Author Topic: Judge blocks Trump from deporting noncitizens under Alien Enemies Act, orders flights turned around (Read 396006 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** March 15, 2025, 08:59:23 pm »

Judge blocks Trump from deporting noncitizens under Alien Enemies Act, orders flights turned around

Judge James Boasberg ordered the government to turn around deportation flights.
ByKatherine Faulders, Armando Garcia, Emily Chang, and Peter Charalambous
March 15, 2025, 6:02 PM

"Flights are actively departing and plan to depart. I do not believe that I am able to wait any longer," Boasberg said.

He also ordered the Trump administration to immediately turn around two planes carrying noncitizens if they are covered by his order, including one that potentially took off during a break in the court's hearing.

"You shall inform your clients of this immediately any plane containing these folks that is going to take off or is in the air needs to be returned to the United States," he said. "However that's accomplished, turning around the plane, or not embarking anyone on the plane…this is something that you need to make sure is complied with immediately."

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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-expected-invoke-wartime-alien-enemies-act-carry/story?id=119769090&cid=social_twitter_abcn

Wingnut · « **Reply #1 on:** March 15, 2025, 09:01:54 pm »

LOL. What a putz.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #2 on:** March 15, 2025, 09:30:50 pm »

And if the plane has bingo fuel? Either it has to travel to its destination, or it isn't getting back.

This putz has handed down a bunch of Leftist rulings, this is nothing new.
A troublesome wart on the ass of jurisprudence.

mountaineer · « **Reply #3 on:** March 15, 2025, 09:55:49 pm »

So much for an executive branch, not to mention separation of powers.
Maybe these criminals should be dropped off at the judge's house.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2025, 08:59:21 am »

Bondi Slams ‘DC Trial Judge’ Who Blocked Trump Using Alien Enemies Act to Deport Tren de Aragua

Attorney General Pam Bondi criticized a federal judge who blocked the deportations of suspected members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua (TdA) after President Donald Trump invoked the 1798 Alien Enemies Act.

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/15/bondi-slams-dc-trial-judge-who-blocked-trump-using-alien-enemies-act-to-deport-tren-de-aragua/

Wingnut · « **Reply #5 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:11:22 am »

Looks like those planes did not turn around. What you gonna do now Judgie?

mountaineer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:25:24 am »

The Associated Press
@AP
A federal judge halts deportations under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, an 18th century law that Trump invoked against a Venezuelan gang, just hours earlier.
From apnews.com
7:23 PM · Mar 15, 2025

You know what else was written in the 18th century? The U.S. Constitution - which I assume AP writers believe is as unimportant as the Alien Enemies Act.

mountaineer · « **Reply #7 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:28:32 am »

Western Lensman
@WesternLensman
Trump flying a planeload of foreign terrorists out of the country: Illegal
Biden flying planeloads of illegals into the country: No problem
11:52 PM · Mar 15, 2025

American Girl · « **Reply #8 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:59:23 am »

Excerpt:
A federal judge tried to slam the brakes on President Donald Trump’s deportation juggernaut, but El Salvador’s President Nayib Bukele just delivered a knockout punch that’s got Trump supporters cheering—and the left reeling. On Saturday, U.S. District Judge James Boasberg, an Obama appointee, blocked Trump from using the 18th-century Alien Enemies Act to deport alleged Venezuelan Tren de Aragua gang members without hearings, ordering any flights carrying them back to the U.S., per the New York Post and Washington Post. The ruling came after civil rights groups challenged Trump’s late-night order to expedite removals, with Boasberg claiming “flights are actively departing” and demanding an immediate halt. Trump, expanding the order nationwide, is expected to appeal, as this activist judge’s move screams deep-state resistance.

Lmao, Nayib trolling corrupt judges just made my day.

It’s embarrassing when foreign leaders show more common sense about U.S. security than our own judges.

https://www.rightjournalism.com/breaking-federal-judge-orders-trumps-deportation-flights-turned-around-but-el-salvadors-president-just-shut-him-down/

GtHawk · « **Reply #9 on:** March 16, 2025, 12:45:55 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on March 16, 2025, 09:25:24 am

The Associated Press
@AP
A federal judge halts deportations under the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, an 18th century law that Trump invoked against a Venezuelan gang, just hours earlier.
From apnews.com
7:23 PM · Mar 15, 2025

You know what else was written in the 18th century? The U.S. Constitution - which I assume AP writers believe is as unimportant as the Alien Enemies Act.

