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Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« on: September 30, 2024, 01:12:59 pm »
Babylon Bee Sues California over ‘Satire Crackdown’
By: Jason Walsh
September 30, 2024
 
 
Conservative satire site, The Babylon Bee, has filed a lawsuit against the state of California after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed a series of “deep fake ” laws targeting outlets publishing parody.”

According to a report from The Daily Wire, the complaint was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Central District of California and notes that Newsom tweeted that a parody video of Kamala Harris should be “illegal.”

“The legislature heard the call and passed two laws that forbid political expression under the label of ‘materially deceptive content,’” the lawsuit asserts.

According to the complaint, one of California’s new laws will require social media platforms to notify the state with “reports about user posts with ‘materially deceptive content’ and then remove or label them.”

https://www.dailyfetched.com/babylon-bee-sues-california-over-satire-crackdown/
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Re: Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2024, 01:18:00 pm »
Looking forward to responding to a California AG rep, when they show up to my door to arrest me for memes.
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2024, 01:31:47 pm »
Looking forward to responding to a California AG rep, when they show up to my door to arrest me for memes.

The meme police
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2024, 01:36:23 pm »
The meme police
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The meme police
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They're coming to arrest me, oh no

Top notch....

Here's one that was a hoot, but became un-funny because when it has become almost non-parody,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemJWrp0nAM

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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2024, 01:38:33 pm »
Audi?  Good grief.  Bunch of hosers.
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2024, 01:40:42 pm »
Audi?  Good grief.  Bunch of hosers.

What was really a hoot, they were successfully convicted of falsifiying the mileage of these diesel engines a few years later. This ad is the best thing that came out of that.
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2024, 01:43:42 pm »
What was really a hoot, they were successfully convicted of falsifiying the mileage of these diesel engines a few years later. This ad is the best thing that came out of that.

LOL.  VW, their Parent Co got wacked too for the Diesel emission deal!

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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2024, 02:13:41 pm »
Hmmmm ... state gooberment press releases ... Dem candidate campaign ads ... Goobernor Noisome's podcast ... so many report-opportunities.
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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2024, 02:32:38 pm »
Happy to oblige, Govenor Greaseball ...

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... go ahead, convince a jury that's not you, Gavin.
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2024, 05:34:07 pm »
Happy to oblige, Govenor Greaseball ...

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... go ahead, convince a jury that's not you, Gavin.

Needs balls...still.
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2024, 05:57:35 pm »
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2024, 07:01:59 pm »
Looking forward to responding to a California AG rep, when they show up to my door to arrest me for memes.

Nah, they'll just go after Zuckerberg and Musk for not labeling you. Easier that way, no bad optics.

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« Reply #12 on: October 01, 2024, 07:06:51 am »

Gavin has balls?
Either that or he is tone-deaf clueless.
Breaking his own rules in full view of everyone during COVID is just the tip of that iceberg.
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Re: Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« Reply #13 on: October 02, 2024, 06:44:27 pm »
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Update: A federal judge just issued a preliminary injunction against this law:
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.caed.453046/gov.uscourts.caed.453046.14.0.pdf
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« Reply #14 on: October 02, 2024, 07:10:20 pm »
Top notch....

Here's one that was a hoot, but became un-funny because when it has become almost non-parody,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemJWrp0nAM

It wasn’t funny then.  It was obviously showing preference for the enlightened ones, and it did not last long.  Just in memory.  Recall seeing it on Super Bowl and we were pretty much jaw-dropped.
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Re: Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2024, 09:29:14 am »
Poor, sad Politico reports:
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Judge blocks California deepfakes law that sparked Musk-Newsom row
The decision is a blow to the state’s leading Democrats who’ve tried to rein in misleading social media content ahead of the November elections.
By Tyler Katzenberger
10/02/2024 06:44 PM EDT
Updated: 10/02/2024 07:41 PM EDT

SACRAMENTO, California — A federal judge on Wednesday blocked a California measure restricting the use of digitally altered political “deepfakes” just two weeks after Gov. Gavin Newsom signed the bill into law.

The ruling is a blow to a push by the state’s leading Democrats to rein in misleading content on social media ahead of Election Day.

Chris Kohls, known as “Mr Reagan” on X, sued to prevent the state from enforcing the law after posting an AI-generated video of a Harris campaign ad on the social media site. He claimed the video was protected by the First Amendment because it was a parody.

The judge agreed.

