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Shocking Admission: Biden Admin Says It Doesn't Have the Authority to Shoot Down Massive Drones Buzzing East Coast

 By C. Douglas Golden
  December 14, 2024 at 6:08am
As drones buzz above the East Coast with no real explanation of where they’re coming from, there’s more alarming news out of President Joe Biden’s outgoing administration: They can’t really do anything about them.

In an interview on CNN Friday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that no matter what the intentions of the drones are, his ability to take them out of the sky is very limited.

This is despite the fact that widespread drone sightings over the Northeast have included one over a naval weapons station in New Jersey, among other places, according to ABC News.
 

“While no direct threats to the installation have been identified, we can confirm multiple instances of unidentified drones entering the airspace above Naval Weapons Station Earle,” said Bill Addison, public affairs officer for Naval Weapons Station Earle in Colts Neck, New Jersey.

https://www.westernjournal.com/shocking-admission-biden-admin-says-doesnt-authority-shoot-massive-drones-buzzing-east-coast/
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Since these drones obviously didn't fly here from Europe, and there don't seem to be any mother ships off the coast, it seems these are launched from America.  Since the Biden administration either won't, or is reluctant, to shoot them down, I have to wonder if they aren't government issue spying on Americans and flying over military bases as a cover for what they are actually doing, :pondering:
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Still More on the East Coast Saga Over Drones, With John Kirby Doing an About-Face
By Ward Clark | 7:12 PM on December 13, 2024
 
On Friday, White House spokesdroid John Kirby appeared on Fox News to sing a new tune about the ongoing issue of mysterious drones buzzing about over New Jersey, Maryland, and other East Coast areas. Kirby managed to talk a lot without saying much, which seems to be a requirement to be a spokesman in the Biden administration. What he did say, though, represented a change in course from Thursday.

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Fox host Martha MacCallum pushed Kirby on the matter:

Martha MacCallum: "Do you know, and you can't say? Can you tell me that?"

John Kirby: "No, I'm telling you Martha, we don't know, every... we don't know."

MM: "Let me ask you..."

JK "...to corroborate every single sighting. Some of them we have, but not all of them, and we're working hard to do that, we know people are afraid of it, we know people have concerns, we have those same concerns.

They do? Only yesterday, Kirby said:

https://redstate.com/wardclark/2024/12/13/still-more-on-the-east-coast-drone-saga-and-the-president-elect-chimes-in-n2183191#google_vignette
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. Kirby managed to talk a lot without saying much, which seems to be a requirement to be a spokesman in the Biden administration. 

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Why hasnt anyone simply brought one of these things down?

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Should have brought out the blinkin' wench out.   She'd clear things up.   :cool:
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Why hasnt anyone simply brought one of these things down?

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If they do that, we'll find out that the US gummint has been sowing fear in the US population again.
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If they do that, we'll find out that the US gummint has been sowing fear in the US population again.

Blitzer asked Mayorkas why the Department of Homeland Security had not taken the initiative to take down drones that were breaking the law.

“We can’t shoot a drone out of the sky,” the secretary said, exasperated.

“Our authorities are limited by the United States Coast Guard in the maritime environment, the United States Secret Service in its protection of our national leaders, US Customs and Border Protection with respect to the border,” Mayorkas said, enumerating the rolls of red tape DHS needs to navigate before engagement
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https://nypost.com/2024/12/13/us-news/homeland-security-secretary-mayorkas-downplays-drone-sightings-says-the-feds-cant-shoot-them-down/


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Blitzer asked Mayorkas why the Department of Homeland Security had not taken the initiative to take down drones that were breaking the law.

“We can’t shoot a drone out of the sky,” the secretary said, exasperated.

