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Re: NEW: Obama-Appointed Judge Orders DOGE To Restore USAID Operations
« Reply #25 on: March 21, 2025, 01:26:41 pm »
I believe they have some direct powers with the US martials, but in essence we can ignore them, and so can the Democrats, then the US will become a tinpot dictatorship maybe something like what they have in Africa, and each side will visit atrocities upon the other upon entering office. Fact is that there needs to be an independent judiciary to interpret law. Only solution is to appoint better judges. Term limits won't work, Biden appointed a shit ton of judges and so did Obama.

You're not identifying any limits on their claimed powers.

Seriously, what can't they do?
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« Reply #26 on: March 21, 2025, 01:33:17 pm »
You're not identifying any limits on their claimed powers.

Seriously, what can't they do?

1) They cannot stop an appeal.
2) Outside their courtroom, I think they are just regular citizens. Not sure what would happen if a geratriac USSC beat his/her spouse to death. Maybe Kamaji can weigh in.
3) they can be impeached. I think lesser judges don't need to go through the impeachment process. Samuel Chase remains the only USSC impeached.
4) They have no direct enforcement powers outside of their courtroom I believe. US martials might be a special case, not sure.

In terms of interpreting the law, there really is no limit AFAIK, other than their decisions can be appealed and rendered useless.

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« Reply #27 on: March 21, 2025, 01:44:48 pm »
1) They cannot stop an appeal.

Yes, they can and yes, they do.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/federal-judge-blocks-appeal-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-against-boeing-spirit-aerosystems

2) Outside their courtroom, I think they are just regular citizens. Not sure what would happen if a geratriac USSC beat his/her spouse to death. Maybe Kamaji can weigh in.

Plenty of restraining orders, search warrants, and other such legal actions have been signed/ordered by judges on golf courses, at restaurants, at their homes, and etc.

3) they can be impeached. I think lesser judges don't need to go through the impeachment process. Samuel Chase remains the only USSC impeached.

Federal judges don't impeach each other, fair enough.

4) They have no direct enforcement powers outside of their courtroom I believe. US (marshals) might be a special case, not sure.

The U.S. Marshals Service, which enforces federal court orders, is also part of the Department of Justice and ultimately not under the direct control of the Federal courts but instead under the control of the President. Agreed.
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« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2025, 01:57:03 pm »
Kamanji takes the argument to a point that says, to do anything, and we become Nazis and Communists.  I disagree.

If these radical judges have nothing better to do with their time, then I suggest they have too much time on their hands.  I say cut the number of judges in half, not necessarily targeting these judges, and tell the POS John Roberts get your house in order, or perhaps we half the remainder again.

Bouncing John Roberts might be the cure too.  He is not doing his job.  The reasons could be anything, but through the years, he sure appeared compromised to me.

I am tired of people claiming you are a Nazi if you do this or that.  Has gotten real old.  Trump is NOT a dictator. And I am tired of hearing that nonsense from the Degenerate Party too.

As long as we haven't corrected the problem  with what happened with the election in 2020, we no longer have our republic.  I believe steps need to be taken to reign in the abuse by the different people in government, starting with the judicial branch.  If Roberts is not going to do his job, and as long as radical judges believe they have license to do as they please, I say reign them in.  Cut their numbers in half.  Tell Roberts get your house in order, or we cut the number in half again.

I have worked with many attorneys, and we have become subjugated to the least honest people in America, people with no integrity, and they control all three branches of government, and frankly, I am tired of their bullsh*t!!!  So, reduce their ranks in the judicial branch, and throw the gauntlet down to Roberts and tell him to do his f***ing job!!!!!!

I am not opposed to reducing the Supreme Court to five members too.  The Dems want to expand it to gain more power, I say cut the b*st*rds down and let them know they are not in control.

I have zero respect for anyone in the judicial branch of government.  They are just as corrupt as the legislative branch.  When I saw the photo of Roberts at Epstein Island with Clinton, I say indict and toss everyone that went to Epstein Island.

You want to know who is running this corrupt government, start getting rid of the bad apples.
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« Reply #29 on: March 21, 2025, 02:09:18 pm »
1) They cannot stop an appeal.

Yes, they can and yes, they do.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/federal-judge-blocks-appeal-in-age-discrimination-lawsuit-against-boeing-spirit-aerosystems

2) Outside their courtroom, I think they are just regular citizens. Not sure what would happen if a geratriac USSC beat his/her spouse to death. Maybe Kamaji can weigh in.

Plenty of restraining orders, search warrants, and other such legal actions have been signed/ordered by judges on golf courses, at restaurants, at their homes, and etc.

