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Tucker has been dubbed pro-Russia by many. Apparently, Zelenskyy agrees:
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Zelenskyy unleashes angry foul-mouthed rant against ‘blogger’ Tucker Carlson
February 5, 2025 | Sierra Marlee

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy unleashed a profane rant against Tucker Carlson’s allegations that he rules like a dictator.

Zelenskyy has a bone to pick with the independent journalist who he says is working for Russian President Vladimir Putin. He also denied all allegations made against him on Piers Morgan Uncensored, saying he is doing what he believes is best for his besieged country. ...

Elsewhere in the interview, he addressed Carlson directly with a rather profane request.

“It seems to me that this journalist – I do not remember his surname, excuse me, Tucker. Yes, yes, Tucker is his name – he needs to more deeply understand what’s happening in Ukraine, to stop working for Putin, to stop licking his ass,” Zelenskyy spat. ...
Full story and video at https://www.bizpacreview.com/2025/02/05/zelensky-unleashes-angry-foul-mouthed-rant-against-blogger-tucker-carlson-1520765/
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What set VZ off:

Tucker Carlson
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A dictator is someone who ignores elections and rules by violence. Zelensky meets that definition but Piers Morgan loves him anyway.

https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1885387825555587330
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Lets see... Ukraine was invaded and nearly consumed by Russia and is in a battle for its very survival and Tucker and crew blame Zelenskyy for not having elections which are impossible to have under those circumstances. No candidate that opposes the Russians can campaign because the Russians will assassinate them. One slip up by Zelenskyy's security and he'll be dead too. How do people even vote when full on war is occurring in many of its cities.

Yet Tucker has little to say about Putin running sham elections and murdering hundreds of thousands of people. That's why Tucker can go screw himself.

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Before weighing in, I'd like Zellinsky to explain to us where the missing aid went. 

Putin's a once in a lifetime POS despot murderer, but at least that human garbage isn't spending my tax dollars.
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Before weighing in, I'd like Zellinsky to explain to us where the missing aid went. 

Putin's a once in a lifetime POS despot murderer, but at least that human garbage isn't spending my tax dollars.

You mean the missing aid that never arrived there???

It was siphoned off on its way there by Biden's deeps state.

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Tucker sucks. Remember his little propaganda blurb on how everything was perfect in Russia?

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The best was when Putin laughed in Tucker's face that it was too bad he didn't go to work at the CIA like his daddy.

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Tucker sucks. Remember his little propaganda blurb on how everything was perfect in Russia?

I think Tucker is great!  I don't listen to him all the time, but  his speech at the GOP convention was so off the cuff and he was in such awe, I found him to be refreshing.  He has grown on me since I watched his first newscast and I like him.

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I think Tucker is great!  I don't listen to him all the time, but  his speech at the GOP convention was so off the cuff and he was in such awe, I found him to be refreshing.  He has grown on me since I watched his first newscast and I like him.

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Love Tucker!  tipping hat!!

As far as Z unleashing his foul mouth  -- he needs to take a back seat and remember who's buttering his bread!

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Lets see... Ukraine was invaded and nearly consumed by Russia and is in a battle for its very survival and Tucker and crew blame Zelenskyy for not having elections which are impossible to have under those circumstances. No candidate that opposes the Russians can campaign because the Russians will assassinate them. One slip up by Zelenskyy's security and he'll be dead too. How do people even vote when full on war is occurring in many of its cities.

Yet Tucker has little to say about Putin running sham elections and murdering hundreds of thousands of people. That's why Tucker can go screw himself.
we here in America have held elections every four years including during the Civil War. I don't want to hear it.

Let's propose a deal: he resigns, his successor gets whatever is needed to stabilize the border at 1991 lines. But he won't agree to that.
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we here in America have held elections every four years including during the Civil War. I don't want to hear it.

Let's propose a deal: he resigns, his successor gets whatever is needed to stabilize the border at 1991 lines. But he won't agree to that.

First, Ukraine isn't a civil war. Second, no confederate state got a vote.

If the US looked like Ukraine today there would be no vote here either. It's in a fight for its very existance.

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we here in America have held elections every four years including during the Civil War.

