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So DOGE now has the power to overrule federal legislation?

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So DOGE now has the power to overrule federal legislation?

I can't find this anywhere else....will keep looking..
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I doubt it.
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IIRC I thought that the plans to do away with the DOE was already in the works.

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Who has power over the Department of Education?
Congress created the Department of Education, and only Congress can abolish it. Under the Executive Order, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, the President would seek to bar the Department of Education from performing functions that are not clearly outlined in any statutes.
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This isn't official as far as I can tell...just talking heads on MSNBC...
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Who has power over the Department of Education?
Congress created the Department of Education, and only Congress can abolish it. Under the Executive Order, which was first reported by the Wall Street Journal, the President would seek to bar the Department of Education from performing functions that are not clearly outlined in any statutes.

Under the Department of Education Organization Act, the department's mission is to:

*    Strengthen the federal commitment to assuring access to equal educational opportunity for every individual;

*    Supplement and complement the efforts of states, the local school systems and other instrumentalities of the states, the private sector, public and private nonprofit educational research institutions, community-based organizations, parents, and students to improve the quality of education;

*    Encourage the increased involvement of the public, parents, and students in federal education programs;

*    Promote improvements in the quality and usefulness of education through federally supported research, evaluation, and sharing of information;

*    Increase the accountability of federal education programs to the president, the Congress, and the public.

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This isn't official as far as I can tell...just talking heads on MSNBC...

Talking heads is fine, and yanking liberals' chains in fine, so long as actual actions are taken through procedures that have been established, such as the Administrative Procedures Act.

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This isn't official as far as I can tell...just talking heads on MSNBC...
A "consider the source" moment.
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Of all departments, which is most likely to get the most people all lathered up?

Without the public schools (independent of the D of Ed, really) who will warehouse....babysit...indoctrinate...EDUCATE! little 'johnny' et. al.?
Parents dependent on this State sponsored daycare are likely the largest group who can be convinced this is an attack on their lifestyles, even though the schools are run on a State and Local level, not out of D.C. (despite the edicts, programs, curricula, and policies at the Federal level).

The Left loves chaos, so Convince the Parents they will 'suffer' and wait for the sh*tstorm.
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Musk almost uses his Twitter feed as an extension of his thoughts.  Nothing remotely anything like that said by him in the past 24 hours.

MSNBC, is one entity of continuous lies.  It's about time to stop these accusations, and sue the likes of MSNBC, CNN, and CBS out of existence.
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https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/elon-musk-says-department-of-education-no-longer-exists-231453765781

Chicken shit MSNBC.....  Baseless accusations and bullshit.  They need to be sued, spitballing with no basis, sources, or proof.

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Under the Department of Education Organization Act, the department's mission is to:

*    Strengthen the federal commitment to assuring access to equal educational opportunity for every individual;

*    Supplement and complement the efforts of states, the local school systems and other instrumentalities of the states, the private sector, public and private nonprofit educational research institutions, community-based organizations, parents, and students to improve the quality of education;

*    Encourage the increased involvement of the public, parents, and students in federal education programs;

*    Promote improvements in the quality and usefulness of education through federally supported research, evaluation, and sharing of information;

*    Increase the accountability of federal education programs to the president, the Congress, and the public.

That's really beautiful and all.  Let's see how they do that with no money.  They can now call it

The Department of Education (In Name Only)

They get a padlocked building with their name on it.  And at the end of the year, the Treasury will have an extra $240 billion in it.

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That's really beautiful and all.  Let's see how they do that with no money.  They can now call it

The Department of Education (In Name Only)

They get a padlocked building with their name on it.  And at the end of the year, the Treasury will have an extra $240 billion in it.



Not if Congress has expressly directed funds to the Department. 

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Not if Congress has expressly directed funds to the Department.
 

Congress doesn't have Executive power.  They can direct the money.  But they can't spend ait.
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So DOGE now has the power to overrule federal legislation?
You might do a better job of ensuring the source of your contention is a good one
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Has it actually happened, or is MSNBC lying? Let's wait to see.
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Has it actually happened, or is MSNBC lying? Let's wait to see.

Or has Musk taken a page from the Trump playbook?  Damned ocean in context  between literal and metaphorical.
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