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« Reply #50 on: December 06, 2024, 03:33:16 pm »
Question...When he was questioned by the police he waived his Miranda Rights...The police at the questioning never told Penny the perp died....did the police entrap Penny?...isn't there some recourse Penny can take?
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #52 on: December 06, 2024, 03:45:19 pm »
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BREAKING: Prosecutors just DISMISSED the manslaughter charge they brought against Daniel Penny after the jury couldn't come up with a unanimous verdict.

Penny is now one step closer to freedom.

He should not spend one day in prison.
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« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2024, 03:47:32 pm »
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BREAKING: Manslaughter charge against Daniel Penny DISMISSED.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2024, 03:54:54 pm »
Jury dismissed for the day..return Monday to consider count 2
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« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2024, 04:04:18 pm »
Jury dismissed for the day..return Monday to consider count 2

I can't find Count 2 anywhere.  It must be something relatively harmless like assault and battery.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2024, 04:13:18 pm »
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Breaking: The judge in the Daniel Penny case has DISMISSED the first manslaughter charge against him.
But don't celebrate yet: This is actually a desperate bid to get him convicted on the second charge, and his defense team opposed it for that reason. The whole move may well be illegal.
New York is outrageously obsessed with putting an innocent hero in prison.
3:50 PM · Dec 6, 2024

The remaining charge is negligent homicide.

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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2024, 04:16:51 pm »
Hundred bucks says "Not guilty" or "Hung jury"  on Count 2. You game, BigUn?  Anybody?
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #59 on: December 06, 2024, 04:22:50 pm »
I can't find Count 2 anywhere.  It must be something relatively harmless like assault and battery.
I'll bet Studley Daniel is going to have some hotties giving him their telephone numbers.
 
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Count 2 is criminally negligent homicide.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #60 on: December 06, 2024, 04:25:57 pm »
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Penny's lawyer Kenniff: “This has never been done before. It would encourage prosecutors to over-charge in the grand jury, with the option of later withdrawing charges if the jury is hung, under coercion”
This is nuts.
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Holy shit.
Judge Wiley: "I am taking a chance and granting the People's motion to dismiss Count 1, to allow the jury to consider Count 2.”
This was a mistrial. The jury was hung.
However, the Judge and DA just looped around it, trying to find him guilty of something.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #61 on: December 06, 2024, 04:44:49 pm »
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Penny's lawyer Kenniff: “This has never been done before. It would encourage prosecutors to over-charge in the grand jury, with the option of later withdrawing charges if the jury is hung, under coercion”
This is nuts.
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Holy shit.
Judge Wiley: "I am taking a chance and granting the People's motion to dismiss Count 1, to allow the jury to consider Count 2.”
This was a mistrial. The jury was hung.
However, the Judge and DA just looped around it, trying to find him guilty of something.
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This seems enormously wrong to me.

No matter the outcome, people will think a long time before getting involved in the future.

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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #62 on: December 06, 2024, 04:46:17 pm »
Hundred bucks says "Not guilty" or "Hung jury"  on Count 2. You game, BigUn?  Anybody?

Nope! How can count two even be considered when the indictment itself make it contingent on count one.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #63 on: December 06, 2024, 05:19:51 pm »
I can't find Count 2 anywhere.  It must be something relatively harmless like assault and battery.
I'll bet Studley Daniel is going to have some hotties giving him their telephone numbers.
 
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Count 2 is Negligent Homicide and carries a Prison time.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #64 on: December 06, 2024, 05:21:04 pm »
I'd like to see a public announcement by Mr. Trump, to the effect:

There appears to be a deliberate attempt by the prosecutors of the state of New York to rig the outcome of the Penny trial. Upon my inauguration, I will direct the Department of Justice to investigate the office of the prosecution for the state of New York and New York City for possible civil rights violations against Mr. Penny...

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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #65 on: December 06, 2024, 05:26:19 pm »
Nope! How can count two even be considered when the indictment itself make it contingent on count one.

The Judge and Prosecutor are trying to get the Jury to come to a Compromise Verdict, so Perry can still be sent to prison for years.  Since the Jury Instructions say Count 2 is dependent on the Verdict of Count 1 (now dismissed), I don't see the Jury being able to settle on that one, either.
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« Reply #66 on: December 06, 2024, 05:28:32 pm »
This is simply the case of a bigoted, black DA attempting to get a white man convicted simply because the accused is white.
If Penny were black and Neely white, nothing would have been made of this case.
Time for prejudiced (and stupid) DAs like Bragg to be excised from the judicial system across the country.

