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And that stunt likely  sabotaged the rare earth metals deal too. Time to go scorched earth on these traitors

Yeah, let's just declare war on the entire world and see what happens!

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Also central to the argument is this little POS Z did a campaign stop for Kamala last October.

The fact he interjected himself into our POTUS election show his lack of awareness and basic intelligence.  Not smart for Grifters to play favorites.
Anyone who did a campaign stop for Kamala...

>Had bad advice from her behind the curtain handlers,
 
>Listened to the Democrats who were in power and desperately wanted to keep the money machine going, likely they made his showing a condition of more money...

>Unfortunately, for the people of Ukraine, listened to more of those Democrat has-beens coaching him on how to deal with Trump.

They don't understand Trump, or they would have been able to get a crowbar in a crack long ago. They gave him bad advice, and it has backfired.

It would be interesting if he came back, hat in hand, (wearing a suit), and 'fessed up to following that advice and disclosed (on the record, sworn affidavit) who gave it, and then conducted himself more like someone seeking a boon than demanding he be given whatever.

I think the attitude that he could sweep aside a deal (embarrassing to Trump, personally, and to those who set the deal up) and make demands is what sank him. No CEO of a major corporation would do anything but have security remove you from the building if you approached a proposal that way.

(On the DAPL route, the original deal was reportedly for 6 million for a right-of-way to 'cut the corner' of the Reservation, but when they went to sign, tribal leaders demanded $18 million instead. The result was that the pipeline was rerouted around the Reservation (cheaper alternative) and the tribe got nothing.

Z just pulled some of that, and no amount of protests changed the result in the aforementioned case, nor will they now.)
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The next "meeting" between little z and Mr. Trump ought to be AFTER we have negotiated a settlement unilaterally with Putin.

Then, hand it to little z, and give him a Godfather-style "offa you can't refuse".

Let him sign it, or not sign it.

If he refuses...the next "offer" will be like Michael says:

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Anyone who did a campaign stop for Kamala...

>Had bad advice from her behind the curtain handlers,
 
>Listened to the Democrats who were in power and desperately wanted to keep the money machine going, likely they made his showing a condition of more money...

>Unfortunately, for the people of Ukraine, listened to more of those Democrat has-beens coaching him on how to deal with Trump.

They don't understand Trump, or they would have been able to get a crowbar in a crack long ago. They gave him bad advice, and it has backfired.

It would be interesting if he came back, hat in hand, (wearing a suit), and 'fessed up to following that advice and disclosed (on the record, sworn affidavit) who gave it, and then conducted himself more like someone seeking a boon than demanding he be given whatever.

I think the attitude that he could sweep aside a deal (embarrassing to Trump, personally, and to those who set the deal up) and make demands is what sank him. No CEO of a major corporation would do anything but have security remove you from the building if you approached a proposal that way.

(On the DAPL route, the original deal was reportedly for 6 million for a right-of-way to 'cut the corner' of the Reservation, but when they went to sign, tribal leaders demanded $18 million instead. The result was that the pipeline was rerouted around the Reservation (cheaper alternative) and the tribe got nothing.

Z just pulled some of that, and no amount of protests changed the result in the aforementioned case, nor will they now.)

Zellinsgrift just went all in with his last poker chip signing with the UK on the metals on a sell his soul 100 year  deal.  There's a lot of discussion and speculation that this deal was sealed last week, and Z's grandstanding at the WH yesterday was just a chance to poke Trump in the eye.  In any case I doubt this little puke will get anymore $ from us, or will he ever visit the WH, while a Republican is POTUS.  And i am fine with that
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NATO funding.....   Mike Lee just announced we need to exit ....   I''m for it 100%

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Many long standing alliances are falling and the world if fracturing. A very uncertain future ahead.

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Next up.....  wonder what Z would think  if Elon turned off all those starlink nodes?????

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Regardless of the disastrous meeting, this is very poor form for treating another head of state.  And there will be consequences...laugh now if you will but it won't be so funny in the future when the U.S. gets the same treatment from all the other countries that Trump is pissing off.

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Z deal with the UK

Keep in mind that the UK was the first and so far, only, European/Western Nation to declare that they are ready to send troops to Ukraine immediately.

I am sure Zelinsky was impressed by this.
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Regardless of the disastrous meeting, this is very poor form for treating another head of state.  And there will be consequences...laugh now if you will but it won't be so funny in the future when the U.S. gets the same treatment from all the other countries that Trump is pissing off.

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The only one that seems to be laughing about all of this is you. I don't find any humor whatsoever in supporting Z for years and then him turning around and spitting in our face.

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 88devil   Good for Europe!

"UKRAINE: Zelensky informs the EU that his refusal to work with the US to end the war will require them to pay $250 billion to keep the war going."

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Next up.....  wonder what Z would think  if Elon turned off all those starlink nodes?????

