of today on this matter.  I can't help that your TDS not only clouds your judgement, but also aligns you to your friends on the left. Did you even read the freakin' link I had to Coolidge?  I didn't think so.
 

I could have gotten every one of your talking points from any left leaning outfit. .   And your comment about the $USD?  You realize that currency is basically a commodity when describing it on the world stage.  And when even citing WSJ pundits, at least mention or cite one I have heard of.  A more accurate or honest representation would be for you to extend the graph of $USD vs., others back scaled 5, 10, or 20 years......   then give me your assessment. Right now....  The $USD is being more impacted by FED action than tariffs.

I am looking forward to hearing from you when you finally find out, that the end result might be very few invoked tariffs.  Trump has rightfully.....  (like Coolidge) used tariffs just one tool in the tool kit, and not an overreaching and primary tactic.   
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« Reply #142 on: June 29, 2025, 01:13:47 pm »
I give up...  You are so much more knowledgeable of financial and economic matters than I am.     :silly:

I don't have time to waste on the terminally dense, and those who extract end results before all the data is.   The fact is today....  All financial parameters are clicking like a well oiled machine (see my first post of today on this matter.  I can't help that your TDS not only clouds your judgement, but also aligns you to your friends on the left. Did you even read the freakin' link I had to Coolidge?  I didn't think so.
 

I could have gotten every one of your talking points from any left leaning outfit. .   And your comment about the $USD?  You realize that currency is basically a commodity when describing it on the world stage.  And when even citing WSJ pundits, at least mention or cite one I have heard of.  A more accurate or honest representation would be for you to extend the graph of $USD vs., others back scaled 5, 10, or 20 years......   then give me your assessment. Right now....  The $USD is being more impacted by FED action than tariffs.

I am looking forward to hearing from you when you finally find out, that the end result might be very few invoked tariffs.  Trump has rightfully.....  (like Coolidge) used tariffs just one tool in the tool kit, and not an overreaching and primary tactic.   


Every reply you made  to me has proven my points. You’ve hit all the buttons(left wing talking points, insulting my knowledge, TDS, ect)

But still…. nothing. Just personal insults. The tactic of the defeated

I thank ye   :hattip:
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« Reply #143 on: June 29, 2025, 01:16:47 pm »
 :shrug:

My 401k is up, quite nicely.

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« Reply #144 on: June 29, 2025, 01:20:33 pm »
:shrug:

My 401k is up, quite nicely.

As is mine

If you notice, when he threatened  tariffs on Canada this week, the SM didn’t freak out like it would have back in April. They’ve figured this guy out and his off and on tariffs and postponements

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« Reply #145 on: June 29, 2025, 01:26:14 pm »
As is mine

If you notice, when he threatened  tariffs on Canada this week, the SM didn’t freak out like it would have back in April. They’ve figured this guy out and his off and on tariffs and postponements

Well, you've done  alot of cherry picking and framing of the facts, alot of thin speculation, and a seeming gift to know what others are thinking, but not much else than academic exercise.
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« Reply #146 on: June 29, 2025, 01:32:21 pm »
Sometimes I think Trump's bull in a literal China shop routine is just a rouse to crash the market so rich people can buy it all up, but hey if it makes me richer, game on.

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Paul Krugman better look out! He has some real competition now!
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« Reply #148 on: June 29, 2025, 01:35:17 pm »
Well, you've done  alot of cherry picking and framing of the facts, alot of thin speculation, and a seeming gift to know what others are thinking, but not much else than academic exercise.
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Nah

I addressed were the name TACO originate from and why

Here’s an article for you to chew on although I’m sure you’ll just dismiss it

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2025/06/04/trumps-steel-tariff-hike-takes-effect-here-are-the-22-times-hes-changed-his-mind-on-tariffs/

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« Reply #149 on: June 29, 2025, 01:37:34 pm »
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Nah

I addressed were the name TACO originate from and why

Here’s an article for you to chew on although I’m sure you’ll just dismiss it

Yet the economy and markets defy you.

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