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« Reply #67 on: December 06, 2024, 05:29:59 pm »

The Judge and Prosecutor are trying to get the Jury to come to a Compromise Verdict, so Perry can still be sent to prison for years.  Since the Jury Instructions say Count 2 is dependent on the Verdict of Count 1 (now dismissed), I don't see the Jury being able to settle on that one, either.

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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #68 on: December 06, 2024, 06:08:25 pm »
The Judge and Prosecutor are trying to get the Jury to come to a Compromise Verdict, so Perry can still be sent to prison for years.  Since the Jury Instructions say Count 2 is dependent on the Verdict of Count 1 (now dismissed), I don't see the Jury being able to settle on that one, either.
As if the defense didn't already have innumerable grounds for appeal (assuming there's a conviction).
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« Reply #69 on: December 06, 2024, 06:19:52 pm »
The max for the second, milder charge, is 4 years in prison. The first one would have been the 15 years. Neely's family is probably furious (get ready for protests regardless), and DA Bragg is livid.

There IS much to comment on the particulars of this case, as video shows that Penny could have released Neely without danger to himself and others as there were two grown men over Penny ready to help, and the subway car had emptied. (Even the prosecution commended Penny for his intentions.)  He may have simply held the strangle hold too long.  But hindsight IS 50/50. Penny may have been in "soldier mode" and not able to stand down easily.  It can be such a reflex reaction, I'd think.....
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #71 on: December 06, 2024, 07:08:43 pm »
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When I saw the double masked juror in the Daniel Penny trial, I knew the best we could hope for was a hung jury. NY is absolutely nuts.

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« Reply #72 on: December 06, 2024, 07:39:39 pm »
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« Reply #74 on: December 07, 2024, 09:14:05 am »
What is disgusting about the murder of the CEO is how many libs are rationalizing his murder.
"Well, what would you do if you were turned down?" wail many libs justifying his killing.
Or "I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone like him."
So, according to libs, if you don't get what you want, then it's perfectly alright to murder someone who might be responsible for turning you down. In short, healthcare providers should approve everybody who demands care whether they can pay for it or not. If not, they should be murdered.
The libs who are expressing implicit approval deny that they approve of murder. But they are approving of murder, they're just too gutless to admit it openly.

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What is disgusting about the murder of the CEO is how many libs are rationalizing his murder.
"Well, what would you do if you were turned down?" wail many libs justifying his killing.
Or "I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone like him."
So, according to libs, if you don't get what you want, then it's perfectly alright to murder someone who might be responsible for turning you down. In short, healthcare providers should approve everybody who demands care whether they can pay for it or not. If not, they should be murdered.
The libs who are expressing implicit approval deny that they approve of murder. But they are approving of murder, they're just too gutless to admit it openly.

Have these Libs/Progs realized how that "reasoning" might be applied to abortionists and workers at abortuaries?
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What is disgusting about the murder of the CEO is how many libs are rationalizing his murder.
"Well, what would you do if you were turned down?" wail many libs justifying his killing.
Or "I find it hard to feel sympathy for someone like him."
So, according to libs, if you don't get what you want, then it's perfectly alright to murder someone who might be responsible for turning you down. In short, healthcare providers should approve everybody who demands care whether they can pay for it or not. If not, they should be murdered.
The libs who are expressing implicit approval deny that they approve of murder. But they are approving of murder, they're just too gutless to admit it openly.

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« Reply #80 on: December 07, 2024, 03:51:36 pm »
Add to that that they demand insurance costs too much while at the same time demand it should cover everything imaginable... Expectations that directly contradict reality...

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More good news out of New York this afternoon. The trial judge in the Penny case has agreed to drop the manslaughter charge against the former marine after a hung jury could not reach a verdict. And all American patriots breathe a cautious sigh of relief.

They try to set him up!!!

I really don't see how it's taking the jury so long to come to a conclusion given the fact that the corner said the guy didn't die of strangulation or asphyxiation he died from drugs a blood disease, or other factors. What's there to think about? Gads these people are evil!

https://conservativeus.com/judge-orders-weekend-break-for-penny-jury-after-dropping-key-charge-whats-the-real-reason/

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« Reply #82 on: December 07, 2024, 09:08:13 pm »
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More good news out of New York this afternoon. The trial judge in the Penny case has agreed to drop the manslaughter charge against the former marine after a hung jury could not reach a verdict. And all American patriots breathe a cautious sigh of relief.

They try to set him up!!!

