LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires

[Bigun]

Don't blame the firefighters, it is the state "experts" and "environmentalists" that prevent controlled burns.

I live right next to a National forrest. Several "accidents" occurred in that forrest during the time the idiots were running things. They are back to doing prescribed burns regularly now.

[MeganC]

Don't blame the firefighters, it is the state "experts" and "environmentalists" that prevent controlled burns.

No, the firefighters bear some of the responsibility here too. I've seen it myself that some of them have a weird fetish for putting out every single fire...even when you tell them you're doing a proper burn they can still show up and try to insist on putting it out because "FIRE!!!"

Their fetish translates into policy as these people move up the ranks into leadership.

[GtHawk]

This is why I am so cautious with my charity. Too many charities these days are just scams that redirect their funds to the Democrats either indirectly or outright.

Yeah, just like the Red Cross did, which is why I don’t donate to them.

🤔I seem to have gone back in time on this thread, no matter.

[Smokin Joe]

If the idiot firefighters and the idiot environmentalists would allow normal fires to burn off undergrowth then you'd be right: the risk would be pretty low.

We live not far from Yellowstone and every five or six years we do a series of controlled burns to clear off the brush and fuel around our ranch and our leased land.

A few years ago they had a fire in the park and it ended when it reached our fenceline.

It wasn't magic that stopped the fire it was the same common sense the Natives used to control forests for thousands of years.

[Smokin Joe]

No, the firefighters bear some of the responsibility here too. I've seen it myself that some of them have a weird fetish for putting out every single fire...even when you tell them you're doing a proper burn they can still show up and try to insist on putting it out because "FIRE!!!"

Their fetish translates into policy as these people move up the ranks into leadership.

That sounds like a local problem. When I was a firefighter, we assisted with controlled burns to keep them from getting out of hand, but didn't extinguish them until the property line (usually a backfire line).

[mountaineer]

More on investors - with very, very close ties to CHINA - scooping up fire-destroyed California prime real estate:

Jennifer Van Laar
@jenvanlaar
🔴 EXCLUSIVE: The foreigners buying the burned-out lots at La Costa Beach in Malibu are New Zealand's Mowbray brothers, founders of Hong Kong-based global toy giant Zuru.
Here are the incorporation docs for three of their shell corporations, which they used to purchase the lots - some of which were not on the market.


Jennifer Van Laar
@jenvanlaar
Zuru recently launched Zuru Tech, which will build concrete, pre-fab homes - manufactured in its 8-acre facility in China, which would then be shipped to the US to place on the burned-out lots, founder Nick Mowbray announced at the China Business Summit in NZ in July.
(So why all the secrecy in the US? Trying to keep landowners from knowing what's going on?)
2:46 PM · Aug 22, 2025

[rangerrebew]

The Wildfire Myth: Historical Data Debunks Climate's Role
How cost headlines replaced wildfire measurements, and why the bills keep rising even when burn area doesn’t.
Dr. Matthew Wielicki
Oct 06, 2025
∙ Paid


Summer’s End, Wildfire Headlines Keep Coming
As we approach the end of summer 2025, wildfire season is winding down across much of North America… though, as history shows, devastating fires can strike even in winter, like Southern California’s Palisades Fire. This seasonal lull offers a moment to reflect on the narratives surrounding wildfires, especially amid a noticeable shift in focus from their frequency and severity to economic costs. A recent New York Times piece, “Costly and Deadly Wildfires Really Are on the Rise, New Research Finds,” highlights this pivot, claiming catastrophic wildfires have surged more than fourfold from 1980 to 2023 due to climate-driven fire weather.


https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/02/climate/wildfire-damage-increasing.html
This cites a new paper that argues that disastrous wildfires spiked from 2015 onward, with 43% of the 200 most damaging events in the last decade alone, tied to intensifying climatic extremes.


https://www.nature.com/articles/s41467-025-56333-8
This emphasis on costs mirrors tactics used in discussions of “billion-dollar disasters,” where rising damages are spotlighted when direct metrics like burn area or intensity don’t align with alarmist predictions. The IPCC has long projected in reports up to AR6 that climate change would amplify wildfire frequency and severity, yet observational data tells a different story. Globally, burned area has plummeted over recent decades, contradicting claims of a fire-fueled apocalypse.

When The Metric Doesn’t Move, The Story Does

https://irrationalfear.substack.com/p/the-wildfire-myth-historical-data

[mystery-ak]

Man Arrested in Connection with Start of Deadly Pacific Palisades Fire



Simon Kent 8 Oct 2025

A man was arrested Tuesday as a suspect in setting the deadly Pacific Palisades fire in Los Angeles that claimed 12 lives and destroyed more than 6,000 homes in January.

Justice department officials announced at a news conference that Jonathan Rinderknecht, 29, a.k.a. “Jonathan Rinder,” and “Jon Rinder,” of Melbourne, Florida, 29, had been detained.