“Most of [the law] acts as a hammer instead of a scalpel,” Senior U.S. District Judge John A. Mendez wrote, calling it “a blunt tool hinders humorous expression and unconstitutionally stifles the free and unfettered exchange of ideas.” He carved out an exception for a “not unduly burdensome” portion of the law that requires verbal disclosure of digitally altered content in audio-only recordings. ...

Newsom spokesperson Izzy Gardon said in a statement that the governor’s office was “confident” the courts would uphold California’s ability to regulate deepfakes. He said the law was reasonable, arguing it was in line with a similar measure restricting deepfakes passed in Alabama.

“Deepfakes threaten the integrity of our elections, and these new laws protect our democracy while preserving free speech,” Gardon said. “Satire remains alive and well in California — even for those who miss the punchline.” ...
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« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2024, 09:36:47 am »
Yeah... threat to democracy
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« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2024, 10:49:08 am »
Top notch....

Here's one that was a hoot, but became un-funny because when it has become almost non-parody,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GemJWrp0nAM

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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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Re: Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2024, 05:40:06 pm »
The meme police
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The meme police
They come to me in my bed
The meme police
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I like it, but why did it make me flash to Napoleon XIV? Dangit now Ive got that dang earworm stuck in my head!

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« Reply #20 on: October 05, 2024, 10:36:45 am »
I like it, but why did it make me flash to Napoleon XIV? Dangit now Ive got that dang earworm stuck in my head!

Remember when you ran away
And I got on my knees and begged you
Nit to leave because I’d go berserk
Well…..

The surest cure for an earworm is a worse earworm. Any Abba song that was a hit should do the trick, maybe "Dancing Queen".
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #21 on: October 05, 2024, 06:24:01 pm »
The surest cure for an earworm is a worse earworm. Any Abba song that was a hit should do the trick, maybe "Dancing Queen".
If all else fails, there's always "It's a small world after all" :shrug:
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« Reply #22 on: October 05, 2024, 09:52:15 pm »
I like it, but why did it make me flash to Napoleon XIV? Dangit now Ive got that dang earworm stuck in my head!

Remember when you ran away
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Nit to leave because I’d go berserk
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IT had exactly the same effect on me.
I think they just may take me away to the happy home
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« Reply #23 on: October 06, 2024, 10:27:11 am »
If all else fails, there's always "It's a small world after all" :shrug:

 :beer:
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If, as anti-Covid-vaxxers claim, https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/robert-f-kennedy-jr-said-the-covid-19-vaccine-is-the-deadliest-vaccine-ever-made-thats-not-true/ , https://gospelnewsnetwork.org/2021/11/23/covid-shots-are-the-deadliest-vaccines-in-medical-history/ , The Vaccine is deadly, where in the US have Pfizer and Moderna hidden the millions of bodies of those who died of "vaccine injury"?

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« Reply #24 on: October 06, 2024, 10:41:48 am »
I call your Napoleon XIV, and raise you a bowl of popcorn.....


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« Reply #25 on: October 06, 2024, 11:30:56 am »
I'll see your popcorn and raise you a hamster dance.  The one from the early days of the intewebs.
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« Reply #26 on: October 18, 2024, 06:09:14 pm »
At 1st I thought this was satire.  But I was wrong.

California’s Democrats are being sued for shutting down satire.

At the centre of the 72-page lawsuit is the right to freedom of speech for the Babylon Bee and lawyer Kelly Chang Rickert.

Representing Rickert and the Babylon Bee is Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF). They said that the catalyst for the case was legislation recently adopted by Governor Gavin ‘Nuisance’ Newsom.

‘[These] laws censor freedom of speech by using vague standards to punish people for posting certain political content online,’ the ADF argued.

This includes, ‘political memes, parodies of politicians and apply around election time’.

They are designed, ADF explained, to censor speech through subjective standards like prohibiting pictures and videos ‘likely to harm’ a candidate’s ‘electoral prospects’.

California’s Democrats fast-tracked their own version of the Misinformation and Disinformation (MAD) laws in September.

Bills AB 2839 and AB 2655 were made law after an ad (of unknown origin) parodying Kamala Harris, triggered Newsom.

He criticised Elon Musk for resharing the video, and boasted:

‘Manipulating a voice in an ‘ad’ like this one should be illegal. I’ll be signing a bill in a matter of weeks to make sure it is.’

Ironically, AB 2655 was dubbed ‘Defending Democracy from Deepfake Deception’.

AB 2839, sponsored by 12 Democrats, was marketed as protecting elections from deceptive media in advertisements.

Citing AI and election interference, they claimed that ‘fake images or files can skew election results’ and promote election denial conspiracies.

Therefore, in order to secure election integrity, California has decided that it must ban satirical content critical of candidates ‘for a limited time before and after elections’.

