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Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« on: January 16, 2025, 07:31:27 am »
Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
January 16, 2025
 
By Paul Homewood
 
Remember when Kamala Harris was extolling electric school buses?


Fortunately nobody was injured when this one caught fire, but sooner or later there will be a tragedy:
 
A school bus was destroyed by a fire in Ontario Monday morning, police say.

Ontario Provincial Police said officers responded at 8:32 a.m. to the scene on Earls Road in Huntsville.

Police said all students were evacuated from the bus and taken to their schools by other buses.

No injuries were reported among any of the students or the driver.

https://www.insauga.com/students-safe-after-school-bus-destroyed-by-fire-in-ontario/

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/01/16/electric-school-bus-destroyed-in-fire-in-ontario/
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2025, 12:09:16 pm »
So...Electric School Buses
Beege Welborn 11:20 AM | January 22, 2025
 
One of the many, many painful hangovers from the Biden administration that blue states are going to have to work through - without the aid of ibuprofen and/or copious amounts of alcohol - is going to be what to do now when the Green grifting dollars they gobbled up so greedily vanish.
 

And I guarantee you, they will.

When a state has thrown itself into a complete transition of its energy and transportation profile, based solely on pie-in-the-sky disputed data and what seemed like an unending flow of lucre from the cultists funding it, yeah - I get it.

It's easy to become a bought-and-paid-for 'believer.'

But that's not your job as an elected official.

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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2025, 06:36:48 am »

5 electric school buses burst into flames in Wilbraham, Mass while charging overnight.

January 23, 2025
By Paul Homewood

h/t Philip Bratby

 

 This is getting serious new.


This is the latest electric bus fire, in Massachussetts:

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2025/01/23/5-electric-school-buses-burst-into-flames-in-wilbraham-mass-while-charging-overnight/
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2025, 12:09:56 pm »
Faulty Electric Buses Cause Massive Headaches for Multiple School Districts

 By Ben Zeisloft
  February 1, 2025 at 5:58am
The administration of now-former President Joe Biden tried to bankroll the use of electric school buses at government schools across the country.

But as the electric buses continue to have massive reliability issues, some schools regret taking the federal handouts and now want help from the Environmental Protection Agency to get themselves out of the program.

Maine Department of Education Commissioner Pender Makin wrote a letter to the agency voicing concerns with the program, asking for waived penalties for not using buses provided by manufacturer Lion Electric, according to a Monday report from WGME-TV in Portland, Maine.

https://www.westernjournal.com/faulty-electric-buses-cause-massive-headaches-multiple-school-districts/
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2025, 12:17:52 pm »
Duh...

Public transportation and schools are not where you should experiment with new unproven technology. It just becomes a boondoggle making us all poorer.

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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2025, 07:20:24 am »

Top Biden EV Bus Maker Nears Bankruptcy, Leaving School Districts and Tens of Millions of Taxpayer Dollars in Limbo

EPA administrator Lee Zeldin tells the Free Beacon he is 'committed to delivering' answers on green spending

Kamala Harris in front of electric school bus (Win McNamee/Getty Images)
Thomas Catenacci
February 7, 2025

The Biden administration awarded Canadian electric bus company Lion Electric nearly $160 million to manufacture hundreds of battery-powered buses for school districts nationwide as part of its sweeping climate agenda. In recent weeks, Lion has initiated bankruptcy proceedings, laid off all employees tasked with building its buses, and paused manufacturing operations.

Lion's financial demise leaves dozens of school districts—including those in California, Montana, North Dakota, Iowa, Alabama, and Maryland—questioning whether they will receive the buses the Biden administration promised them. Lion has yet to deliver $95 million worth of electric buses to 55 districts across the country, according to federal data reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon.