Was the law Trump is using ever revoked? If not I don’t see what the problem is, these people are illegal aliens, committing terrorist acts among the run of the mill murders, mayhem, rapes, slavery, and drug dealing. They seem to be exactly the type envisioned by those who created the law.

Bigun · « **Reply #10 on:** March 16, 2025, 12:52:56 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on March 16, 2025, 12:45:55 pm

Was the law Trump is using ever revoked? If not I don’t see what the problem is, these people are illegal aliens, committing terrorist acts among the run of the mill murders, mayhem, rapes, slavery, and drug dealing. They seem to be exactly the type envisioned by those who created the law.

There is no problem other than a bunch of pissant district court judges who think they are kings.

rangerrebew · « **Reply #11 on:** March 16, 2025, 01:03:02 pm »

Activist Nation: Judge Orders Plane Carrying Gangsters Kicked Out by Trump to Turn Around
By Bob Hoge | 12:33 AM on March 16, 2025

Tren de Aragua gang members terrorize Aurora, CO. (Credit: Public domain/Wikimedia Commons)
If you’ve been feeling lately like activist judges have decided that they run the country—and not the president—you are not alone. Leftist jurists seem to be stepping in at every turn to thwart Donald Trump’s agenda and block his orders.

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As RedState’s Ward Clark reported Saturday, the president invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 against the vicious Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua which has been terrorizing cities across the country—and then the administration sent at least one planeload of members of the “Foreign Terrorist Organization” back to their country of origin.

It didn’t take long for Obama appointed Chief U.S. District Judge James Boasberg to kneecap the effort. Not only did he issue a temporary restraining order preventing the deportation of any Venezuelans, but he also ordered that the plane (or planes; it’s unclear) return the gangsters to the U.S.

The actions against the president began even before he signed the order. Mind-boggling:

https://redstate.com/bobhoge/2025/03/16/activist-nation-judge-orders-planes-carrying-gang-criminals-kicked-out-by-trump-to-turn-around-n2186714#google_vignette

rangerrebew · « **Reply #12 on:** March 16, 2025, 01:05:35 pm »

bilo · « **Reply #13 on:** March 16, 2025, 01:33:00 pm »

Now that the administration has refused to follow the order of a federal "judge" the question is what happens going forward. The SCOTUS better get their district court "judges" under control or they are going to quickly find out that the administration isn't going to respond to any of their orders.

240B · « **Reply #14 on:** March 16, 2025, 01:46:35 pm »

OK
you have your "ruling".
How will you enforce it?

240B · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2025, 01:50:02 pm »

90%
of Americans disagree with the "Judges"

bilo · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:12:09 pm »

Quote from: 240B on March 16, 2025, 01:50:02 pm

90%
of Americans disagree with the "Judges"

If the SCOTUS doesn't intervene pretty soon and get the district judges under control the Executive Branch will just ignore them. Rubio already made it clear that he was not going to comply with a district "judge's" order when he sent the plane load of gangsters to El Salvador.

I imagine the next step is for Pres. Trump to issue and executive order to all cabinet dept. heads instructing them to ignore district court "judge's" orders unless otherwise instructed by the Attorney General.

Roberts should have listened to Alito!

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:14:30 pm »

Ignore and appeal, simple as that.

bilo · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:19:22 pm »

Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 16, 2025, 02:14:30 pm

Ignore and appeal, simple as that.

We are quickly approaching the point where all district court "judges" will be ignored and appealed.

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:19:25 pm »

These judges are outside their authority and jurisdiction, not to mention making rulings that are not based on law or legal principle, just vague proclamations of things like 'irreparable harm'.

It's time for the Admin to ignore them, appeal, and force SCOTUS to rule one way or another.

libertybele · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:40:33 pm »

US deports hundreds of Venezuelans despite court order

Planes carrying more than 200 Venezuelans deported by the US have landed in El Salvador, hours after a US judge ordered the Trump administration not to do so.