This serves to ‘prevent the use of deepfakes and disinformation meant to prevent voters from voting and deceive voters based on fraudulent content’.

A federal court has since put a halt on AB 2839, citing concerns about freedom of speech in response to an unrelated lawsuit put forward by YouTuber Christopher Kohls.

ADF described the laws as ‘forbidding political expression under the label of ‘materially deceptive content’.

Newsom’s law renders satire pointless by effectively demanding comical content come with trigger warnings.

Additionally, ‘AB 2655 converts social media platforms into California state snitches.’

Big Tech will be required to file ‘field reports’ with big government ‘about user posts, then remove or label them false’.

The Babylon Bee v Comrade California lawsuit argues, that Newsom’s MAD laws, ‘threatens the heart of public discourse’.

‘The First Amendment protects this freedom because it trusts the American people to be able to think and decide for themselves in the context of debating political candidates and issues.’

Slamming their point home, ADF said:

‘California officials don’t share that trust. They want to be the arbiters of political truth online.’

Defending satirical political content, ADF added:

‘The end [goal] of satire is often to criticise or mock an idea, event, or person for the purpose of correction and improvement.’

To this end, satire utilises wit, shock, and awe, in order to ‘provide social commentary in order to expose underlying truths’.

Satirists provide sharp relief, and brevity in an otherwise bloated, and cloudy stream of morose data, and cliched, overdone sloganeering.

Thus, ADF argued, ‘Satirists tell the truth with a smile, so that [they] will not repel people but cure them of their ignorance which is their worst fault.’

The Babylon Bee is based in Florida, however, most of its editing and video work is produced in California.

ADF’s lawsuit aims to stop the enforcement of both laws.

https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/10/the-babylon-bee-sues-california-for-silencing-satire/
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« Reply #27 on: October 18, 2024, 07:45:59 pm »
Pay wall.  It this an excerpt?
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« Reply #28 on: October 18, 2024, 08:29:31 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2024, 10:03:36 pm »

The Babylon Bee is based in Florida, however, most of its editing and video work is produced in California.
https://www.spectator.com.au/2024/10/the-babylon-bee-sues-california-for-silencing-satire/
So California is actively forcing another company to pack and leave for better states.

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« Reply #31 on: October 19, 2024, 10:00:53 am »
I display the Confederate Battle Flag in honor of my great great great grandfathers who spilled blood at Wilson's Creek and Shiloh.  5 others served in the WBTS with honor too.

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« Reply #32 on: October 19, 2024, 10:57:27 am »
The surest cure for an earworm is a worse earworm. Any Abba song that was a hit should do the trick, maybe "Dancing Queen".

Hey, I liked "Waterloo!"
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Re: Babylon Bee Sues California over 'Satire Crackdown'
« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2024, 07:22:48 pm »
California agrees it can't punish satirical website Babylon Bee for election memes, parodies
"Our job is hard enough when our jokes keep coming true, as if they were prophecies," CEO Seth Dillon says.
By Greg Piper
Published: October 22, 2024 4:44pm


California agreed it could not legally enforce a law (AB 2839) against "materially deceptive" political content, including memes and parodies of elected officials, by the Christian conservative satire site The Babylon Bee under a joint stipulation Tuesday with Attorney General Rob Bonta's office.

U.S. District Judge John Mendez already blocked the law, which claims it targets "deepfakes," in a separate legal challenge by "Mr Reagan" Chris Kohls earlier this month, ruling that YouTube videos and social media posts are the "newspaper advertisements and political cartoons of today."

"This case was subsequently transferred to the Eastern District of California and assigned to this Court. All parties have agreed to consolidate this case with Kohls v. Bonta in a separate stipulation filed concurrently with this Court," the filing says. The parties agree the "plain language" of the injunction applies to the Bee and the other plaintiff, law blogger Kelly Rickert.

"The Babylon Bee and Rickert are now free to post their political content online during the current election season without fear of violating the law while the case continues," their lawyers at the Alliance Defending Freedom said Tuesday.

Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom "has no constitutional authority to act as the humor police," Vice President of Litigation Strategy Jonathan Scruggs said. "While lawmakers act as if posting and resharing memes is a threat to democracy, these laws censor speech California politicians don’t like."

"Our job is hard enough when our jokes keep coming true, as if they were prophecies," CEO Seth Dillon said. "Unfortunately for them, the First Amendment secures our right to tell jokes they don’t like."
https://justthenews.com/nation/free-speech/california-agrees-it-cant-punish-satirical-website-babylon-bee-election-memes
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