"At this time we are working through the proper channels and keeping our attorneys abreast of the situation," Dawn Wallace, the superintendent of Ohio Valley School District in Adams County, Ohio, which ordered buses from Lion, told the Free Beacon. "No buses have been delivered to our district. We are on hold."

 https://freebeacon.com/energy/bidens-favorite-ev-bus-maker-is-nearing-bankruptcy-and-producing-no-buses-leaving-tens-of-millions-of-taxpayer-dollars-in-limbo/
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2025, 07:49:01 am »
West Fargo bought one three years ago, a Bluebird built for cold climates. The bus is garaged, and it takes 8 hours to get to a full charge, which is about 100 miles worth. Keep in mind, this is one of the most urban areas in ND. 100 miles would not cut it for more rural school districts. Four other school districts in the State of ND have bought or contracted for electric buses, usually one per district as a test, and heavily funded by various grants (from electric co-ops) and Federal subsidies. All are in urban areas of various sizes. Keep in mind that the three largest cities in the State are about 100K in population. (about half of the population is concentrated in four urban areas, Fargo, Grand Forks, Bismarck/Mandan, and Minot, which leaves more room for the rest of us)
About a third of the electricity in the state is generated by wind farms. North Dakota generates about twice the electricity we need in state, the rest is sold on the grid to Canada, Minnesota, Montana, and South Dakota.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2025, 06:31:28 pm »
Plum School District (suburban Pittsburgh, Pa.) is pulling the plug on electric buses. Uncertainty about the availability of previously promised federal was among several reasons Superintendent Rick Walsh cited for not moving forward with the project at this time.
Story at Pittsburgh Tribune Review
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2025, 07:43:45 pm »
Plum School District (suburban Pittsburgh, Pa.) is pulling the plug on electric buses. Uncertainty about the availability of previously promised federal was among several reasons Superintendent Rick Walsh cited for not moving forward with the project at this time.
Story at Pittsburgh Tribune Review
Makes you wonder just how many of these proposed purchases were motivated primarily by the notion of 'free' money.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2025, 09:28:31 pm »
Those in school districts affected that made decisions to buy them should be fired for wasting money and incompetence.  Any fool would have known this would be result.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2025, 09:50:55 pm »
The school districts and private bus companies who contract with them don't  have the financial resources to maintain the buses. Also, the buses weigh a lot more than regular buses, and tow trucks can't handle them when they (inevitably) break down.
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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2025, 09:58:47 pm »
The school districts and private bus companies who contract with them don't  have the financial resources to maintain the buses. Also, the buses weigh a lot more than regular buses, and tow trucks can't handle them when they (inevitably) break down.
You need tow rigs that are set up for Semis, and the buses should be equipped for that type of tow.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2025, 10:13:07 pm »
I suspect that the tow rigs that handle semis aren't readily available in the the towns and suburbs where the super heavy electric buses would break down. At least,that's what our friend, whose family owns a bus company that contracts with school districts, told us.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2025, 11:16:37 pm »
Makes you wonder just how many of these proposed purchases were motivated primarily by the notion of 'free' money.

100% of them.  Want proof?  Offer a free bus to any school district in America.  Their choice.  Gas, diesel, natural gas, hybrid, or electric.  I guarantee you won't find a single one that will choose 'electric'.  But if you then tell them only the electric bus is free, they will choose it.
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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #15 on: February 15, 2025, 12:31:47 pm »
A school district in Democrat Maine got new EV busses through The EPA’s ‘Clean school bus program.’  Winter came and the busses shut down during a run, they were unable to be driven back to the school and abandoned on the side of the road.

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Re: Electric School Bus Destroyed In Fire In Ontario
« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2025, 12:54:16 pm »
I came home a few weeks ago to a raging fire underway in an adjoining neighborhood. House burnt to the ground, fortunately without injury.

Contacting the fire marshall's office, I was told it was caused by an EV being charged in the garage. 

Now I am worried about EVs in my neighborhood, both for safety concerns and for likely insurance premium increases.

I doubt I can get the HOA to ban EVs, but at least we can write in By-Laws that force homeowners to adhere to proper EV charging standards relayed by the fire marshall.
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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2025, 12:55:47 pm »
Now I am worried about EVs in my neighborhood, both for safety concerns and for likely insurance premium increases.
Certainly a reasonable concern! Yikes.
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