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Offline MeganC

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Since January 20, 2025 the question has arisen of what powers do Federal judges have?

First off, how many Federal judges are there?

At least 1,770 of them according to Ballotpedia.

In 2017 A Federal Bankruptcy judge from Hawaii issued a nationwide order banning President Trump's travel ban on people from hostile nations.

That this order was taken seriously speaks to the assumption that each and every one of these 1,770 judges somehow has the authority to control the country and our President.

I am going to delve into the absurd for a moment here so bear with me:

Can one of these judges prohibit Donald Trump from eating at McDonald's? The health of the President is a matter of national security, right? So why can't this kind of order be issued and litigated?

If Congress and the President refuse to fund the Federal Courts can any of these judges order Congress to appropriate and and the President to approve their funding? Why not?

These may seem absurd questions but in light of recent rulings they are well within the realm of possibilities.

The overall point here is that the judiciary is seizing a power that was never delegated to them. They have no right to issue these orders when they are outside of their mandate and well outside of Constitutional limits on their power.

It is time to address this issue and not just piecemeal. It is time to put this to an end.

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« Last Edit: March 20, 2025, 07:16:58 pm by MeganC »
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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #1 on: March 20, 2025, 07:21:05 pm »
Don't think you'll get much argument here that these judges have overstepped their authority and have been doing so since the 1930's. I just see all sort of dumb suggestions like Trump should "haul in judges" or get rid of them somehow. Only way to do that is through impeachment. I think there's a lesser test theory around reorganizing the courts might eliminate some as well, but those both request Congress.

Their power over Trump is probably limited to finding him in contempt and that remedy is also impeachment only.

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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #2 on: March 20, 2025, 07:23:16 pm »
Don't think you'll get much argument here that these judges have overstepped their authority and have been doing so since the 1930's. I just see all sort of dumb suggestions like Trump should "haul in judges" or get rid of them somehow. Only way to do that is through impeachment. I think there's a lesser test theory around reorganizing the courts might eliminate some as well, but those both request Congress.

Their power over Trump is probably limited to finding him in contempt and that remedy is also impeachment only.

Going after individual activist judges is just a game of whack-a-mole. We need a much broader solution that limits them to their specific scope.
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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #3 on: March 20, 2025, 07:25:35 pm »
Going after individual activist judges is just a game of whack-a-mole. We need a much broader solution that limits them to their specific scope.

There really isn't one, the answer is to win election so we can pick better judges. Judges are supposed to interpret law and if you keep picking shitty judges, they are going to interpret the law in whatever way they see fit.

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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2025, 07:29:25 pm »
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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2025, 08:41:59 pm »
How about not letting them interfere with the Commander in Chief when he is sorting the trannys out of the Armed Forces? Or will every missile launched in defense of a carrier group have to have some d@mned judge sign off on it?

The UCMJ should prevail in this at least.
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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2025, 08:44:59 pm »
There really isn't one, the answer is to win election so we can pick better judges. Judges are supposed to interpret law and if you keep picking shitty judges, they are going to interpret the law in whatever way they see fit.

Judges have become apolitical and not ruling according to law and the Constitution.  Judges should not try to attempt to re-write laws either and in some rulings that has become the case.

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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2025, 08:45:29 pm »
How about not letting them interfere with the Commander in Chief when he is sorting the trannys out of the Armed Forces? Or will every missile launched in defense of a carrier group have to have some d@mned judge sign off on it?

The UCMJ should prevail in this at least.

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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2025, 08:46:19 pm »
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Re: What can't a Federal judge order President Trump to do or not do?
« Reply #9 on: March 21, 2025, 04:22:01 am »
:facepalm2:

Is it my question that's the problem? Or... ???
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