Trump wants US to take ownership of Gaza and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere

[Timber Rattler]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-netanyahu-washington-ceasefire-1c8deec4dd46177e08e07d669d595ed3

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he wants the U.S. to take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere.

“We will own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site,” Trump said a start of a joint news conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.

Trump added the U.S. would level destroyed buildings and “create an economic development that will supply unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area.”

The comments came after Trump earlier suggested that displaced Palestinians in Gaza be “permanently” resettled outside the war-torn territory.

EXCERPT

So was this part of the plan?   

[Wingnut]

https://apnews.com/article/trump-netanyahu-washington-ceasefire-1c8deec4dd46177e08e07d669d595ed3

EXCERPT

So was this part of the plan?   

Don't over think it.  Let the MSM do that.  It is what they do so well.  LOL.

[rustynail]

Will there be time shares in NewTrumpland?

[Wingnut]

Will there be time shares in NewTrumpland?

Disney over Gaza.  Minaret castle. 

[mystery-ak]

Desert Rivera.....We have Musk cleaning out our government over wasteful expenses to fund this...is what the Dems will be saying...in 3 2 1...

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1886927874533548173

[mystery-ak]

Justin Amash
@justinamash
If the United States deploys troops to forcibly remove Muslims and Christians—like my cousins—from Gaza, then not only will the U.S. be mired in another reckless occupation but it will also be guilty of the crime of ethnic cleansing. No American of good conscience should stand for this.
6:38 PM · Feb 4, 2025

[Wingnut]

Justin Amash
@justinamash
If the United States deploys troops to forcibly remove Muslims and Christians—like my cousins—from Gaza, then not only will the U.S. be mired in another reckless occupation but it will also be guilty of the crime of ethnic cleansing. No American of good conscience should stand for this.
6:38 PM · Feb 4, 2025

The 1st of many pearl clutchers.  Stay tuned ...more to come.   

God I love the meltdown!

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1886937348413251931

[libertybele]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1886937348413251931

My first question is can he legally do this without the consent of Congress?   Does this fall under the War Powers Act??

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/1886946636833669603

[dfwgator]

Hopefully this is nothing more than a trial balloon.

[Wingnut]

https://twitter.com/TreyYingst/status/1886946636833669603

Take an Uber.  Plus no congestion pricing.

[mystery-ak]

Witkoff: Full Gaza Rebuild Can’t Begin for at Least a Decade, Can’t Be Finished Until at Least 15 Years from Now

Ian Hanchett 4 Feb 2025
2:58

https://youtu.be/qTiuqV2ItoI?si=1S-ip1nTqmxQlTwN


During an interview aired on Tuesday’s broadcast of Newsmax TV’s “The Record,” U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff stated that a full-on rebuilding of Gaza “can’t begin before somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 12 years, which puts the finishing touches on Gaza, pursuant to some sort of very credible master plan, at the 15 to 20-year mark.”

Witkoff said, “The phase three talks about a reconstruction of Gaza over a five-year period of time. That’s just an impossibility. It can never happen. We estimate that just cleaning out the unexploded ordinance is probably somewhere in the neighborhood of a two-year job. So, it’s almost as if you’ve got a minefield in the Gaza Strip today. Then, after that, you’ve got a cleanup effort from everything that was demolished, and that’s probably at least another three years. After that, you’ve got to x-ray, basically, take a subterranean look and understand what’s left of the stone that’s down below. It’s sort of like Swiss cheese down there. You’ve got tunnels that are crisscrossing it, and that’s degraded the foundations down there and probably has degraded where all the utility lines are working. So, from a real estate perspective, before you can figure out a master plan, you’ve got to understand what exists on the subterranean level. And my opinion is that that’s going to take years in the making. So, we estimate that a full-on Gaza build can’t begin before somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 12 years, which puts the finishing touches on Gaza, pursuant to some sort of very credible master plan, at the 15 to 20-year mark. So, the notion that we can do anything about Gaza in the immediate future, it just can’t happen. And I actually don’t believe and I think it’s irresponsible to be talking — to be letting people move back there in large amounts, because there are many dangerous conditions there.”