3) they can be impeached. I think lesser judges don't need to go through the impeachment process. Samuel Chase remains the only USSC impeached.

Federal judges don't impeach each other, fair enough.

4) They have no direct enforcement powers outside of their courtroom I believe. US (marshals) might be a special case, not sure.

The U.S. Marshals Service, which enforces federal court orders, is also part of the Department of Justice and ultimately not under the direct control of the Federal courts but instead under the control of the President. Agreed.

Well, not sure about that case you mentioned, of course, do you think if these judges could stop Trump from appealing they sure as hell would and you know that. They can't. Really they're just slowing things down.

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« Reply #30 on: March 21, 2025, 02:20:48 pm »
Well, not sure about that case you mentioned, of course, do you think if these judges could stop Trump from appealing they sure as hell would and you know that. They can't. Really they're just slowing things down.

Which is why I don't mind when the occasional judge gets vehemently rebuked. Right or wrong, this gives all of them a necessary reminder of their place in the world.

Much like the anecdote about how in Rome a triumphant Caesar would ride into Rome to the roar of adoring crowds. And there would be three people in the chariot. Caesar, the driver, and a low-ranking slave.

When the crowd would roar for Caesar the slave would remind him, "You are just a man."

Some of these judges require such reminders.

Preferably peacefully. Otherwise like Gaius Julius Caesar they can be reminded in a different way.  333cleo
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Re: NEW: Obama-Appointed Judge Orders DOGE To Restore USAID Operations
« Reply #31 on: March 21, 2025, 03:13:31 pm »
Hey, she can Google. Cool!

Yup. I do research.  tipping hat!!

Apparently posting a Wiki page that points out uncomfortable facts is uncomfortable for some people. That's a shame.

Silencing discussion of the problem will do nothing to address the problem.

Now if the US Senate would take ownership of judicial activism and at least hold hearings on the topic then maybe we could get somewhere. But they won't.

Thus I end up asking the question of what can't these judges order the President to do or not do.

The scenario of a judge ordering the President not to eat at McDonald's comes to mind. Can the President simply ignore this order or is it supposed to be litigated when the courts have no such authority to begin with?

There need to be some well defined boundaries that these judges cannot cross. Elsewise we end up with judges inevitably seizing power over the country.

And then what? You won't be able to get a court order to stop them so what do you do?

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Re: NEW: Obama-Appointed Judge Orders DOGE To Restore USAID Operations
« Reply #32 on: March 21, 2025, 03:17:49 pm »
Pookie even sees the problem I see.



I am sorry if I am perhaps impolite in what I post but the problem remains.

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« Reply #33 on: March 21, 2025, 03:19:54 pm »
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Which is why I don't mind when the occasional judge gets shot. Right or wrong, this gives all of them a necessary reminder of their place in the world.

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« Reply #34 on: March 21, 2025, 03:20:40 pm »
You weren't merely discussing a problem, you had no problem with a judge being vehemently rebuked, and said so. Which IMO makes our forum a target of authorities. I'm with DC, please self censor that comment if you can.

Done. Feel free to edit your posts accordingly.
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« Reply #35 on: March 21, 2025, 03:28:37 pm »
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« Reply #36 on: March 21, 2025, 03:32:56 pm »
This sentence needs to be remove from all the above posts.

I am responsible for what is posted on TBR and I sure don't want some LEO swatting me....everyone please remove it...or I will

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« Reply #37 on: March 21, 2025, 06:00:31 pm »
Thank you @MeganC

You're welcome. My apologies if I sometimes say something inappropriate.

In this case I suppose it comes down to the simple paradigm of FAFO which seems to apply universally. I would prefer more people do less of the former so they can avoid more of the latter.  wink777
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« Reply #38 on: March 22, 2025, 10:37:58 pm »
Reminds me of a similar situation with Chosen Daughter   

Man she was one f'd up POS  Hadn't thought about her for years.  Hope to never think about that whore again.
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« Reply #39 on: March 23, 2025, 06:21:02 pm »
Yeah. @MeganC , just for the record, don't EVER talk about wishing death on government officials on a public forum.

I get it. It's tempting to know there's a permanent, irrevocable solution to the stubborn problem of corruption. But these are human lives, whether we like them or not. That, and the Secret Service (among other agencies that monitor this stuff) aren't going to take too kindly to that kind of talk.
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« Reply #40 on: March 23, 2025, 06:23:40 pm »
Yeah. @MeganC , just for the record, don't EVER talk about wishing death on government officials on a public forum.