“Our authorities are limited by the United States Coast Guard in the maritime environment, the United States Secret Service in its protection of our national leaders, US Customs and Border Protection with respect to the border,” Mayorkas said, enumerating the rolls of red tape DHS needs to navigate before engagement
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https://nypost.com/2024/12/13/us-news/homeland-security-secretary-mayorkas-downplays-drone-sightings-says-the-feds-cant-shoot-them-down/

BS.post 9/11 the AF can shoot any threat out of the sky. Mayoman is I lying feminine hygiene product.
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BS.post 9/11 the AF can shoot any threat out of the sky. Mayoman is I lying feminine hygiene product.

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BS.post 9/11 the AF can shoot any threat out of the sky. Mayoman is I lying feminine hygiene product.

Prove it's a threat, first.  Just getting a bunch of civvie undies in a twist over out of focus videos, many of which appear to be of legitimate aircraft, like helicopters, doesn't prove there's a threat.

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Prove it's a threat, first.  Just getting a bunch of civvie undies in a twist over out of focus videos, many of which appear to be of legitimate aircraft, like helicopters, doesn't prove there's a threat.

Yes, so far, truly no threat seems to be emerging. Though the drones being reported and recorded do appear to be larger than a toy drone. Some are describing them to be as large as a car or an SUV (and yes one pic of a helicopter with other large bright lights). So far an annoyance rather than a threat.

However, our govt' can't be trusted period and Mayorkas IS a liar.


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So far I've not seen any evidence of these things being the "size of car or bus". Unknown altitude, unknown size. Anything that big would clearly show up on regional radar.

Drones can be programmed to fly in formation creating all sorts of shapes in the sky.

I have two drones. Lots of people have drones. The people flying these drones clearly want to be seen by flying with lights on at night. Duh...

So far it is just a bunch of hysteria.

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So far I've not seen any evidence of these things being the "size of car or bus". Unknown altitude, unknown size. Anything that big would clearly show up on regional radar.

Drones can be programmed to fly in formation creating all sorts of shapes in the sky.

I have two drones. Lots of people have drones. The people flying these drones clearly want to be seen by flying with lights on at night. Duh...

So far it is just a bunch of hysteria.

Yeah, I agree with you.  They are trying to panic the people.
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Yeah, I agree with you.  They are trying to panic the people.

Or distract, given the shit storm that is about to happen in a little over a month. 
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Or distract, given the shit storm that is about to happen in a little over a month.

Same ting?  :pondering:
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The Drones could be capturing small animals and pets for practice in for grabbing children.

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“We can’t shoot a drone out of the sky,” the secretary said, exasperated.

Then what good are you?
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I have no clue about these drones but I am quite certain of two things:
— There is someone who knows but they aren’t talking.
— There will be a ton of more restrictive regs when this settles down.
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Yeah, I agree with you.  They are trying to panic the people.
My brother the Marine use to work on anti-anti missiles systems on Marine helicopters.  Very, very secretive systems as one never wished to divulge the true nature of our defensive equipment.

I would suggest it still could be a Chinese operation, and a real US military would not wish to tip our hand to the enemy of what our true capability in drone warfare might be if we eliminated one or more.

Having said all that, it is far-fetched to consider our current DOD would pursue such a strategy.  Instead, it is more likely that they are

A. Incompetent
B. Subversive
C. both A&B
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And now we have the idiot-who-will-soon-be-gone weighing in that the US has no competency or authority to shoot them down.

Same jackass who says the border is secure.  Really

Shocking Admission: Biden Admin Says It Doesn't Have the Authority to Shoot Down Massive Drones Buzzing East Coast

 By C. Douglas Golden
  December 14, 2024

As drones buzz above the East Coast with no real explanation of where they’re coming from, there’s more alarming news out of President Joe Biden’s outgoing administration: They can’t really do anything about them.

In an interview on CNN Friday, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas said that no matter what the intentions of the drones are, his ability to take them out of the sky is very limited.

This is despite the fact that widespread drone sightings over the Northeast have included one over a naval weapons station in New Jersey, among other places, according to ABC News.

