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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2300 on: March 11, 2025, 12:30:44 pm »
If you were familiar with this young lady's posting history, you'd see that she specifically suggested and endorsed providing nukes to Zellinsky.

On X, it is being reported that the Hungarians are now pissed at the Ukes for destroying a pipeline station in Russia that supplies oil to the Hunks.  Even accused them of of attack on their sovereignty.  Ol' Z's on a roll.
And Z probably can’t figure out why the Hungarians don’t support the endless war that is putting hardship on them too. Orban is no different than Trump, in that he puts Hungary and Hungarians first, over the Ukraine, the EU or anyone else.

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« Reply #2302 on: March 11, 2025, 01:22:25 pm »
If you were familiar with this young lady's posting history, you'd see that she specifically suggested and endorsed providing nukes to Zellinsky.

Ukraine is perfectly capable of building their own nuclear weapons and I've made clear that this is what they need to do.
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« Reply #2303 on: March 11, 2025, 01:24:50 pm »
Ukraine is perfectly capable of building their own nuclear weapons and I've made clear that this is what they need to do.

Your POV, and you have to live with it.
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« Reply #2304 on: March 11, 2025, 01:28:19 pm »
Your POV, and you have to live with it.

The day Ukraine announces they have nukes the Russians will end their war.

There's simply no downside to Ukraine having nukes. They were fools to give them up in the first place. No doubt they and everyone else has learned from this mistake.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2309 on: March 12, 2025, 07:43:31 am »
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2311 on: March 12, 2025, 07:57:38 am »
Cease Fire In Ukraine?

Powerline 3/11/2025

Representatives of the U.S. and Ukraine have been meeting in Saudi Arabia, with the result that Ukraine has agreed to a 30-day cease fire:

    The US state department has said in a joint statement with the Ukrainians that Washington will “immediately” lift the pause on intelligence-sharing and resume security assistance to Ukraine.

    The US ban on intelligence-sharing was announced last week by the White House. At the time, US officials said the pause could be lifted if peace talks made progress.
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    Ukraine has agreed to accept an American proposal for an immediate 30-day ceasefire and to take steps toward restoring a durable peace after Russia’s invasion, according to the joint US-Ukraine statement.

    The two sides, meeting in Saudi Arabia, also agreed to conclude as soon as possible a comprehensive agreement for developing Ukraine’s mineral resources, the statement said.

Now it is Russia’s turn to be squeezed:

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/03/cease-fire-in-ukraine.php

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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2317 on: March 12, 2025, 11:19:29 am »
Cease Fire In Ukraine?

Powerline 3/11/2025

Representatives of the U.S. and Ukraine have been meeting in Saudi Arabia, with the result that Ukraine has agreed to a 30-day cease fire:

    The US state department has said in a joint statement with the Ukrainians that Washington will “immediately” lift the pause on intelligence-sharing and resume security assistance to Ukraine.

    The US ban on intelligence-sharing was announced last week by the White House. At the time, US officials said the pause could be lifted if peace talks made progress.
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    Ukraine has agreed to accept an American proposal for an immediate 30-day ceasefire and to take steps toward restoring a durable peace after Russia’s invasion, according to the joint US-Ukraine statement.

    The two sides, meeting in Saudi Arabia, also agreed to conclude as soon as possible a comprehensive agreement for developing Ukraine’s mineral resources, the statement said.

Now it is Russia’s turn to be squeezed:

More: https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2025/03/cease-fire-in-ukraine.php

Putin cannot agree to a cease fire. Doing so would be an admission to the Russian people that Russia cannot defeat Ukraine.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2318 on: March 12, 2025, 11:24:35 am »
Putin cannot agree to a cease fire. Doing so would be an admission to the Russian people that Russia cannot defeat Ukraine.

And yet, if he doesn't agree, that's like him giving a middle finger to Pres. Trump's peace efforts.

Now it gets interesting ...
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« Reply #2319 on: March 12, 2025, 11:31:09 am »
Putin can always 'reframe' the objective of the 'Special Ukraine Operation' to suit his domestic political needs.

I suspect Putin would push for 'autonomy' for the Ukrainian territories occupied by the Russians.  Putin may not win the hot war, but he may set himself up to win another 'frozen war'.

Putin defines Russia as the 'Protector of Slavs' or 'Protector of Russian-speaking Peoples' to justify intervention in former Soviet territories.  He doesn't need to win outright, but can use this justification to cleave 'ethnic Russian' regions from indepenedent nations and wield more influence in them.
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« Reply #2320 on: March 12, 2025, 11:31:56 am »
And yet, if he doesn't agree, that's like him giving a middle finger to Pres. Trump's peace efforts.

Now it gets interesting ...

And in the analogy circus, a nice mix in 2 of the 3 rings between a "rock in a hard place" and "painting yourself in a corner"

And for us, the 3rd circle?   Not our Monkey, Not our Circus.  Let the chip's land where they may.  If this effort fails, Trump needs to just say F...it, and let the EU sort it out.
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« Reply #2321 on: March 12, 2025, 12:15:03 pm »
And yet, if he doesn't agree, that's like him giving a middle finger to Pres. Trump's peace efforts.

Now it gets interesting ...

Between hurting Trump's feelings and getting shot in the back of the head by one of his bodyguards I suspect Putin will choose to hurt Trump's feelings.
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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2322 on: March 12, 2025, 03:55:36 pm »
Reporting From Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/@RFU/videos

An abridged transcript.

[ Russians Make a Massive Strategic Miscalculation! ]

Today [ Mar 12, 8 pm ], there are important updates from the Kursk direction. Here, the Ukrainian forces started to shorten the frontline in the salient with a controlled withdrawal, while the Russians continued their multi-vector offensive. It is important to reiterate that the Ukrainian incursion into Russia’s Kursk region was never about holding territory indefinitely, but a calculated move with clear strategic objectives, designed to serve two primary purposes: first, to force the Russians to redeploy critical reserves away from the Donbas front in the east, preventing them from making rapid gains there;  and second, to potentially gain leverage in future negotiations by controlling Russian territory.
 
The secondary goal, holding Russian territory as leverage in potential negotiations, was ultimately being diminished due to shifting political dynamics. While controlling parts of Kursk oblast would have pressured Russia in any peace talks, shifting US foreign policy and the cutting of intelligence sharing with Ukraine, fundamentally altered the equation. While the diplomatic goal has become less relevant in the face of these changes, the first, of diverting forces away from Russian offensives in eastern Ukraine, has been a resounding success. Given these challenges, a strategic withdrawal to more defensible positions became the logical course of action, and the Ukrainian forces began a deliberate and controlled withdrawal from some positions, recognizing the risks of holding an increasingly vulnerable salient. Interestingly, the timing of this withdrawal correlates closely with the suspension of US intelligence sharing - something Russia quickly moved to exploit.

Overall, Ukraine's strategic position has improved significantly, since the start of the Kursk incursion. The operation forced Russia to divert critical reserves away from its theater-wide offensive effort, haling and reversing several key advances in the Donbas. While holding Russian territory as leverage proved unfeasible, the primary goal stabilizing the eastern front was successfully achieved. With Russia gaining localized advantages in Kursk, Ukraine's withdrawal is a tactical adjustment allowing forces to regroup and fight under more favorable conditions.


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Re: Ukraine 5
« Reply #2323 on: March 12, 2025, 04:04:27 pm »
@BobfromWB  please edit your post to two or three paragraphs then provide the link to finish reading...thank you
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« Reply #2324 on: March 12, 2025, 04:49:36 pm »
OK I didn't realize there was a word/size limit to posts.
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