Host Greta Van Susteren then stated, “And then you’ve got the other problem…who’s going to govern Gaza? That’s the other problem. Certainly — Israel is certainly not going to let Hamas rebuild and govern Gaza. So, at some point, there’s got to be that discussion.”

Witkoff responded, “Well, I agree with you. Greta, there’s not a lot to govern there today. So, that’s kind of my point. That protocol agreement that I’m — that I have made reference to assumed a five-year reconstruction effort. That’s just preposterous. It’s — I’d call it wishful thinking. … Now, beyond that, and the president has said this, whoever’s going to govern can’t be a part of a terrorist organization, and Hamas is. So, we take direction from President Trump. He is the President and he is our — he’s my boss. And there’s not going to be — we’re just not going to have a governing council that includes Hamas.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/02/04/witkoff-full-gaza-rebuild-cant-begin-for-at-least-a-decade-cant-be-finished-until-at-least-15-years-from-now/

[Wingnut]

Witkoff: Full Gaza Rebuild Can’t Begin for at Least a Decade, Can’t Be Finished Until at Least 15 Years from Now

Ian Hanchett 4 Feb 2025
2:58

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTiuqV2ItoI&t=210s&ab_channel=Ipwwan%21


During an interview aired on Tuesday’s broadcast of Newsmax TV’s “The Record,” U.S. Special Envoy to the Middle East Steve Witkoff stated that a full-on rebuilding of Gaza “can’t begin before somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 to 12 years, which puts the finishing touches on Gaza, pursuant to some sort of very credible master plan, at the 15 to 20-year mark.”

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025/02/04/witkoff-full-gaza-rebuild-cant-begin-for-at-least-a-decade-cant-be-finished-until-at-least-15-years-from-now/

It will still be rebuilt faster than the cities destroyed in th LA fires.

[DB]

Nuts!

[Cyber Liberty]

I'm going to say right now I don't like this idea.  It's not up to the USA to clean out the Canaanites, Israel had that call.

[libertybele]

I'm going to say right now I don't like this idea.  It's not up to the USA to clean out the Canaanites, Israel had that call.

As I asked up thread, can President Trump legally do this without the consent of Congress??

[DB]

I'm going to say right now I don't like this idea.  It's not up to the USA to clean out the Canaanites, Israel had that call.

I'm speechless and shocked... WTF...

[Cyber Liberty]

As I asked up thread, can President Trump legally do this without the consent of Congress??

Yes, but nobody has cared about that for longer than I've been alive.

[DB]

Perhaps, it is thin, that this is extreme diplomacy. That Hamas has to release everyone now and exit Gaza or we are coming and will remove you. Your choice.

[libertybele]

I'm speechless and shocked... WTF...

With talks of the U.S. taking over Greenland, making Canada, Mexico, states .... this may be Trump unhinged as I have been concerned about. 

I think he should take care of his own house first .... border wall, illegal immigration, draining the swamp, holding the Joe administration accountable, etc. 

Perhaps he's taking on too much at one time?  He has some really good people in place, but all it's going to take is one defector or  someone's incompetency and I'm afraid it will have a domino affect. 

Just my  opinion.

[DB]

With talks of the U.S. taking over Greenland, making Canada, Mexico, states .... this may be Trump unhinged as I have been concerned about. 

I think he should take care of his own house first .... border wall, illegal immigration, draining the swamp, holding the Joe administration accountable, etc. 

Perhaps he's taking on too much at one time?  He has some really good people in place, but all it's going to take is one defector or  someone's incompetency and I'm afraid it will have a domino affect. 

Just my  opinion.

I'm falling back to my post just above yours. Power diplomacy to get the hostages back and remove Hamas without actually doing much of anything.

[libertybele]

I'm falling back to my post just above yours. Power diplomacy to get the hostages back and remove Hamas without actually doing much of anything.

We'll see what transpires.  Obviously whatever has been planned, Bibi is in agreement.

