LIVE THREAD>>> California Wild Fires

[Bigun]

Don't blame the firefighters, it is the state "experts" and "environmentalists" that prevent controlled burns.

I live right next to a National forrest. Several "accidents" occurred in that forrest during the time the idiots were running things. They are back to doing prescribed burns regularly now.

[MeganC]

Don't blame the firefighters, it is the state "experts" and "environmentalists" that prevent controlled burns.

No, the firefighters bear some of the responsibility here too. I've seen it myself that some of them have a weird fetish for putting out every single fire...even when you tell them you're doing a proper burn they can still show up and try to insist on putting it out because "FIRE!!!"

Their fetish translates into policy as these people move up the ranks into leadership.

[GtHawk]

This is why I am so cautious with my charity. Too many charities these days are just scams that redirect their funds to the Democrats either indirectly or outright.

Yeah, just like the Red Cross did, which is why I don’t donate to them.

🤔I seem to have gone back in time on this thread, no matter.

[Smokin Joe]

If the idiot firefighters and the idiot environmentalists would allow normal fires to burn off undergrowth then you'd be right: the risk would be pretty low.

We live not far from Yellowstone and every five or six years we do a series of controlled burns to clear off the brush and fuel around our ranch and our leased land.

A few years ago they had a fire in the park and it ended when it reached our fenceline.

It wasn't magic that stopped the fire it was the same common sense the Natives used to control forests for thousands of years.

[Smokin Joe]

No, the firefighters bear some of the responsibility here too. I've seen it myself that some of them have a weird fetish for putting out every single fire...even when you tell them you're doing a proper burn they can still show up and try to insist on putting it out because "FIRE!!!"

Their fetish translates into policy as these people move up the ranks into leadership.

That sounds like a local problem. When I was a firefighter, we assisted with controlled burns to keep them from getting out of hand, but didn't extinguish them until the property line (usually a backfire line).

[mountaineer]

More on investors - with very, very close ties to CHINA - scooping up fire-destroyed California prime real estate:

Jennifer Van Laar
@jenvanlaar
🔴 EXCLUSIVE: The foreigners buying the burned-out lots at La Costa Beach in Malibu are New Zealand's Mowbray brothers, founders of Hong Kong-based global toy giant Zuru.
Here are the incorporation docs for three of their shell corporations, which they used to purchase the lots - some of which were not on the market.


Jennifer Van Laar
@jenvanlaar
Zuru recently launched Zuru Tech, which will build concrete, pre-fab homes - manufactured in its 8-acre facility in China, which would then be shipped to the US to place on the burned-out lots, founder Nick Mowbray announced at the China Business Summit in NZ in July.
(So why all the secrecy in the US? Trying to keep landowners from knowing what's going on?)
2:46 PM · Aug 22, 2025

[mystery-ak]

Man Arrested in Connection with Start of Deadly Pacific Palisades Fire



Simon Kent 8 Oct 2025

A man was arrested Tuesday as a suspect in setting the deadly Pacific Palisades fire in Los Angeles that claimed 12 lives and destroyed more than 6,000 homes in January.

Justice department officials announced at a news conference that Jonathan Rinderknecht, 29, a.k.a. “Jonathan Rinder,” and “Jon Rinder,” of Melbourne, Florida, 29, had been detained.

He is charged with destruction of property by means of fire.

The BBC reports authorities said evidence collected from the suspect’s digital devices showed an image he generated on ChatGPT depicting a burning city.

The fire was sparked on 7 January near a popular hiking trail overlooking the wealthy coastal neighbourhood.

The Eaton Fire, ignited the same day in the Los Angeles area, killed another 19 people and destroyed about 9,400 structures, officials said. The cause of that fire remains unclear, the BBC report notes.

Rinderknecht was arrested in Florida and has been charged with destruction of property by means of fire, Acting U.S. Attorney Bill Essayli told the press conference in Los Angeles.

The blaze became the most destructive inferno in Los Angeles history.

“While we cannot undo the damage and destruction that was done, we hope his arrest and the charges against him bring some measure of justice to the victims of this horrific tragedy,” Essayli said.

“The arrest, we hope, will offer a measure of justice to all those impacted,” he added.

Rinderknecht will appear in court in Orlando, Florida, on Wednesday.

If convicted, Rinderknecht would face a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in federal prison and a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison.

Full details of the charge can be found here.

More to Come…
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2025/10/08/man-arrested-in-connection-with-start-of-deadly-pacific-palisades-fire/

[Canuck Conservative]

If convicted, Rinderknecht would face a mandatory minimum sentence of five years in federal prison and a statutory maximum sentence of 20 years in federal prison

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

[mountaineer]

C3
@C_3C_3
The Left…
Gavin Newsom dumped water into the Pacific.
Jonathan Rinderknecht set fire to push the Climate Change Agenda.
Karen Bass had 0 operational fire hydrants in the Palisades area.
Then they fundraised, kept the cash for their causes and won’t let people rebuild.
Sick.
1:14 PM · Oct 8, 2025

[mountaineer]

Alleged Palisades fire arsonist Jonathan Rinderknecht donated to Joe Biden, was registered to vote in Florida.
Story at New York Post.

[DB]

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

They only know he was at where the fire started. And they couldn't determine what the source of the fire was, short of excluding a number of possible sources.

In other words, I'm not sure they can prove beyond a shadow of doubt that he intentionally started it. Murder likely requires more evidence to successfully convict.

[verga]

Why isn't he charged with murdering 12 people also? 

That should be enough to put him away for life.

That is the huge question.