El Salvador's president, Nayib Bukele, wrote on social media that 238 members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua had arrived, along with 23 members of the international MS-13 gang, on Sunday morning.

Their arrival in the central American nation came after a federal judge blocked US President Donald Trump from invoking a centuries-old wartime law to justify the deportations - something Bukele made fun of in a later post.

"Oopsie... Too late," he said.

The move by the US to send alleged criminals from other countries to El Salvador was an arrangement US Secretary of State Marco Rubio previously called "the most unprecedented and extraordinary migratory agreement anywhere in the world".

Bukele wrote that the detainees were immediately transferred to El Salvador's Terrorism Confinement Center (Cecot) "for a period of one year", something that was "renewable" - suggesting they could be held there for longer.

"The United States will pay a very low fee for them, but a high one for us," he added.

Rubio confirmed the alleged gang members arrival in El Salvador and thanked Bukele, calling him "the strongest security leader in our region".

Hours before, on Saturday evening, US District Judge James Boasberg ordered a halt to deportations covered by Trump's proclamation, which invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.............

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-deports-hundreds-venezuelans-despite-140611527.html

jafo2010 · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2025, 02:56:37 pm »

I say have this judge investigated for connections with the cartels and gangs. No judge in his right mind would do this. And any judge that does should be remove from office.

libertybele · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:00:09 pm »

Quote from: jafo2010 on March 16, 2025, 02:56:37 pm

I say have this judge investigated for connections with the cartels and gangs. No judge in his right mind would do this. And any judge that does should be remove from office.

According to this report, they defied the judge's orders.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=555897.msg3152977;topicseen#msg3152977

mountaineer · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:27:19 pm »

Quote from: GtHawk on March 16, 2025, 12:45:55 pm

Was the law Trump is using ever revoked?

Not revoked, not found to be unconstitutional. What idiocy to believe that just because a law is old, it's irrelevant.

libertybele · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:33:01 pm »

According to this report, they defied the judge's orders.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php?topic=555897.msg3152977;topicseen#msg3152977

mountaineer · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:36:50 pm »

He ordered the plane(s) to turn around, mid-flight, without any regard for their fuel situation or anything else.

libertybele · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:45:10 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on March 16, 2025, 03:36:50 pm

He ordered the plane(s) to turn around, mid-flight, without any regard for their fuel situation or anything else.

The court order was defied...they are back in Venezuela. It's not clear whether Trump defied the order or Rubio.

mountaineer · « **Reply #27 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:48:21 pm »

White House confirms it completed the deportation flights:

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1901318588297810027

Mod2 · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2025, 03:50:59 pm »

Topics merged

mystery-ak · « **Reply #29 on:** March 16, 2025, 04:22:29 pm »

Marco Rubio, Nayib Bukele Celebrate Deportations After Judge Fails to Help Tren de Aragua Criminals

Neil Munro 16 Mar 2025

President Donald Trump’s deputies deported 261 criminal migrants to detention centers in El Salvador, beating a U.S. judge’s desperate attempt to block the international enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio thanked the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, for accepting 238 Venezuelan migrants:

We have sent 2 dangerous top MS-13 leaders plus 21 of its most wanted back to face justice in El Salvador. Also, as promised by @POTUS, we sent over 250 alien enemy members of Tren de Aragua which El Salvador has agreed to hold in their very good jails at a fair price that will also save our taxpayer dollars. President @nayibbukele is not only the strongest security leader in our region, he’s also a great friend of the U.S. Thank you!

https://twitter.com/SecRubio/status/1901252043517432213

Trump is using the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to speed the deportation of Venezuelan criminals past pro-migration lawsuits.

