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Which US industries bet big on noncitizen workers?
« on: November 29, 2024, 01:09:20 pm »
Which US industries bet big on noncitizen workers?
Farming has 320,000 noncitizen workers, 33% of all jobs in the industry

 
By Jon Lansner | jlansner@scng.com | Orange County Register
UPDATED: November 29, 2024 at 7:21 AM PST

If tougher immigration policies mean a significant loss of workers, American business hardships will lean toward industries with lower-wage jobs.

President-elect Donald Trump has strongly hinted that he’ll order significant deportations of people living in the US without proper documentation. Others can debate the societal, constitutional and political ramifications of such a forced exodus, but my trusty spreadsheet is just looking at how many workers the nation’s economy could lose.

One challenge of debating the business value of immigrants – especially those without proper paperwork – is that statistics on the legal status of immigrant workers are hard to find.

Consider the Census Bureau’s statistics on worker citizenship. It tracks “noncitizens” – a broad category that includes workers from other countries who are approved to be employed in the US, plus those who don’t have such authorization.

https://www.montereyherald.com/2024/11/29/which-us-industries-bet-big-on-noncitizen-workers/
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Re: Which US industries bet big on noncitizen workers?
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2024, 03:32:11 pm »
How about separating the illegal component from the legal immigrants.

This conflation of the two is a crock.
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Re: Which US industries bet big on noncitizen workers?
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2024, 04:56:10 pm »
What percentage of ILLEGAL immigrants are gainfully employed, paying income tax and FICA, etc.? Or are most of them sucking up the freebies handed out by Joe Biden?

I'm all for foreigners going through all legal processes to enter this country in order to do jobs that, supposedly, Americans just won't do - but that's not what Trump is trying to stop.
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Re: Which US industries bet big on noncitizen workers?
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2024, 05:00:59 pm »
What percentage of ILLEGAL immigrants are gainfully employed, paying income tax and FICA, etc.? Or are most of them sucking up the freebies handed out by Joe Biden?

I'm all for foreigners going through all legal processes to enter this country in order to do jobs that, supposedly, Americans just won't do - but that's not what Trump is trying to stop.
THat is the problem with the conflation of illegals and legal 'migrants'.

There was a time not so long ago when a 'migrant' worker harvested crops and moved to be where the work was, harvesting what was ready to be picked. Many of them were Mexican, and some were illegal.

Now, the term 'migrant' is being used to describe anyone from elsewhere, legal or not, employed or not. That takes in a group of people who were here legally and working, and confuses them with people who rode the trains north to the border and swarmed the US under Biden and otherwise.

It is unfair to the legal folks, and muddies the waters around the whole discussion.
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