What do you think the final Electoral votes tally will be?

[corbe]

   What say you, Briefers.

[corbe]

   I'm cautiously optimistic  Trump +280

[bigheadfred]

Trump @290+

[libertybele]

Trump 300...provided we miraculously have a fair election.

[Lando Lincoln]

Terrific poll @corbe. I’m going with DJT @ 280+. I hope I’m wrong in a good way.

[Bigun]

I went with Trump 300+ but only if the cheating is tamped down a little this time.

[Cyber Liberty]

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

I don't want to jinx it ya' know?

[Bigun]

I don't want to jinx it ya' know?

I started to add a similar statement to my above post.

[ScottinVA]

I was optimistic in 2022, but that “red wave” collapsed in a heap.  I simply hope and pray Trump somehow wins. 

[cato potatoe]

There has been too much hype in the right-wing media bubble.  Trumpers are going to expect 312+ EVs, and anything less will be blamed on widescale fraud.  Harris is a complete dud of a Vice President, and a weak candidate.  She still has loads of resources to focus on swing states, and could very well squeak out a win there.  A tied popular vote would tend to favor Trump in the electoral college.  However, most of the movement in his direction has taken place in the sun belt, and he can’t get to 270 with that.  So I really will not be surprised by anything other than a conclusive result by Friday. 

[DefiantMassRINO]

Fake electors, discounted electors, uncertified electors, decertified electors, etc.

MAGA plan is to get the Election thrown into the US House of Reps to decide.

[Bigun]

There has been too much hype in the right-wing media bubble.  Trumpers are going to expect 312+ EVs, and anything less will be blamed on widescale fraud.  Harris is a complete dud of a Vice President, and a weak candidate.  She still has loads of resources to focus on swing states, and could very well squeak out a win there.  A tied popular vote would tend to favor Trump in the electoral college.  However, most of the movement in his direction has taken place in the sun belt, and he can’t get to 270 with that.  So I really will not be surprised by anything other than a conclusive result by Friday.

LOL! According to you all this fraud talk is all smoke and no fire even in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

[cato potatoe]

LOL! According to you all this fraud talk is all smoke and no fire even in the face of a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

If you want to find a conspiracy behind everything you don’t like, I’m not going to talk you out of it.  Most Americans disagree with my views on the size of government, and are just as likely as not to elect Kamala Harris, even when offered the alternative NYC Republican.  That’s just the way it is.

[Bigun]

If you want to find a conspiracy behind everything you don’t like, I’m not going to talk you out of it.  Most Americans disagree with my views on the size of government, and are just as likely as not to elect Kamala Harris, even when offered the alternative NYC Republican.  That’s just the way it is.

Yes! I agree completely! But nothing you said there addresses the wholesale cheating that has become rampant in recent years.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Fake electors, discounted electors, uncertified electors, decertified electors, etc.

MAGA plan is to get the Election thrown into the US House of Reps to decide.

That strategy really won't work if Jeffries is sworn in as Speaker on Jan 3, will it?

[Smokin Joe]

There has been too much hype in the right-wing media bubble.  Trumpers are going to expect 312+ EVs, and anything less will be blamed on widescale fraud.  Harris is a complete dud of a Vice President, and a weak candidate.  She still has loads of resources to focus on swing states, and could very well squeak out a win there.  A tied popular vote would tend to favor Trump in the electoral college.  However, most of the movement in his direction has taken place in the sun belt, and he can’t get to 270 with that.  So I really will not be surprised by anything other than a conclusive result by Friday.

The Democrats have done nothing to dispel accounts of widescale fraud, besides simply deny or ignore it. You would think they'd at least try to give the impression of fair and honest elections this time but already we have accounts of critical irregularities all over the country, especially in 'battleground' states. Their TDS has blinded them to what they are doing to our nation, elections, and rule of law. They should be trying to be as pure as Ceasar's wife (beyond suspicion) but instead are being blatant.

Everything depends on how much cheating goes on.