[Wingnut]

Nuts!

General McAuliffe, is that you?

[DB]

General McAuliffe, is that you?

You got it.

[jafo2010]

Trump said the U.S. would take ownership of the Gaza Strip and redevelop it after Palestinians are resettled elsewhere and turn the territory into “the Riviera of the Middle East” in which the “world’s people”— including Palestinians — would live. He offered no detail about what authority the U.S. would use to take the land and develop it.


“We’ll make sure that it’s done world class,” Trump said. “It’ll be wonderful for the people — Palestinians, Palestinians mostly, we’re talking about.”

Egypt, Jordan and other U.S. allies in the Mideast have cautioned Trump that relocating Palestinians from Gaza would threaten Mideast stability, risk expanding the conflict and undermine a decades-long push by the U.S. and allies for a two-state solution.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-netanyahu-washington-ceasefire-1c8deec4dd46177e08e07d669d595ed3

Further down in this article was the primary considerations.  NO OTHER NATION will take these homicidal/genocidal maniacs.  Not Jordan, or Egypt, and certainly not Saudi Arabia.  Relocate the Palestinians while Trump rebuilds Gaza into the new grand Riviera of the Med?

Is he trying to compete with the lunatic Democommies for craziest b*st*rd in America?  Or is he losing  it and becoming Wrecking Ball Joe 2.0?  I am so tired of insanity in the USA.

Now Trump tends to flaunt extreme ideas to get what he wants.  Perhaps this is nothing more than him telling the crazy Palestinians we will take your land and deport your sorry *sses to a hinterland so undesirable, you will do as I say or else.  The genocidal maniacs of Gaza will tell Trump to go f*** himself.

[Smokin Joe]

Y'all are forgetting the basics of horsetrading.
You start high, and get 'dickered down' to what you actually wanted (or maybe a bit more).

(You can't jack the price up once the opening bids go out or the deal falls flat.)
I think a lot of this is calling attention to real problems that need to be addressed. I don't think we should take over Gaza, don't want or its problems, but someone should, and the first step in finding solutions is to admit problems. If nothing else, he has called attention to them in a way that cannot be just shoved aside. 

Also, with so many things going on, the people (many with some overlap in all these different facets) opposed to anything but the Biden era status quo are off balance trying to keep responding to the number and variety of proposals (trial balloons). There are fingers which are in all these pies.

[DCPatriot]

Y'all are forgetting the basics of horsetrading.
You start high, and get 'dickered down' to what you actually wanted (or maybe a bit more).

(You can't jack the price up once the opening bids go out or the deal falls flat.)
I think a lot of this is calling attention to real problems that need to be addressed. I don't think we should take over Gaza, don't want or its problems, but someone should, and the first step in finding solutions is to admit problems. If nothing else, he has called attention to them in a way that cannot be just shoved aside. 

Also, with so many things going on, the people (many with some overlap in all these different facets) opposed to anything but the Biden era status quo are off balance trying to keep responding to the number and variety of proposals (trial balloons). There are fingers which are in all these pies.

LOL!  President Trump has absolutely no intention of taking Gaza.

This is merely a "Look!  A squirrel in the backyard...where's the tennis racket?"

He probably peeked over his newspaper at Melania and Barron and said..."Watch what I'm gonna do this afternoon!"

[Smokin Joe]

LOL!  President Trump has absolutely no intention of taking Gaza.

This is merely a "Look!  A squirrel in the backyard...where's the tennis racket?"

He probably peeked over his newspaper at Melania and Barron and said..."Watch what I'm gonna do this afternoon!"

Right. Who needs Gaza when we have Chicago, LA, NYC, Detroit...

[DCPatriot]

Right. Who needs Gaza when we have Chicago, LA, NYC, Detroit...

   

  

[DB]

Y'all are forgetting the basics of horsetrading.
You start high, and get 'dickered down' to what you actually wanted (or maybe a bit more).

