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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2025, 10:43:56 am »


It makes Trump look really petty and insecure ... maybe you can't see it in the US, but the World does see it, and it's pretty ugly, j/s



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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #26 on: March 04, 2025, 10:46:00 am »


It makes Trump look really petty and insecure ... maybe you can't see it in the US, but the World does see it, and it's pretty ugly, j/s



and calling the VPOTUS a bitch in his language isn't more petty and insecure?  At least be an equal opportunity accuser.
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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2025, 10:57:33 am »
Didn't like Trudeau, so put tariffs on Canada

He doesn’t like Trudeau but genuinely believes in tariffs as a way to bring jobs home.  He should have waited for the parliament to change hands and address any concerns about the trade deal in 2026, when the joint review is scheduled. 

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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2025, 11:06:26 am »
The main point was, Trump seems to be controlled by past personal grudges

Treat Ukraine badly, because of the first impeachment

Didn't like Trudeau, so put tariffs on Canada

Macron gave him that handshake years ago, so he had to do the same

Always this obsession with getting even with his perceived "enemies", and now using US policy to carry it out ... Reagan never did that!

It makes Trump look really petty and insecure ... maybe you can't see it in the US, but the World does see it, and it's pretty ugly, j/s

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Social media didn't exist during Ronald Reagan's administrations.

It's a different world today.

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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #29 on: March 04, 2025, 11:13:04 am »
The main point was, Trump seems to be controlled by past personal grudges



I've been a political junky since the '60's.  I was the 10 year old kid watching WFB.  So believe  me, when I say that personal political grudges are not a new concept.  It is just Trump is the most transparent and genuine person at it since I've watched.  It's actually refreshing, and fosters a atmosphere of trust.

Example?:  Nixon was famous for his enemies list. But he wasn't the only one. ....LBJ was even more ruthless towards his political enemies , and they all did it for that matter.  Just a whole lot more stealthly.
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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #30 on: March 04, 2025, 02:11:11 pm »
You should know, many of us don’t give a flying fig what “the World” thinks.

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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #31 on: March 04, 2025, 02:12:49 pm »
You should know, many of us don’t give a flying fig what “the World” thinks.

It is a feature, not a bug for us!
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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #32 on: March 04, 2025, 04:28:24 pm »
MAGA is turning into a cult of personality, just like Stalin and Mao had

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Let me put it this way.

What other American President would put up with being disrespected in his own office, on TV?

Z was there to sign a deal that had an implied security arrangement in that there would have been "American Interests" in the Ukraine. That effing simple.

Instead of saying thank you and proceeding with the deal, he started making demands, above and beyond that deal, virtually demanding American boots on the ground--something to which Trump has been vocally opposed. That kind of stuff is supposed to be settled beforehand, in more private circumstances, but to put the President of the United States on the spot that way on television, I am surprised he left the building under his own power.

Were I POTUS, I might have ordered him bodily evicted.

Zelensky shit in his mess kit, publicly, thinking somehow (likely under advisement from the Democrats he met with) that he could put Trump on the spot and Trump would cave.

Trump did not.

(Apparently, Zelensky just doesn't have the dirt to extort Trump or the ability to bribe him, unlike all the supposed sycophants out there who were/are making bank from the last administration--and who need to be cleaned out for their perfidy.)

It is nice to see we have a President who has enough respect for America, our People (who pay the bills), and the Office of the President to respond to that bullshit appropriately. While we are on the subject, J.D. Vance went up a couple of notches in my estimation as well.

Putin has bugger all to do with what went on in that exchange, that was Zelensky's doing (and his 'advisors').

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Re: Trump, Vance Debased U.S. Diplomacy - the World Noticed
« Reply #33 on: March 05, 2025, 03:11:42 am »
What happened in the Oval Office last week was completely on the shoulders of a whiny puke who does not know how to treat the hand that feeds him.

Trump if you have not noticed, is NOT tolerating bullsh*t this term.  Zelensky's stomping of his foot was met with a swift spanking on his posterior[figuratively speaking, and well deserved].  I am sure European leaders took great delight in it.  Zelensky is the single greatest threat to the peace process.

He may well be the catalyst that sends the USA scurrying out of NATO.  Frankly, I have had my fill with European nations that have not contributed their agreed to share to the defense of Europe through NATO, which includes about half the nations, worst being the richest, Germany.

I suspect Putin wants an honorable way out of this war.  He started a fight he cannot finish, unless he resorts to using nuclear weapons or other WMD weapons.  He wants an honorable out to save face with his own people.  What Zelensky wants is unrealistic.  He will never win the war against Russia, NEVER!!!  He will not get to restore ALL the seized land by Russia into his nation.  Not going to happen.  Trump knows it, sadly, Zelensky is clueless.

When this started, Russia may have thought they could roll on other nations, but that thought has dissipated, like steam.  They no longer have a viable ground fighting military, and it will take 5-10 years for Russia to rebuild.  And even then, there are clearly problems with the Russian system for their military.  Too damn much corruption.

And if any of you have ever been there, everything LITERALLY is corrupt in Russia.  Everything!!!!!!!!!!

Henceforth, I think Trump should announce that any nation that has not funded their share of NATO is NOT a possible recipient of Article 5.  Meaning there are no protections for the nations that fail to fund their share of NATO.  And I think it is time the USA reduce their share to an amount no greater than 10%.  We keep our finger involved just enough to have a voice.
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