He is charged with destruction of property by means of fire.

The BBC reports authorities said evidence collected from the suspect’s digital devices showed an image he generated on ChatGPT depicting a burning city.

The fire was sparked on 7 January near a popular hiking trail overlooking the wealthy coastal neighbourhood.

The Eaton Fire, ignited the same day in the Los Angeles area, killed another 19 people and destroyed about 9,400 structures, officials said. The cause of that fire remains unclear, the BBC report notes.

Rinderknecht was arrested in Florida and has been charged with destruction of property by means of fire, Acting U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli told the press conference in Los Angeles.

The blaze became the most destructive inferno in Los Angeles history.

“While we cannot undo the damage and destruction that was done, we hope his arrest and the charges against him bring some measure of justice to the victims of this horrific tragedy,” Essayli said.

“The arrest, we hope, will offer a measure of justice to all those impacted,” he added.

Rinderknecht will appear in court in Orlando, Florida, on Wednesday.

If convicted, Rinderknecht would face a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in federal prison and a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison.

Full details of the charge can be found here.

More to Come…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/08/man-arrested-in-connection-with-start-of-deadly-pacific-palisades-fire/

[Canuck Conservative]

If convicted, Rinderknecht would face a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in federal prison and a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

[mountaineer]

C3
@C_3C_3
The Left…
Gavin Newsom dumped water into the Pacific.
Jonathan Rinderknecht set fire to push the Climate Change Agenda.
Karen Bass had 0 operational fire hydrants in the Palisades area.
Then they fundraised, kept the cash for their causes and won’t let people rebuild.
Sick.
1:14 PM · Oct 8, 2025

[mountaineer]

Alleged Palisades fire arsonist Jonathan Rinderknecht donated to Joe Biden, was registered to vote in Florida.
Story at New York Post.

[DB]

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

They only know he was at where the fire started. And they couldn't determine what the source of the fire was, short of excluding a number of possible sources.

In other words, I'm not sure they can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that he intentionally started it. Murder likely requires more evidence to successfully convict.

[verga]

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

That is the huge question.

[rangerrebew]

Media Blamed ‘Climate Change’ for Palisades Fire Nightmare – Turns Out a Biden Donor, Climate Nut Just Got Charged for Arson
By Admin
October 9, 2025
9:39 pm


By Samantha Chang

Democrats and their left-wing media lapdogs beclowned themselves after their manufactured outrage claiming “climate change” had caused the Pacific Palisades fire earlier this year turned out to be a big, fat lie.

After spending months stoking climate hysteria by blaming oil companies and Republican policies for the California wildfires, it turned out the blaze was started by a left-wing arsonist.

On Wednesday, the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Central District of California charged Jonathan Rinderknecht — a former Pacific Palisades resident now living in Florida — with maliciously starting the Palisades Fire of January 2025.

https://www.climatedepot.com/2025/10/09/media-blamed-climate-change-for-palisades-fire-nightmare-turns-out-a-biden-donor-climate-nut-just-got-charged-for-arson/

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/1983227262926500211

[mystery-ak]

Newsom Claims We ‘Didn’t Start This Fire,’ Wasn’t Responsible for Monitoring

California Gov. Gavin Newsom (D) said, through a spokesperson, that the state was not responsible for monitoring the burn scar of a January 1 fire (the “Lachman Fire”) that later erupted into the Palisades Fire on January 7.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/28/newsom-claims-we-didnt-start-this-fire-wasnt-responsible-for-monitoring/

[mountaineer]

Gov. Greaseball now thinks he's Billy Joel?

We didn't start the fire
It was always burning
Since the world's been turning
We didn't start the fire
No, we didn't light it
But we tried to fight it

[mountaineer]

Nothing to see here, just another Newsom lie.

New video obtained of Pacific Palisades fire evidence shows Gavin Newsom and California Democrats have been lying to everyone: Video obtained shows smoldering brush in the Pacific Palisades on January 2, days before the Palisades Fire ignited on January 7. This directly contradicts claims that no one could see embers after the initial Lockman Fire was declared contained on December 31.

https://twitter.com/WallStreetApes/status/1983696244154479039

[DefiantMassRINO]

It all goes back to inattentive limousine liberal politicians.  They are so busy stopping Global Climate Change they are not taking care of their own backyards and constituents.

Preventing wildfires, mitigating potential flooding, and snow plowing are not sexy political endeavors, but they are vital functions of local and state Government ... unlike saving us from imaginary, imminent, exestential nothing burgers.

[Smokin Joe]

WHERE DID THE $100,000,000.00 FIRE AID MONEY GO?

[verga]

WHERE DID THE $100,000,000.00 FIRE AID MONEY GO?

You know as well as the rest of us. Dimmie pockets run deep in Cali.