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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #25 on: February 17, 2025, 07:04:50 pm »
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It is how they roll @berdie .


I see what you did.  :rolling:
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2025, 07:44:47 pm »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2025, 08:12:14 am »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2025, 08:32:22 am »
Quote from: mountaineer on February 18, 2025, 08:12:14 am
Video of crash:

https://twitter.com/bonchieredstate/status/1891826945089831427

Landed too hard? The right side landing gear either collapsed or was torn off...
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2025, 09:58:50 am »
Well, one thing: Whoever built the plane built a fuselage that could withstand some intense stresses, and it remained intact. That fact alone likely saved some lives.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2025, 10:47:11 am »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2025, 11:02:49 am »

Ashley Zook expressing shock on a Delta flight flipped upside down at Toronto Pearson International Airport, taken on Feb 17, 2025 5
Ashley Zook recorded herself upside down after the crash of a Delta Air Lines flight. Snapchat / Ashley Zook


https://nypost.com/2025/02/17/world-news/toronto-delta-plane-crash-passenger-shares-picture-inside-plane/
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2025, 02:22:07 pm »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2025, 02:38:56 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on February 18, 2025, 11:02:49 am

Ashley Zook expressing shock on a Delta flight flipped upside down at Toronto Pearson International Airport, taken on Feb 17, 2025 5
Ashley Zook recorded herself upside down after the crash of a Delta Air Lines flight. Snapchat / Ashley Zook


https://nypost.com/2025/02/17/world-news/toronto-delta-plane-crash-passenger-shares-picture-inside-plane/

She reminded me of back when Disney World sold "E" tickets.  Hell of a ride there on Delta!
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2025, 08:38:55 pm »
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Landed too hard? The right side landing gear either collapsed or was torn off...

That's what I'm seeing is a hard landing. The pilot failed to flare and instead went in too hard. Pilot error.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2025, 10:53:23 pm »
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That's what I'm seeing is a hard landing. The pilot failed to flare and instead went in too hard. Pilot error.

Apparently it was very windy.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2025, 09:50:38 am »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2025, 09:53:15 am »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2025, 11:15:17 am »
Quote from: DB on February 18, 2025, 10:53:23 pm
Apparently it was very windy.

Canadian authorities are saying that there was no crosswind at the time the plane landed.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2025, 11:32:35 am »
Waiting for some definite information. Whatever the case, they broke the plane. Thankfully, everyone lived.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2025, 02:05:33 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 19, 2025, 11:32:35 am
Waiting for some definite information. Whatever the case, they broke the plane. Thankfully, everyone lived.

Well, the old adage is that any landing you can walk away from is a good one sooooo....  :yowsa:
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2025, 02:09:03 pm »
Quote from: MeganC on February 19, 2025, 02:05:33 pm
Well, the old adage is that any landing you can walk away from is a good one sooooo....  :yowsa:
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True enough, but it is always better when you can re-use the plane.
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2025, 03:09:30 pm »
 Still nothing other than this about the pilots...


Delta CEO says crew on Toronto plane that crash-landed, flipped was experienced
By Emily Crane   
Published Feb. 19, 2025, 1:35 p.m. ET

The Delta flight crew on board the jet that crash-landed and flipped over in Toronto was experienced and trained for such ordeals, the airline’s CEO said Wednesday — as he poured cold water on fears about mass Federal Aviation Agency layoffs under President Trump.

Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian praised the actions of the flight crew who quickly evacuated the plane when it crashed at Toronto Pearson International Airport on Monday, insisting they were familiar with wintry conditions there.

“All these pilots train for these conditions,” Bastian told “CBS Mornings,” adding that “there is one level of safety at Delta.”

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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #43 on: February 19, 2025, 06:36:42 pm »
The longer they hold off on telling us who the pilots are the more likely it is that they're women.
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« Reply #44 on: February 19, 2025, 07:02:05 pm »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2025, 09:20:40 am »
Delta releases new information about captain, first officer flying plane that crashed in Toronto
After Toronto plane crash, Delta says flight crew was properly certified
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Published February 21, 2025 8:35am EST


Delta Air Lines pushed back against online rumors and "misleading assertions" about the crew aboard Flight 4819, operated by its subsidiary Endeavor Air, which crashed while landing at Toronto Pearson Airport on Monday.

The flight’s captain was hired in October 2007 by Mesaba Airlines and served as an active duty captain and in pilot training and safety capacities, the airline said. Mesaba Airlines merged with Pinnacle Airlines in 2012, leading to the creation of Endeavor Air.

"Assertions that he failed training events are false. Assertions that he failed to flow into a pilot position at Delta Air Lines due to training failures are also false," the airline said in a statement Thursday.

Endeavor Air hired the first officer in January 2024, and she has been flying with the airline since she completed her training in April. According to Delta, her flight experience time exceeded minimum federal requirements. The airline also said that "assertions that she failed training events are false."

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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #46 on: February 22, 2025, 09:21:33 am »
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #47 on: February 22, 2025, 09:26:31 am »
Was the captain or the 1st ofcr at the controls? Do we know?
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #48 on: February 22, 2025, 12:10:41 pm »
Quote from: mountaineer on February 22, 2025, 09:26:31 am
Was the captain or the 1st ofcr at the controls? Do we know?
If we start getting facts how will we be able to keep throwing out speculation of DEI incompetence? Why that would almost be like reading an entire article before commenting…..something I have never done :whistle: 888mouth
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Re: Delta flight from MSP crash lands at Toronto's airport; plane flips over
« Reply #49 on: February 23, 2025, 11:08:06 am »
What we know (and don’t) about the Delta airplane crash
While some claims about the flight crew have been widely circulated, not all of them are supported by verified information. Here’s a breakdown of what has been confirmed and what remains unverified.
Author: Cosmin Dzsurdzsa
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In the aftermath of the Delta Connection Endeavor Air Flight 4819 crash at Toronto’s Pearson airport, speculation has been rampant across social media.

While some claims about the flight crew have been widely circulated, not all of them are supported by verified information. Here’s a breakdown of what has been confirmed and what remains unverified.

What’s unverified:

The identity of the pilots has been a topic of speculation online, but as of now, no official confirmation has been made. The names of the pilots have not been publicly released by Delta or Endeavor Air....

Why did the plane crash?

While the full investigation is still underway, some aviation experts and former pilots have pointed to a hard landing with a high vertical speed as the likely cause of the crash. This resulted in a right main landing gear failure, which ultimately led to the Bombardier CRJ-900 flipping on the tarmac.

Retired Navy fighter pilot Whiz Buckley told The Megyn Kelly Show that the lack of flare indicated a hard landing. ...
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