I really don't see how it's taking the jury so long to come to a conclusion given the fact that the corner said the guy didn't die of strangulation or asphyxiation he died from drugs a blood disease, or other factors. What's there to think about? Gads these people are evil!

https://conservativeus.com/judge-orders-weekend-break-for-penny-jury-after-dropping-key-charge-whats-the-real-reason/
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GOP Rep. Introduces Bill To Award Daniel Penny The Congressional Gold Medal

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A Republican congressman is seeking to honor Daniel Penny, the Marine veteran currently facing trial over the death of Jordan Neely, with the Congressional Gold Medal. Rep. Eli Crane (R-AZ) announced his intention to introduce a resolution on Friday to award Penny the prestigious civilian honor.

Crane’s bill argues that Penny acted to “protect women and children” on a New York City subway on May 1, 2023, when he restrained Neely, a homeless man with a history of mental illness and prior arrests. Neely later died, and Penny was charged with manslaughter.

“Daniel Penny, with others, acted to save New York City subway riders from threatening be10 havior by restraining a criminal – who had 42 prior arrests and an active warrant – until the police came,” the draft resolution reads. “The courageous actions taken in response to the threat to his community by Daniel Penny, a decorated U.S. Marine Corps veteran, went beyond the civilian call of duty.”

“It is the sense of the Congress that Daniel Penny, with integrity and honor that is characteristic of who he is and of his honorable service in the United States Marin Corps, stepped in to protect women and children from an individual who was threatening to kill innocent bystanders, and he is a hero.”

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« Reply #87 on: December 08, 2024, 09:00:34 pm »
Nationwide riots would bring all the excuse they need to declare Martial Law.

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« Reply #88 on: December 08, 2024, 11:24:13 pm »
Frankly, I am sick and tired of blacks in the USA crying racism.  I have in my entire life never once witnessed an act of racism. 

The family of the dirt bag that died has already sued for millions in a civil suit.  Our legal system is not worth a good BM.  and the stinking lawyers and judges that have ruined the legal system need to answer for the mess they created.

And bottom line, since when did a coroner's finding impact anything in recent years?  Ever since the coroner indicated George Floyd died of a drug overdose, the morons of Minnesota completely disregarded truth and justice.  No way any of those officers should have been indicted.  Same with Penny.  He is a hero, and the dirt bag's family should be forced to pay for the trouble their worthless son caused to society.

If he is not exonerated on all charges, good luck if you are in trouble, because NO ONE will come to your rescue.  New York is such a f***ed up state and its people could not be dumber.  They hold themselves to be something better, and they are all idiots.

I SAY THE NATION SHOULD BOYCOTT NEW YORK CITY FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS.  STOP GOING THERE FOR ENTERTAINMENT, STOP GOING THERE FOR SIGHTSEEING, JUST STOP GOING THERE PERIOD!!!!
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #89 on: December 09, 2024, 12:50:55 am »
@jafo2010 I haven't been to NYC since '74.
That was interesting, and I even had a little fun there.
But I have no plans to return, ever.
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« Reply #91 on: December 09, 2024, 09:58:37 am »
@jafo2010 I haven't been to NYC since '74.
That was interesting, and I even had a little fun there.
But I have no plans to return, ever.

I went in 2011 when my son's high school band was marching in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, and I'm right there with you.  It was a fun place to visit once.  I don't have any interest at all in going back.  There is just too much small-town girl left in me, I expect.
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« Reply #92 on: December 09, 2024, 10:33:12 am »
They're going to riot no matter what - whether they do it upon the announcement of the Penny verdict, or wait till Jan. 20. There will be riots, just like 2020.
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« Reply #93 on: December 09, 2024, 10:36:34 am »
They're going to riot no matter what - whether they do it upon the announcement of the Penny verdict, or wait till Jan. 20. There will be riots, just like 2020.

I don't think most people are in the mood to put up with it this time around.

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« Reply #94 on: December 09, 2024, 10:38:32 am »
I don't think most people are in the mood to put up with it this time around.

Agreed.  Enough is enough.  It should be FAFO time.
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« Reply #95 on: December 09, 2024, 10:43:58 am »
They're going to riot no matter what - whether they do it upon the announcement of the Penny verdict, or wait till Jan. 20. There will be riots, just like 2020.

Yep.  Hopefully the cold weather will keep the crowd size down a bit.
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Re: Breaking>>Daniel Penny Manslaughter Case..jury deadlocked..
« Reply #96 on: December 09, 2024, 10:51:40 am »
I went in 2011 when my son's high school band was marching in the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, and I'm right there with you.  It was a fun place to visit once.  I don't have any interest at all in going back.  There is just too much small-town girl left in me, I expect.
Good on you! (I am a small town person, too.)
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Fox reporting that you can hear BLM's screaming outside in the courtroom...so the jury hears it too!...
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