Uh...the Confederate States didn't get to vote in that election.
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If there were an election in Ukraine, VZ might not win. I'm trying to find a more recent poll, but ...
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Zaluzhnyi leads Ukrainian presidential poll
The former Commander-in-Chief of Ukraine's armed forces Valerii Zaluzhnyi leads the polls by wide margin as Ukraine’s next presidential election with double President Zelenskiy's support.
By bne IntelliNews November 26, 2024

Valerii Zaluzhnyi, Ukraine's ambassador to the UK and former Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces, has emerged as the frontrunner by a wide margin in potential scenarios for Ukraine’s next presidential election, according to polling released on November 26 by the Social Monitoring Centre.

The survey, conducted between November 15 and 21, marks the first assessment of voter preferences since Russia’s full-scale invasion in February 2022.

Zaluzhnyi garnered 27% of support when respondents were asked whom they would vote for if an election were held next Sunday (November 24). Current President Volodymyr Zelenskiy followed with 16%, while former President Petro Poroshenko secured 7%. Other notable figures included Kyrylo Budanov, head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, with 6%, and ex-Speaker of Parliament Dmytro Razumkov with 4%.

When respondents were allowed to select a secondary candidate, Zaluzhnyi retained 15% of preferences, followed by Budanov with 12% and Zelenskiy with 6%. ...
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If there were an election in Ukraine, VZ might not win. I'm trying to find a more recent poll, but ...https://www.intellinews.com/zaluzhnyi-leads-ukrainian-presidential-poll-355220/

Could be a case of be careful what you wish for because Valerii Zaluzhnyi is far more aggressive than Zelensky.  He won't surrender at any cost.

Remember him?  Zelensky canned him after his much vaunted counterattack stalled after only 5 days.

Ukraine’s former armed forces chief endorses ‘victory plan’ in first speech since his dismissal

https://apnews.com/article/victory-plan-ukraine-russia-war-zelenskyy-zaluzhnyi-5634fc4a1c17a04b09a64c17b98c6512



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First, Ukraine isn't a civil war. Second, no confederate state got a vote.

If the US looked like Ukraine today there would be no vote here either. It's in a fight for its very existance.

Eh... we had elections all during WW2.

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As far as Z unleashing his foul mouth  -- he needs to take a back seat and remember who's buttering his bread!

Poland?  Denmark?  France?  Norway?  Estonia?  At least when those countries announce aid going to Ukraine, the aid actually goes to Ukraine.
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Poland?  Denmark?  France?  Norway?  Estonia?  At least when those countries announce aid going to Ukraine, the aid actually goes to Ukraine.

So your saying that Z hasn't received any money or munitions from the U.S.??? 

It likely isn't the amount that the Biden administration has claimed, but Z has gotten help from the U.S.  If he wants that to continue, he needs to zip it.

Trump has made contact with Z and we'll see what happens from there.  Trump is NOT responsible for what Biden has done, period.

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Could be a case of be careful what you wish for because Valerii Zaluzhnyi is far more aggressive than Zelensky.  He won't surrender at any cost.

Remember him?  Zelensky canned him after his much vaunted counterattack stalled after only 5 days.

Ukraine’s former armed forces chief endorses ‘victory plan’ in first speech since his dismissal

https://apnews.com/article/victory-plan-ukraine-russia-war-zelenskyy-zaluzhnyi-5634fc4a1c17a04b09a64c17b98c6512



I don't wish any ill will on Ukraine and am hopeful that some type of resolution is agreed upon by Russia and Ukraine.  Who Ukraine's leader is not our call.

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So your saying that Z hasn't received any money or munitions from the U.S.??? 

Uh, no.  There isn't anything in my post that even remotely suggests that.
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It likely isn't the amount that the Biden administration has claimed, but Z has gotten help from the U.S.  If he wants that to continue, he needs to zip it.

So US military aid should be conditional on Zelenskiy only saying nice things about Tucker Carlson.
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So US military aid should be conditional on Zelenskiy only saying nice things about Tucker Carlson.
What? That wasn't even implied.
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What? That wasn't even implied.

The topic of this thread is 'Zelenskiy said something bad about Tucker Carlson.

@libertybele  offered this conditional if-then statement:  "If he wants that to continue, he needs to zip it".  Or in other words, 'If Zelenskiy wants US Aid, then he needs to restrain himself from saying anything'.  This conditional statement was a direct response to Zelenskiy's criticism of Carlson.