(You can't jack the price up once the opening bids go out or the deal falls flat.)
I think a lot of this is calling attention to real problems that need to be addressed. I don't think we should take over Gaza, don't want or its problems, but someone should, and the first step in finding solutions is to admit problems. If nothing else, he has called attention to them in a way that cannot be just shoved aside. 

Also, with so many things going on, the people (many with some overlap in all these different facets) opposed to anything but the Biden era status quo are off balance trying to keep responding to the number and variety of proposals (trial balloons). There are fingers which are in all these pies.

More like poker. What if he gets called?

[catfish1957]

I think this is just more masterful trolling by the master.  Like seizing Greenland, Panama, Canada as 51st state. etc.

Trump knows if he can keep the left in apocalyptic mode, he knows they'll stay so angry that they won't be able to think straight.

[Sighlass]

Not just no, but heck no....

Only thing I want contributed to Gaza is more bombs from above and dropped in.

[Stevensr123]

Holy crap, I’m sorry but this is bat crap crazy

[Stevensr123]

Y'all are forgetting the basics of horsetrading.
You start high, and get 'dickered down' to what you actually wanted (or maybe a bit more).

(You can't jack the price up once the opening bids go out or the deal falls flat.)
I think a lot of this is calling attention to real problems that need to be addressed. I don't think we should take over Gaza, don't want or its problems, but someone should, and the first step in finding solutions is to admit problems. If nothing else, he has called attention to them in a way that cannot be just shoved aside. 

Also, with so many things going on, the people (many with some overlap in all these different facets) opposed to anything but the Biden era status quo are off balance trying to keep responding to the number and variety of proposals (trial balloons). There are fingers which are in all these pies.

why is some shithole in the Middle East the problem of America or the west? Israel is rich enough and can defend itself, and if it isn’t, it’s still not the wests business to get involved in some religious war that’s been going on for thousands of years,.

[libertybele]

why is some shithole in the Middle East the problem of America or the west? Israel is rich enough and can defend itself, and if it isn’t, it’s still not the wests business to get involved in some religious war that’s been going on for thousands of years,.

I agree with you, but in the same light we shouldn't be involved with Russo Ukraine war which has been going on for decades either.

[DCPatriot]

why is some shithole in the Middle East the problem of America or the west? Israel is rich enough and can defend itself, and if it isn’t, it’s still not the wests business to get involved in some religious war that’s been going on for thousands of years,.

Just a thought...not a sermon. 

Seems whenever the White House is occupied by a Democrat, Israel is under attack or constantly threatened.

If the United States had shares of stock in Gaza in the form of a major military installation as Germany has since the end of WWII, it should certainly give Iran and other goat bleepers pause.

[mystery-ak]

Trump’s ‘Historic’ Gaza Plan Wins Support from GOP, Conservatives: ‘Peacemaker for Our Time’

Republican figures and conservative commentators are heaping praise on President Donald Trump’s plan for the United States to take control of Gaza, resettle its population, and rebuild it into a thriving economic hub, a strategy seen as a major shift away from the failed two-state solution.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/04/trumps-historic-gaza-plan-wins-support-gop-conservatives-peacemaker/

[mystery-ak]

Far-Left, Media Freak Out over Trump’s Announcement of U.S. Taking over Gaza

The radical left and members of the establishment media grew extremely angry after President Donald Trump announced the U.S. would take over Gaza.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/04/far-left-media-freak-trumps-announcement-u-s-taking-gaza/

[mountaineer]

Pro-Hamas protesters scream “Gaza is not for Sale” after Trump announced the U.S. will ‘take over’ Gaza and ‘own it.’

https://twitter.com/OliLondonTV/status/1887047428764745782

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump’s ‘Historic’ Gaza Plan Wins Support from GOP, Conservatives: ‘Peacemaker for Our Time’

Republican figures and conservative commentators are heaping praise on President Donald Trump’s plan for the United States to take control of Gaza, resettle its population, and rebuild it into a thriving economic hub, a strategy seen as a major shift away from the failed two-state solution.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/02/04/trumps-historic-gaza-plan-wins-support-gop-conservatives-peacemaker/

This     doesn't make sense.