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https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/03/16/marco-rubio-nayib-bukele-celebrate-deportations-after-judge-fails-to-help-tren-de-aragua-criminals/

libertybele · « **Reply #30 on:** March 16, 2025, 04:29:51 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 16, 2025, 04:22:29 pm

Marco Rubio, Nayib Bukele Celebrate Deportations After Judge Fails to Help Tren de Aragua Criminals

Neil Munro 16 Mar 2025

President Donald Trump’s deputies deported 261 criminal migrants to detention centers in El Salvador, beating a U.S. judge’s desperate attempt to block the international enforcement of the nation’s immigration laws.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio thanked the president of El Salvador, Nayib Bukele, for accepting 238 Venezuelan migrants:

We have sent 2 dangerous top MS-13 leaders plus 21 of its most wanted back to face justice in El Salvador. Also, as promised by @POTUS, we sent over 250 alien enemy members of Tren de Aragua which El Salvador has agreed to hold in their very good jails at a fair price that will also save our taxpayer dollars. President @nayibbukele is not only the strongest security leader in our region, he’s also a great friend of the U.S. Thank you!

https://twitter.com/SecRubio/status/1901252043517432213

Trump is using the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to speed the deportation of Venezuelan criminals past pro-migration lawsuits.

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https://www.breitbart.com/immigration/2025/03/16/marco-rubio-nayib-bukele-celebrate-deportations-after-judge-fails-to-help-tren-de-aragua-criminals/

As much as I hate to admit it, so far Rubio is doing a good job.

bilo · « **Reply #31 on:** March 16, 2025, 04:50:13 pm »

Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 16, 2025, 02:19:25 pm

These judges are outside their authority and jurisdiction, not to mention making rulings that are not based on law or legal principle, just vague proclamations of things like 'irreparable harm'.

It's time for the Admin to ignore them, appeal, and force SCOTUS to rule one way or another.

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libertybele · « **Reply #32 on:** March 16, 2025, 05:17:05 pm »

The deportations took place. Shouldn't AG Bondi have warned the judge that his ruling was inconsequential and out of line, perhaps even illegal??

So tell me, what is AG Bondi doing these days?

mystery-ak · « **Reply #33 on:** March 16, 2025, 07:47:40 pm »

Trump thanks El Salvador for taking in alleged gang members deported from US: ‘We will not forget’
Dramatic video showed the alleged gang members being processed as they arrived at El Salvador's Terrorism Confinement Center
By Andrea Margolis , Lucas Y. Tomlinson , Bill Melugin Fox News
Published March 16, 2025 5:55pm EDT

President Donald Trump thanked El Salvador on Sunday after the country's president shared dramatic video of hundreds of alleged migrant criminals landing in Central America after being deported from the U.S.

Trump, who recently invoked the Alien Enemies Act of 1798, which allows the deportation of natives and citizens of an enemy nation without a hearing, thanked Nayib Bukele on social media.

"Thank you to El Salvador and, in particular, President Bukele, for your understanding of this horrible situation, which was allowed to happen to the United States because of incompetent Democrat leadership," Trump wrote. "We will not forget!"

Trump also referred to the apprehended migrants as "the monsters sent into our Country by Crooked Joe Biden and the Radical Left Democrats."

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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-thanks-el-salvador-taking-alleged-gang-members-deported-from-us-we-not-forget

ChemEngrMBA · « **Reply #34 on:** March 16, 2025, 07:48:43 pm »

Why, Democrats must wonder, weren't they safely transported to "Sanctuary Cities" in California or New York?
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/first-250-migrant-gang-members-from-us-arrive-in-el-salvador-where-they-ll-be-held-in-a-notorious-mega-prison/ar-AA1B1HLy?ocid=winp2fptaskbarhover&cvid=af8e91c250cf4716d1b7020b43d287c0&ei=10

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #35 on:** March 16, 2025, 08:12:37 pm »

mountaineer · « **Reply #36 on:** March 16, 2025, 08:22:55 pm »

Chuck Grassley
@ChuckGrassley
Another day, another judge unilaterally deciding policy for the whole country. This time to benefit foreign gang members If the Supreme Court or Congress doesn’t fix, we’re headed towards a constitutional crisis. Senate Judiciary Cmte taking action
9:50 AM · Mar 16, 2025

libertybele · « **Reply #37 on:** March 16, 2025, 08:59:37 pm »

Quote from: mountaineer on March 16, 2025, 08:22:55 pm

Chuck Grassley
@ChuckGrassley
Another day, another judge unilaterally deciding policy for the whole country. This time to benefit foreign gang members If the Supreme Court or Congress doesn’t fix, we’re headed towards a constitutional crisis. Senate Judiciary Cmte taking action
9:50 AM · Mar 16, 2025

Trump has the right to deport period. The judges are committing treason; they are in essence aiding our enemies and they need to be impeached. The House needs to bring up impeachment proceedings.