So this absolutely positively was implied, @mountaineer .  Tell me what am I missing here?
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Eh... we had elections all during WW2.

Eh... I don't remember bombed out cities, 20% of the country occupied by a foreign army, large number of dead citizens and a large portion of the country's remaining citizens being refugees in other countries...

WTH.

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Before weighing in, I'd like Zellinsky to explain to us where the missing aid went. 

95% of it never left the USA and most of that never left New York City's financial district. This has been stated over and over again in this topic.

Myself, I have long criticized the Biden regime for sending weapons and ammunition to Ukraine that were already slated for disposal and then charging the American taxpayer for them as if they were new.

Worse, the money for the replacement weapons and ammo had already been appropriated so what the hell was all of this money for? Because it sure as hell wasn't for Ukraine or our armed forces.
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Tell me what am I missing here?
Perhaps what has been mentioned on other recent threads and posts about Ukraine, that Zelenskyy complains about Trump talking to Putin, and wants more money from other nations. No denying, the first post of the thread is his criticism of Carlson, specifically, but - and I don't presume to speak for her - I don't think that's what she was referring to. VZ can say whatever he wants about Tucker, whether or not true.
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Perhaps what has been mentioned on other recent threads and posts about Ukraine, that Zelenskyy complains about Trump talking to Putin, and wants more money from other nations. No denying, the first post of the thread is his criticism of Carlson, specifically, but - and I don't presume to speak for her - I don't think that's what she was referring to. VZ can say whatever he wants about Tucker, whether or not true.

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Perhaps what has been mentioned on other recent threads and posts about Ukraine, that Zelenskyy complains about Trump talking to Putin, and wants more money from other nations. No denying, the first post of the thread is his criticism of Carlson, specifically, but - and I don't presume to speak for her - I don't think that's what she was referring to. VZ can say whatever he wants about Tucker, whether or not true.

Well that's a different perspective.  But if Zelenskiy's silence was a condition for US aid, then it's the US that is in default on that agreement.  Fully $100 billion earmarked as 'Ukraine aid' that never made it inside the Ukrainian border.  Agreements are a two way street.  If the US reneged on their end, I don't see why Ukraine should abide by theirs.

Apologies for any confusion.  Again, the topic was Zelenskiy badmouthing Carlson.  And in that he is totally justified.  But he's was never our puppet, nor should he be.  And the Ukrainian President shouldn't be Russia's puppet either.
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Eh... we had elections all during WW2.
Yeah, thousands of miles from the front. Not the same.
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Speaking of elections, there is a chilling parallel between Putin's treatment of Ukraine in 2014 and Hitler's treatment of Yugoslavia in 1941.
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So US military aid should be conditional on Zelenskiy only saying nice things about Tucker Carlson.

Come on.  That's not implied nor what I stated.  Z should be appreciative of the help that he's gotten from the U.S. period.  If it weren't for the U.S. pouring billions of dollar in aid and in munitions, Ukraine would be pretty bad off.

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The topic of this thread is 'Zelenskiy said something bad about Tucker Carlson.

@libertybele  offered this conditional if-then statement:  "If he wants that to continue, he needs to zip it".  Or in other words, 'If Zelenskiy wants US Aid, then he needs to restrain himself from saying anything'.  This conditional statement was a direct response to Zelenskiy's criticism of Carlson.

So this absolutely positively was implied, @mountaineer .  Tell me what am I missing here?

No.  What I am implying is that Z shouldn't complain about the help that the U.S. has given him, nor the aid that he continues to get.  That is all.  Zip it perhaps was the wrong wording.  Z should be able to speak freely, but complaining about aid I find offensive.

We cannot control Putin. We certainly couldn't control what Biden has done with any agreements, nor money not making it to Ukraine.

We've had a regime change and hopefully we'll see some sort of resolution between Putin and Ukraine.

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Speaking of elections, there is a chilling parallel between Putin's treatment of Ukraine in 2014 and Hitler's treatment of Yugoslavia in 1941.

Conflict in the area has been going on for decades.  There's no telling what Putin's next move is, though I would like to think that Trump may be able to somehow contain Putin.  :shrug:

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VZ can say whatever he wants about Tucker, whether or not true.

He can, because he’s in charge.  I am sure he would like to throw Tucker in prison. 

