More than 74,000 Canadians have died on health-care wait lists since 2018: report

[mountaineer]

More than 74,000 Canadians have died on health-care wait lists since 2018: report
At least 15,474 Canadians died in 2023-24 alone before receiving various surgeries or diagnostic scans. The true number is likely double
Sharon Kirkey
Published Jan 15, 2025  •  Last updated 12 hours ago
National Post

At least 15,000 Canadians died while waiting for surgery or a diagnostic scan over the course of a year, according to government data collected by public policy think tank SecondStreet.org.

The true figure for the fiscal year 2023-24 is likely nearly double owing to a “huge hole” in the data, said SecondStreet president Colin Craig. Missing are data from Quebec, Alberta, Newfoundland and Labrador and most of Manitoba.

The government health bodies that did respond to Freedom of Information (FOI) requests represent 62 per cent of the population. “If the findings from the provinces that did give us data are extrapolated across provinces that didn’t, the total rises to closer to 28,000 people,” Craig said.

The report is the latest “Died on a Waiting List” policy brief from SecondStreet since the conservative-leaning organization began tracking wait-list deaths in the spring of 2018. Since then, the think tank has counted 74,677 cases where Canadians passed away while waiting for treatments. These range from potentially life-saving ones, such as heart operations or cancer therapy, to life-enhancing ones, such as cataract surgeries and hip replacements. ...

[Smokin Joe]

They used to come down to the US to get stuff taken care of. I haven't seen many Canadian plates for a while, now.

[berdie]

This can't be! Canada's health system is one of the best in the world. Far superior to ours. /s

[mountaineer]

This can't be! Canada's health system is one of the best in the world. Far superior to ours. /s

Yep. Right up there with Cuba's, I understand.

[Hoodat]

Yep. Right up there with Cuba's, I understand.

I always wondered why Jimmy Carter never traveled to Cuba for his health care needs.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

No surprise at all


That's how public healthcare works.

[mountaineer]

MonicaDeJesus MiserereNobis
@DJNV04682336
My husband and I met a nice Canadian man today while here in Mexico on vacation. I asked him about Canadian healthcare and he said can take 3-6 months to be seen for MRI’s. Said many fly down to Mexico to get med tests or have treatment and pay out of pocket.
10:54 PM · Jan 15, 2025


Canadaisfecked
@SketchyKP
People probably don't realize the average Dr salary in Canada is just $135,000.
For years 1-6 you won't make more than 75k.
Given the amount of schooling debt yes something needs to get done to retain doctors and encourage new ones.
Give them 10 years to pay back the loan. If they work within Canada for those 10 years, forgive the loan.  If not, they pay.
After 10 years you'd likely have enough of them with roots to community they wouldn't just up and leave.
5:54 PM · Jan 15, 2025
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A physician in Brockton, Ontario, starting his new practice said he would take 500 new patients on. Hundreds lined up in the freezing cold in hopes of signing up.

https://twitter.com/ryangerritsen/status/1879648111263682697

[verga]

This can't be! Canada's health system is one of the best in the world. Far superior to ours. /s

Ya you Betcha doncha know, you hoser you.

[deb]

They used to come down to the US to get stuff taken care of. I haven't seen many Canadian plates for a while, now.

I still see Canadian plates in Grand Forks when we go there, but not like in years past.  Minot used to be crawling with Canucks.

[DefiantMassRINO]

The most financially advantageous approach to health care is to let people die as God intended.

The US Healthcare System is experiencing a slow motion collapse as more doctors stop taking insurance and setup private concierge/boutique medical practices.

Also, smaller hospitals are closing, and some departments are being eliminated, such as OBGYN birthing centers.

Stewart Healthcare was a Real Estate Investment Trust impersonating a hospital management company.  The hospitals would be drained for financial resources to pay 'rent' or 'lease' for their land to the REIT, while hospital operations withered on the vine.

[mountaineer]

Sounds like Canada and Britain are neck and neck in the "bad socialized medicine" competition.

Patients dying in corridors as UK hospital standards ‘collapse’: report
AFP via Insider Paper
January 16, 2025 10:55 am

UK patients are “coming to harm” with hospitals so overwhelmed people are dying in corridors awaiting treatment amid a “collapse in care standards”, a report said Thursday.

In the latest indictment of Britain’s beleaguered state-funded National Health Service, nine in 10 NHS nurses surveyed by the country’s nurses union said “patient safety is being compromised”.

Nearly seven in 10 (66.8 percent) said they were delivering care in “overcrowded or unsuitable places” on a “daily basis”, including in corridors, converted cupboards, car parks and even bereavement rooms.

“The experiences of over 5,000 nursing staff across the UK highlight a devastating collapse in care standards, with patients routinely coming to harm,” said the Royal College of Nursing (RCN).

The report condemned the “normalisation” of so-called “corridor care”, with nurses unable to access life-saving equipment in cramped spaces. ...

[Smokin Joe]

I still see Canadian plates in Grand Forks when we go there, but not like in years past.  Minot used to be crawling with Canucks.

Williston would pick up a bunch of traffic, too. it has been a while...