“While no direct threats to the installation have been identified, we can confirm multiple instances of unidentified drones entering the airspace above Naval Weapons Station Earle,” said Bill Addison, public affairs officer for Naval Weapons Station Earle in Colts Neck, New Jersey.

“The base remains prepared to respond to any potential risks, leveraging robust security measures and advanced detection capabilities.”

But even with this, Mayorkas said the federal government’s hands are tied.

“Our authorities are very limited,” Mayorkas told Wolf Blitzer.

“We have various authorities that are discreet to their particular missions. We can’t just shoot a drone out of the sky.”

https://www.westernjournal.com/shocking-admission-biden-admin-says-doesnt-authority-shoot-massive-drones-buzzing-east-coast/
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Since these drones obviously didn't fly here from Europe, and there don't seem to be any mother ships off the coast, it seems these are launched from America.  Since the Biden administration either won't, or is reluctant, to shoot them down, I have to wonder if they aren't government issue spying on Americans and flying over military bases as a cover for what they are actually doing, :pondering:
Why could they not be dropped off by a large plane or simply a balloon?

Could be thousands dropped in no time at all and controlled by the thousands of Chinese who came across the border.
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"SkyElements" has gone even bigger...a 5,000 drone show!:

https://youtu.be/bxIc969qtYo?si=lzz47NCIeuWYx42B

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Airliners on approach to the JFK airport pass right to left on this live feed...do not be deceived!  :nono:   ;-)

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Incredible!
If drone swarms can be programmed to do this sort of display, they (with a touch of AI for autonomy) can be programmed for military purposes, be that recon, attack,or defense.
Picatinny Arsenal is a testing area for weapons tech, and these may just be flying out of there.
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When did the Biden administration start caring about having "authority" before it could do anything?
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When did the Biden administration start caring about having "authority" before it could do anything?

Exactly. They are trying to hide behind “technicalities”.
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Exactly. They are trying to hide behind “technicalities”.

Briefers see though this ruse.  I am guessing the left would like to keep the general public's attention occupied with UFO's every news cycle, instead of reporting what Kash, Elon, and Pam find the first half of 2025.
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F-16s were scrambled to (if need be) shoot down civilian airliners on 9/11.
Either we've been lied to about Flight 93 or the story is one of genuine heroism, (I'll go with the latter), but at the point where that aircraft got too close, it would have gone no farther.

He can't authorize downing UAVs? Bullshit. He knows whose they are.
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His bovine is working overtime.

F-16s were scrambled to (if need be) shoot down civilian airliners on 9/11.
Either we've been lied to about Flight 93 or the story is one of genuine heroism, (I'll go with the latter), but at the point where that aircraft got too close, it would have gone no farther.

He can't authorize downing UAVs? Bullshit. He knows whose they are.

Exactly right. This whole thing is on us.
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His bovine is working overtime.

F-16s were scrambled to (if need be) shoot down civilian airliners on 9/11.
Either we've been lied to about Flight 93 or the story is one of genuine heroism, (I'll go with the latter), but at the point where that aircraft got too close, it would have gone no farther.

He can't authorize downing UAVs? Bullshit. He knows whose they are.

So now the government can just Willy-nilly shoot at private property without proof of an actual threat, just because the internets have gotten their panties in a twist?

But of course, God forbid the government should try to prevent private cows from being grazed on government property. 

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So now the government can just Willy-nilly shoot at private property without proof of an actual threat, just because the internets have gotten their panties in a twist?

But of course, God forbid the government should try to prevent private cows from being grazed on government property. 

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Buzzing active airports is an actual threat.
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So now the government can just Willy-nilly shoot at private property without proof of an actual threat, just because the internets have gotten their panties in a twist?

But of course, God forbid the government should try to prevent private cows from being grazed on government property. 

:facepalm2:

Perhaps that is a precise and narrow interpretation of the matter but I can assure you, if elements within our vast national security complex expressed threat concerns to the Commander in Chief (shhh… he’s asleep), the order would go out to bring the UAV’s down.
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