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"🚨BREAKING: Vladimir Putin hints at offering the U.S. a deal on rare-earth minerals, saying Russia has way more than Ukraine."


https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1895964274750820673

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"🚨BREAKING: Following the meeting between President Trump and Zelensky yesterday, Slovakia’s Prime Minister Robert Fico has declared that his country will refrain from providing financial or military assistance to Ukraine."


https://twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1895956415317160264

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The only one that seems to be laughing about all of this is you. I don't find any humor whatsoever in supporting Z for years and then him turning around and spitting in our face.

But Putin gets a complete pass, right?  Glad to know that you support THIS, "Libertybele."

How Russian soldiers ran a ‘cleansing’ operation in Bucha

https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4



If only the Ukrainians had surrendered to the Russians in March 2022, then we wouldn't be so inconvenienced now, right?

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"🚨BREAKING: Vladimir Putin hints at offering the U.S. a deal on rare-earth minerals, saying Russia has way more than Ukraine."

No surprise that you're eager to jump into bed with Putin.

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"UKRAINE: Zelensky was under the influence during the Oval Office meeting."

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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895747163273183525

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"UKRAINE: Zelensky was under the influence during the Oval Office meeting."

That's a vicious lie, if there ever was one.

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https://www.foxnews.com/world/zelenskyy-meets-british-prime-minister-keir-starmer-london-following-trump-oval-office-clash



Britsh PM enthusiastically greets Zelenskyy day after clash with Trump

Also:

"NOW - Ukraine's Zelensky has arrived at 10 Downing Street in London after being "kicked out" of the White House."

(Nice of Starmer to greet Z in the street .... Sweet hug, too.)

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https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1895890694591668241



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But Putin gets a complete pass, right?  Glad to know that you support THIS, "Libertybele."

How Russian soldiers ran a ‘cleansing’ operation in Bucha

https://apnews.com/article/bucha-ukraine-war-cleansing-investigation-43e5a9538e9ba68a035756b05028b8b4



If only the Ukrainians had surrendered to the Russians in March 2022, then we wouldn't be so inconvenienced now, right?

I'll ask you one last time; STOP with your nonsensical assumptions and accusations.  Again, you are the only one laughing at the situation; we've supplied Z with billions and he turns around and spits in our face.  Besides, how does that have any correlation to giving Putin a pass? 

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"UKRAINE: Zelensky was under the influence during the Oval Office meeting."

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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895747163273183525

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I'll ask you one last time; STOP with your nonsensical assumptions and accusations.  Again, you are the only one laughing at the situation; we've supplied Z with billions and he turns around and spits in our face.  Besides, how does that have any correlation to giving Putin a pass?

Because you're now backing a war criminal and a murderer.  Period.

THIS is what you're supporting...

In a Flash of Fire and Shrapnel, a Smiling 4-Year-Old’s Life Is Snuffed Out

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/world/europe/russia-vinnytsia-liza-dmytriyeva.html

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Because you're now backing a war criminal and a murderer.  Period.

THIS is what you're supporting...

In a Flash of Fire and Shrapnel, a Smiling 4-Year-Old’s Life Is Snuffed Out

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/07/15/world/europe/russia-vinnytsia-liza-dmytriyeva.html



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I hadn't noticed ... Coke  ... it's the real thing ....

No, just a man at war, under extreme stress, with his back against the wall and ambushed by two morons.

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God Bless President Trump and Vice President J.D. Vance and may he protect them with his angels.

Prayers up for the people of Ukraine and Russia.

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No, just a man at war, under extreme stress, with his back against the wall and ambushed by two morons.

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@Timber Rattler is becoming increasingly abusive on this forum.

There is discussion, and there is abuse. TR is not discussing anything. He may be on the wrong site?
He is simply flooding the thread with abuse because some people have a different opinion than his.
We will NEVER read a TR post which says, 'I can understand your point of view ... but (counterpoint).
It is just, YOU ARE ALL MORONS FOR NOT BELIEVING IN ME, AND WHAT I BELIEVE!
I AM RIGHT ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! END OF STORY!
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@Timber Rattler is becoming increasingly abusive on this forum.



He is unhinged. 
You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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88devil   Good for Europe!

"UKRAINE: Zelensky informs the EU that his refusal to work with the US to end the war will require them to pay $250 billion to keep the war going."

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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895994281724428522
Looks like the Z-man just got slapped in the face with some cold, hard, reality.
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@Timber Rattler is becoming increasingly abusive on this forum.

There is discussion, and there is abuse. TR is not discussing anything. He may be on the wrong site?
He is simply flooding the thread with abuse because some people have a different opinion than his.
We will NEVER read a TR post which says, 'I can understand your point of view ... but (counterpoint).
It is just, YOU ARE ALL MORONS FOR NOT BELIEVING IN ME, AND WHAT I BELIEVE!
I AM RIGHT ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! END OF STORY!

Yes, agreed, he is abusive. The 'IGNORE' feature comes in handy.

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@Timber Rattler is becoming increasingly abusive on this forum.