Why would he want to reward and clean up Israel's ethnic cleansing of the Gaza Strip ---- turning Israel into a perpetual protectorate hanging around our neck in the process?  Why would he want to deepen our footprint in Mideastern quicksand?  There's nothing in any of this for the United States, including our security and our economy.

Seems more likely Trump is opening the door to stopping Israel's plan to bomb Gaza at will for decades and control/reoccupy it.  He knows the status quo, including Israel's, must end with this war.

Interesting times, indeed.

[catfish1957]

Honestly, this is nothing but master trolling by Trump.  Trump's a businessman, and knows that putting a resort within the most violent and terror ridden areas on earth is not the best of investments.  OTOH, I am getting more impressed by the day. 

It's kind of like invading Panama, Canada (51st state) , and Greenland....   No one believes that.

[mountaineer]

Honestly, this is nothing but master trolling by Trump.  Trump's a businessman, and knows that putting a resort within the most violent and terror ridden areas on earth is not the best of investments.  OTOH, I am getting more impressed by the day. 

It's kind of like invading Panama, Canada (51st state) , and Greenland....   No one believes that.

My impression, too.

[Wingnut]

It's kind of like invading Panama, Canada (51st state) , and Greenland....   No one believes that.

One correction. Almost no one. Libs believe it! 

[DCPatriot]

Honestly, this is nothing but master trolling by Trump.  Trump's a businessman, and knows that putting a resort within the most violent and terror ridden areas on earth is not the best of investments.  OTOH, I am getting more impressed by the day. 

It's kind of like invading Panama, Canada (51st state) , and Greenland....   No one believes that.

Amen!  It's a class in Advanced Trolling. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

Yes, Gaza has Mediterranean beach front, but ... it's in a really bad neighborhood, occupied by people who to kill Israeli's and Americans, and surrounded by countries that hate the West.

Good luck finding an insurance company willing to proivde property, auto, and casualty insurance.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I am envisioning an Orlando-type experience underground with the many miles of tunnels.

Just think - you can live in hotels setup there, have fun riding the tracks down the systems, and mazes will be over-the-top,

And it will be happening all under the feet of the populace above.

[libertybele]

Trump’s Gaza ‘Riviera’ plan is the most outlandish idea in the history of US Middle East peacemaking


CNN  —

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu couldn’t keep the smirk off his face.

And no wonder.

Netanyahu looked on in the White House on Tuesday as President Donald Trump delivered the most stunning US intervention in the long history of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

The president repeatedly doubled down on his suggestion that nearly 2 million Palestinians should be relocated from battle-leveled Gaza to new homes elsewhere so that the US could send troops to the Strip, take ownership and build the “Riviera of the Middle East.”

“You build really good quality housing, like a beautiful town, like some place where they can live and not die, because Gaza is a guarantee that they’re going to end up dying,” Trump told reporters.

In a few words, Trump conjured up a mind-boggling geopolitical transformation of the Middle East and a political lifeline for Netanyahu – showing why the prime minister, despite their past tensions, was rooting for his host’s return to power in the 2024 election.

Netanyahu can now bill himself to right-wing factions in his coalition, which incessantly threaten his grip on power, as the unique and vital conduit to Trump. The American president’s views now parallel Israeli hardliners’ desire to see Palestinians ousted from part of what they view as the sacred land of Israel.

Israel’s far-right former national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who quit Netanyahu’s war cabinet earlier this year to protest the Gaza ceasefire deal, confirmed the synergy between Trump’s thinking and extreme conservatives in Israel.

“Donald, this looks like the beginning of a beautiful friendship,” he wrote in a post on X. .............

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/05/politics/trump-gaza-takeover-analysis/index.html

[mountaineer]

Israel’s far-right former national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir, who quit Netanyahu’s war cabinet earlier this year to protest the Gaza ceasefire deal, confirmed the synergy between Trump’s thinking and extreme conservatives in Israel.

Never change, CNN.