As for SCOTUS, I have my doubts whether or not Roberts or Barrett would side with Trump and America.

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #38 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:01:15 pm »

Quote from: Free Vulcan on March 16, 2025, 02:14:30 pm

Ignore and appeal, simple as that.

The federal courts outside of the Supreme Court are not the ultimate arbiters of the Constitution.

libertybele · « **Reply #39 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:07:38 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 16, 2025, 09:01:15 pm

The federal courts outside of the Supreme Court are not the ultimate arbiters of the Constitution.

No, but we have a SCOTUS who in Trump's first administration sided with the leftists. Some of the justices have not remained apolitical.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #40 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:25:34 pm »

I hope this means Trump will start ignoring all these judges....

libertybele · « **Reply #41 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:30:12 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on March 16, 2025, 09:25:34 pm

I hope this means Trump will start ignoring all these judges....

I believe he will. He has the authority. I still think the House needs to start impeachment proceedings on these judges. DEMS favorability is at an all time low -- perhaps the GOP could get the votes needed to impeach. It's worth trying.

Kamaji · « **Reply #42 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:36:52 pm »

The court's order is available for download and review here: https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436/gov.uscourts.dcd.278436.1.0_1.pdf

The judge's decision is the correct one under the circumstances, and a national preliminary injunction is a reasonable way to protect the claims of those who may be subject to immediate removal.

cato potatoe · « **Reply #43 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:37:29 pm »

I’m fine with putting Boasberg on the next flight.

mystery-ak · « **Reply #44 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:44:39 pm »

White House: Tren de Aragua Aliens Were Already Removed When D.C. Judge Ordered Block on Deportations

The White House said Sunday that illegal aliens who are suspected members of Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua (TdA) had already been removed from U.S. territory when a federal judge in Washington, DC, issued a ruling to block the deportations.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/03/16/white-house-slams-judges-order-block-deportations-tren-de-aragua-aliens/

Kamaji · « **Reply #45 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:57:11 pm »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 16, 2025, 09:01:15 pm

The federal courts outside of the Supreme Court are not the ultimate arbiters of the Constitution.

Uh, the only authorities that trump a federal district court are the appeals court in whose circuit it sits, or the Supreme Court, and the only authority that trumps a circuit court is the Supreme Court. So unless either a controlling circuit court or the Supreme Court has spoken on a particular issue, then the district court that issues an order or a decision is the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution.

Kamaji · « **Reply #46 on:** March 16, 2025, 09:58:06 pm »

It's fascinating how little real difference there is between most liberals and most self-labeled "conservatives" - they are all willing to violate the rule of law for the sake of their desired political ends.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #47 on:** March 16, 2025, 10:35:27 pm »

Quote from: cato potatoe on March 16, 2025, 09:37:29 pm

I’m fine with puttinzg Boasberg on the next flight.

Strapped to a wing.

Right_in_Virginia · « **Reply #48 on:** March 16, 2025, 10:38:17 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on March 16, 2025, 09:58:06 pm

It's fascinating how little real difference there is between most liberals and most self-labeled "conservatives" - they are all willing to violate the rule of law for the sake of their desired political ends.

What is the judge's objection to what the President is doing?

Free Vulcan · « **Reply #49 on:** March 16, 2025, 11:19:42 pm »

Quote from: Kamaji on March 16, 2025, 09:57:11 pm

Uh, the only authorities that trump a federal district court are the appeals court in whose circuit it sits, or the Supreme Court, and the only authority that trumps a circuit court is the Supreme Court. So unless either a controlling circuit court or the Supreme Court has spoken on a particular issue, then the district court that issues an order or a decision is the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution.

And the two courts that ruled completely opposite on the Treasury case? Who trump's who?