I get it. It's tempting to know there's a permanent, irrevocable solution to the stubborn problem of corruption. But these are human lives, whether we like them or not. That, and the Secret Service (among other agencies that monitor this stuff) aren't going to take too kindly to that kind of talk.

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« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2025, 06:43:57 pm »
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This has already been handled via PMs.  It's Saul Goodman!   :beer:

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« Reply #42 on: March 24, 2025, 08:28:41 am »
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This has already been handled via PMs.  It's Saul Goodman!   :beer:
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« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2025, 11:16:37 am »
Yeah. @MeganC , just for the record, don't EVER talk about wishing death on government officials on a public forum.

I get it. It's tempting to know there's a permanent, irrevocable solution to the stubborn problem of corruption. But these are human lives, whether we like them or not. That, and the Secret Service (among other agencies that monitor this stuff) aren't going to take too kindly to that kind of talk.

Since your post remains unedited and since the topic is not locked then pardon me for needing to respond to it.

What I said was: Which is why I don't mind when the occasional judge gets ****.

This is not the same as encouraging anyone to do anything or saying that I want it to happen.

Likewise, I don't mind when ghetto rats hurt themselves doing their idiotic 'sideshows'. I don't mind when the Russians suffer due to a war that they started. I don't mind when people who burn Tesla dealerships get sent to prison for ten years. FAFO.

And again, pardon me if I do not worship at the altar of the black robed priests of the Almighty Courts. I guess I missed the part of the Constitution that set them apart as more equal than anyone else.

I'll also restate that if the Senate had the balls to hold these people to account with at least the minimum effort of holding hearings into their behavior then that would help get things under control.

Instead the Senate defers to these unelected Democrat activists and the problem gets worse.

And then people like myself are all  :2popcorn: when something finally happens because no one else is willing to do their bloody job and hold these people to account.

Our nation is in an extremely fragile state right now. This is illustrated by the violence coming out of the left being directed at innocent people who simply own a Tesla.

This country has already had one civil war and I'd much prefer we not need another to resolve the growing tyranny of the left and their jurists.

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« Reply #44 on: March 29, 2025, 11:03:40 am »
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As I and many others have made very clear, USAID is a front for intelligence operations to destabilize regimes and undermine the Trump agenda.
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« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2025, 08:25:17 am »
What is interesting is the exposure of networks of judges and others who have relatives, even spouses, who are directly or indirectly making bank off the USAID teat through do-little NGOs (directly or indirectly) who are adamant about ruling against the exposure of the money trails and want desperately enough to preserve the gravy train that they do not recuse themselves from the cases that they are assigned which deal with exposure of distribution of funding or halting the funding itself.

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« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2025, 11:57:24 am »
What is interesting is the exposure of networks of judges and others who have relatives, even spouses, who are directly or indirectly making bank off the USAID teat through do-little NGOs (directly or indirectly) who are adamant about ruling against the exposure of the money trails and want desperately enough to preserve the gravy train that they do not recuse themselves from the cases that they are assigned which deal with exposure of distribution of funding or halting the funding itself.

It's like a map of one section of the deep state.

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« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2025, 03:07:55 pm »
What is interesting is the exposure of networks of judges and others who have relatives, even spouses, who are directly or indirectly making bank off the USAID teat through do-little NGOs (directly or indirectly) who are adamant about ruling against the exposure of the money trails and want desperately enough to preserve the gravy train that they do not recuse themselves from the cases that they are assigned which deal with exposure of distribution of funding or halting the funding itself.

It's like a map of one section of the deep state.

It's not just USAID that relatives of judges are making money off of. I hope as the DOJ and FBI get turned around some investigations of these judges begin. If the law has been broken they should be charged. We already know they won't recuse themselves from cases that conflict with the money making of close relatives.
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Re: NEW: Obama-Appointed Judge Orders DOGE To Restore USAID Operations
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2025, 03:09:23 pm »
What is interesting is the exposure of networks of judges and others who have relatives, even spouses, who are directly or indirectly making bank off the USAID teat through do-little NGOs (directly or indirectly) who are adamant about ruling against the exposure of the money trails and want desperately enough to preserve the gravy train that they do not recuse themselves from the cases that they are assigned which deal with exposure of distribution of funding or halting the funding itself.

It's like a map of one section of the deep state.

Are you implying that the activities of a judge's spouse affect or control the decisions that judge makes as a judge?

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« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2025, 03:51:34 pm »
This is why I do not put, BREAKING, JUST IN, NEW, or whatever like that, in the title. The original article is almost two weeks old.
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