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35 years ago today, NASA space scientist Dr. Roy Spencer had climate exactly correct: "If someone is sure there's greenhouse warming occurring, that's more emotional than scientific because the evidence has been questionable." Over the decades, we've gone from "questionable evidence" to just plain hoax.

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The Earth warms, and the Earth cools.  It's natural.  Science and scientists are not God; they just think they are God.

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Mother Nature 500 ....   Climate Change Scammers. Zero

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The Earth warms, and the Earth cools.  It's natural.  Science and scientists are not God; they just think they are God.
Real scientists know better.

We didn't create it, we're just trying to understand it. That's a process, and every step along the way is subject to review as new information and evidence comes to light. When egos or other motives lead to skewing or tampering with the evidence or suppression of information, you're not doing science.

The more I learn, the less I know, because every answer brings new questions.

Or, as Einstein put it: "As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does the circumference of the darkness around it."
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Real scientists know better.

We didn't create it, we're just trying to understand it. That's a process, and every step along the way is subject to review as new information and evidence comes to light. When egos or other motives lead to skewing or tampering with the evidence or suppression of information, you're not doing science.

The more I learn, the less I know, because every answer brings new questions.

Or, as Einstein put it: "As the diameter of a circle of light increases, so does the circumference of the darkness around it."

Even from the algore Global Warming debacle circa 20 years or so ago. , this thing has been a left wing political red herring.  The 10% of competent climatologist spoke first against the scam, were derided, and made pariahs.  The rest saw that, and cowered in fear, and thus drank the koolaid.

We are only now starting to get details of what amounts to a false flag left wing operation, whose whole goal in the first place was wealth redistrubiton to the 3rd world.
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Even from the algore Global Warming debacle circa 20 years or so ago. , this thing has been a left wing political red herring.  The 10% of competent climatologist spoke first against the scam, were derided, and made pariahs.  The rest saw that, and cowered in fear, and thus drank the koolaid.

We are only now starting to get details of what amounts to a false flag left wing operation, whose whole goal in the first place was wealth redistrubiton to the 3rd world.
I was one of the signatories to the Petition Project http://www.petitionproject.org/  back when the Kyoto Accords were being considered.

The petition and the signatories were attacked in the media, even though there were over 31,000 of us, the lies about "consensus" and "97%" persisted in the media. Those of us who are scientists know that a majority does not determine who or what is correct; I have been the only person in the room with the right answer a few times. It is a difficult place to be, but sticking to your guns is the only way to prevail.

The 'new' element to all this is a media element driven by a profit based cabal which included the investors in the Midwest Carbon Exchange (Maurice Strong, George Soros, and Al Gore, et. al.), who stood to make trillions off speculation in 'carbon credits' IF laws were passed requiring industry to purchase those to offset emissions. In the meantime, farmers out this way gleefully cashed the checks for their 'carbon credits'...

Thankfully, that (The M.C.E.) fell through, but other ways were found to make 'going green' a lucrative goal, and there was plenty to fund the sorts of 'studies' which would indicate that that was not just the preferred action to take, but to fund a media driven effort to present that option as the only response to an anthropogenic existential threat--one which could be reduced or eliminated if you just sent your $19.00 per month and you even got the fuzzy toy or t-shirt (made by slave labor in a faraway place) to virtue signal with.

Finally, after decades, the lid is getting peeled back. 'peer review' is being reviewed, and the penumbra of censorship is being lifted as the 'alternatives' show themselves to be less than reliable when the energy is needed to be consistent--a far more imminent and greater existential threat, especially in winter, than the threat of being inundated by .01 mm/year of sea level rise.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

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C S Lewis

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Man made global warming theory is a way to implement marxism through environmentalist 'saving the planet' by grabbing on to CO2 - which directly or indirectly is connected to everything on the planet - to use as the excuse to regulate everything on the planet.

Problem is to make it work they have to make CO2 magic pixie dust that can do anything, anywhere, anytime they need to presumptively control every aspect of human existence, which means the 'theory' is all politics and zero science.
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Man made global warming theory is a way to implement marxism through environmentalist 'saving the planet' by grabbing on to CO2 - which directly or indirectly is connected to everything on the planet - to use as the excuse to regulate everything on the planet.

Problem is to make it work they have to make CO2 magic pixie dust that can do anything, anywhere, anytime they need to presumptively control every aspect of human existence, which means the 'theory' is all politics and zero science.
Well, there is a certain amount of greed involved, as the proponents of the theory seldom failed to capitalize on it.

Socialists make rules for everyone else.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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The greatest hoax in human history.
And... they almost pulled it off.

They're still fighting, but the tides have turned.
Most of them know this, but won't acknowledge it yet.

Today... the "global warming/climate change" tower they were constructing is on the verge of going down like this:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PfY32lSdXkM?t=18&feature=share