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No.  What I am implying is that Z shouldn't complain about the help that the U.S. has given him, nor the aid that he continues to get.  That is all.

Zelenskiy has never complained about the aid he is getting.  He has complained about the aid he is not getting.  Imagine sitting in Kyiv, or Kharkiv, or Odesa, Dniepro, Lviv, Chasiv Yar, Vovchansk, Bakhmut, etc., listening to the American President announce aid packages going to Ukraine that weren't actually going to Ukraine.  I'd be pissed, too.  And I damn well wouldn't keep my mouth shut about it.  Biden was out there collecting political points from his supporters for his solid support of Ukraine while diverting those funds elsewhere.  Want to guess how $1.5 billion showed up in Kamala Harris's campaign chest in 48 hours?  Ukraine aid.
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Yeah, thousands of miles from the front. Not the same.
and the War of 1812, when the Brits literally burned down the White House.
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and the War of 1812, when the Brits literally burned down the White House.

Not even close.

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and the War of 1812, when the Brits literally burned down the White House.

That was in 1814.  The war was over six months later.
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and the War of 1812, when the Brits literally burned down the White House.

Old joke: Britain lost the War of 1812 when no matter what they did they couldn't force the USA to take Quebec.  :whistle:
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Zelenskiy has never complained about the aid he is getting.  He has complained about the aid he is not getting.  Imagine sitting in Kyiv, or Kharkiv, or Odesa, Dniepro, Lviv, Chasiv Yar, Vovchansk, Bakhmut, etc., listening to the American President announce aid packages going to Ukraine that weren't actually going to Ukraine.  I'd be pissed, too.  And I damn well wouldn't keep my mouth shut about it.  Biden was out there collecting political points from his supporters for his solid support of Ukraine while diverting those funds elsewhere.  Want to guess how $1.5 billion showed up in Kamala Harris's campaign chest in 48 hours?  Ukraine aid.

So.... most of us long ago figured out that the Biden family has been profiting off of Ukraine before and after he became president.  Z can spew a foul mouthed rant all he wants, that's not going to change the past.

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Z can spew a foul mouthed rant all he wants, that's not going to change the past.

Now you're circling back to Tucker Carlson, the target of said "foul mouthed rant".
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Z can say whatever he pleases about Tucker as far as I'm concerned. Tucker is a media personality, nothing more. Foul mouthed? Perhaps. But that  seems to be the modus operandi in today's world. Not that I like it.

As far as I can see, if he is concerned about the US brokering a "deal" with Russia and withdrawing support why would he not try to form a new protective coalition? And why would he not make the point that the aid that has been received from the US is not what is being reported?

The fact remains that Ukraine was invaded and has suffered devasting loss. But is still standing against a much stronger adversary. Incredible in my mind. Biden offered him a plane ticket out and he refused. These people are fighters and I will be devastated if Trump throws them under the bus.

Elections? Puulleeeze! Our country has (thankfully) never had bombs raining down on it. How do  you have elections under those conditions? I read about the voter turnout in our country and it is abysmal. On a bright, sun shiny safe day. So the execution of elections in Ukraine would be close to impossible. I could be totally wrong, but Z may not be too sorry to get out of the hot seat, given there was a proper election.

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95% of it never left the USA and most of that never left New York City's financial district. This has been stated over and over again in this topic.

Myself, I have long criticized the Biden regime for sending weapons and ammunition to Ukraine that were already slated for disposal and then charging the American taxpayer for them as if they were new.

Worse, the money for the replacement weapons and ammo had already been appropriated so what the hell was all of this money for? Because it sure as hell wasn't for Ukraine or our armed forces.
Right. Everyone is equating Zelenesky with Poroshenko.Maybe Zelenesky has skimmed a little, maybe not, but that would be chump change compared to what Sniffy Joe's minions got. He got aging munitions at top dollar, which we got the tab for. Where the "humanitarian" aid went is a question for Elon's crew, but my bet is that was siphoned off through a net of NGOs.
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Tucker used to be one of the most powerful conservative voices out there. 

Not sure what has gotten into him, since he left Fox. 
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Tucker used to be one of the most powerful conservative voices out there. 

Not sure what has gotten into him, since he left Fox.

IMO, he's looking at Joe Rogan's success.  There's enough a niche out there to support more than Rogan. 

Why limit your market demographic to MAGA Land? 
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