There is discussion, and there is abuse. TR is not discussing anything. He may be on the wrong site?
He is simply flooding the thread with abuse because some people have a different opinion than his.
We will NEVER read a TR post which says, 'I can understand your point of view ... but (counterpoint).
It is just, YOU ARE ALL MORONS FOR NOT BELIEVING IN ME, AND WHAT I BELIEVE!
I AM RIGHT ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! END OF STORY!

Can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen, bub.  This ain't Free Republic.

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Prayers up for the people of Ukraine and Russia.

To hell with Russia.

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He is unhinged.

Might want to take that plank out of your eye, Wingnut.
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pointing-down

"UKRAINE: The UK provide £2.6 billion in loans to Zelensky delaying peace…"

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https://twitter.com/amuse/status/1895945266634821676
Loans, not grants like Z wants.

UK not quite so generous in amount and demands a return of their 'investment'
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Ok, but my question is why didn't the UK step up to the plate a couple of years ago, when this particular conflict first started?
Same reason Ukraine faces a different person in the WH now.  There's been a change of guard in both the US and the UK
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That's a vicious lie, if there ever was one.

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You sure know how to not back up your assertions with real facts, don't you?
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You sure know how to not back up your assertions with real facts, don't you?

It's amazing how I keep getting demands around here to prove negatives.  How about proving that Zelensky was actually under the influence of a controlled substance, other than quoting some fringe blog or 'X' post spouting Kremlin propaganda?
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I hadn't noticed ... Coke  ... it's the real thing ....

Maybe he found Hunter Biden's secret stash. 
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@Timber Rattler is becoming increasingly abusive on this forum.

There is discussion, and there is abuse. TR is not discussing anything. He may be on the wrong site?
He is simply flooding the thread with abuse because some people have a different opinion than his.
We will NEVER read a TR post which says, 'I can understand your point of view ... but (counterpoint).
It is just, YOU ARE ALL MORONS FOR NOT BELIEVING IN ME, AND WHAT I BELIEVE!
I AM RIGHT ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG! END OF STORY!

I've ignored his ass for the past 5 pages.  He brings nothing to the discussion, but being a Zellinsky toadie. Also Anti-Trump, Anti-Vance, and spewing Uke policy that was the halmark of Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  Yeah, not much value in reading his posts.
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What do I think....

Well the term "Poop or get off the pot" would apply to me.... I don't know what to think. I am lukewarm... No love for Russia (understatement), no love for blowing money when Europe spends all it's dime on giving welfare programs instead of defense.

We have staunch positions on both sides presented here and I am still on the dang pot... I kinda would like Russia to bleed out fighting this war... I don't want it having the sea areas... and I sadly don't seem to mind a million(s) of lives lost in the process, partly because I have no real affinity connection to Ukrainians either, though they don't seem to be godless monsters like Russia. Yet they aren't exactly beacons of morality either (not sure where my utopia of such is, perhaps I live in a small world).

Trump can say "peace, peace" all he wants, but I am not sure he actually wants anything more than to wash the mess off his shoes and be done with it. Peace under Russian terms ain't exactly leaving anyone with a pleasant taste in their mouth. Debt on Americans without something in return also seems like we are funding war without any spoils, might as well wage the war. Euroweiners in their socialist 6 month wait time "free" dental plans not having stick in the fire to fight communism, with the BBC actively coddling it for decades...

Meanwhile I sit on my pot.... while someone suspects I am being rightfully called some B-name in Ukrainian... while I debate whether I heard them right or not.
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I've ignored his ass for the past 5 pages.  He brings nothing to the discussion, but being a Zellinsky toadie. Also Anti-Trump, Anti-Vance, and spewing Uke policy that was the halmark of Biden, Pelosi, and Schumer.  Yeah, not much value in reading his posts.

More like 25 pages for me but who's counting.
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It's amazing how I keep getting demands around here to prove negatives.  How about proving that Zelensky was actually under the influence of a controlled substance, other than quoting some fringe blog or 'X' post spouting Kremlin propaganda?
Why should you prove it?  Because you made the claim, not the rest of us
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As the Zelensky worship reaches fever pitch, it's worth looking back at how this "Churchill" became President.

Here's a 2019 video from RFERL on then candidate Zelensky and his oligarch backer, Ihor Kolomoisky. Don't expect our media to ever cover this. ... Kolomoisky owned the media company that broadcast Zelensky's TV show. He was the main backer of Zelensky's campaign for President. Almost immediately after Zelensky became President, Kolomoisky returned to Ukraine and managed to avoid extradition. After becoming President, Zelensky removed numerous officials who were deemed threats to Kolomoisky's interests.

The Pandora Papers leak in 2021 showed that Zelensky had a network of offshore companies holding millions in assets. The offshore companies were also used to buy pricey London real estate.  ...

https://twitter.com/mazemoore/status/1895925342264504587
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"Did you know that Biden once lost his temper with Zelensky because Zelensky wasn’t grateful enough for all the aid the U.S. was sending him?  It’s almost as if Trump isn’t the problem and Zelensky is…"

Video: 

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1896108872168825250