[Timber Rattler]

Based on what I'm seeing and "feeling" right now in south central Pennsylvania, I say Trump 312 to Harris 223.  I think he's ahead in all of the swing states but the polls are once again warped by supporters refusing to answer the phone or participate.

Trump has reason in Pennsylvania to feel better than Harris

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/3213074/trump-has-reason-in-pennsylvania-feel-better-than-harris/#google_vignette


Election guru Nate Silver accuses pollsters of putting ‘finger on the scale,’ lying to keep presidential race close

https://nypost.com/2024/11/01/us-news/election-guru-nate-silver-accuses-pollsters-of-putting-finger-on-the-scale-lying-to-keep-presidential-race-close/

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I think we need to keep our eye on the House seats as IMHO the Dems are doing a rope-a-dope on Republicans as eyes on Trump/Harris are distracting them from ensuring we retain the House.

If Jan 6 rolls around and Jeffries is the Speaker, it could be the President of the Senate Harris refuses to certify the electoral college votes and turns the election of the President over to the House.

With each state getting one vote for President, I wonder how that vote would tally up for President?

Any ideas?

[Bigun]

I think we need to keep our eye on the House seats as IMHO the Dems are doing a rope-a-dope on Republicans as eyes on Trump/Harris are distracting them from ensuring we retain the House.

If Jan 6 rolls around and Jeffries is the Speaker, it could be the President of the Senate Harris refuses to certify the electoral college votes and turns the election of the President over to the House.

With each state getting one vote for President, I wonder how that vote would tally up for President?

Any ideas?

I do not believe that scenario would favor the Democrats as there are more Republican states in the legislature and each state would only get one vote.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

I do not believe that scenario would favor the Democrats as there are more Republican states in the legislature and each state would only get one vote.

That is certainly the case now, but could some of these states flip during this election?

And if the election goes to the House to decide, why is the legislature involved?

The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two Persons, of whom one at least shall not be an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves. And they shall make a List of all the Persons voted for, and of the Number of Votes for each; which List they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the Seat of the Government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate. The President of the Senate shall, in the Presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the Certificates, and the Votes shall then be counted. The Person having the greatest Number of Votes shall be the President, if such Number be a Majority of the whole Number of Electors appointed; and if there be more than one who have such Majority, and have an equal Number of Votes, then the House of Representatives shall immediately chuse by Ballot one of them for President; and if no Person have a Majority, then from the five highest on the List the said House shall in like Manner chuse the President. But in chusing the President, the Votes shall be taken by States, the Representation from each State having one Vote; A quorum for this Purpose shall consist of a Member or Members from two thirds of the States, and a Majority of all the States shall be necessary to a Choice. In every Case, after the Choice of the President, the Person having the greatest Number of Votes of the Electors shall be the Vice President. But if there should remain two or more who have equal Votes, the Senate shall chuse from them by Ballot the Vice President.

[Bigun]

That is certainly the case now, but could some of these states flip during this election?

And if the election goes to the House to decide, why is the legislature involved?

The full legislature would not be involved. Only the House and having a numerical majority there does not equal a state by state majority. I doubt seriously that the Dims would have more states represented even if they somehow do manage to flip a few seats.

[catfish1957]

Dims have perfected the steal.  And after I saw all the Twitter posts last night, whrere machines are changing Trump votes, and / or not letting people vote for him at all? 

I went with Kamel-uh 270-280....   for the steal. 

Our only hope for a road block will be a GOP senate, which I am pretty sure will happen.

p.s.  So not to forget how this went down 4 years ago, it might be helpful to re-review our '20 Election thread.

https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,418946.700.html

[IsailedawayfromFR]

The full legislature would not be involved. Only the House and having a numerical majority there does not equal a state by state majority. I doubt seriously that the Dims would have more states represented even if they somehow do manage to flip a few seats.

Guess I do not understand how one vote for each state gets decided in the House then.

[catfish1957]

Man, do I ever hope i have to eat crow, but so many wheels are in motion that are fishy as hell.   I just can't shake this bad feeling.