Trump needs to realize how many people hate him before it’s too late by.. Derek Hunter

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Trump needs to realize how many people hate him before it’s too late
Derek Hunter, Opinion Contributor
5–6 minutes

The funny thing about being famous is there will always be people who hate you. Fame is like that, and that’s the world Donald Trump comes out of.

So when he hears that people hate him, in a way, it’s like a normal part of the job. Politicians don’t want to inspire indifference, but hatred is worse. While Trump is very much loved by his die-hard supporters, he is also hated by many more people, and not just Democrats and never-Trump Republicans.

Average Americans, moderate and many conservative voters simply cannot stand the guy. He needs to come to terms with that and find a way to reach these people, or else 2024 will be a repeat of 2020.

A vote cast out of love counts just as much as one cast out of hatred, no matter how intense. The Trump campaign seems to think passion equals more support than it does, which is the sure path to an electoral loss. Just ask Mitt Romney, who drew very large crowds and suffered a very large loss.

That doesn’t mean all is lost for Trump, not by a longshot. As Van Jones put it on CNN Monday, after almost a month of unequaled positive — glowing even — media coverage, Vice President Kamala Harris is only tied in the polls with him. All the water-carrying and propping up that the entire left-wing media-industrial complex can muster hasn’t bought her a clear lead. That’s not a good sign for Democrats.

Even so, Republicans need to acknowledge the news that is not good for them. The new CBS New/YouGov poll has Harris up 51-48 over Trump. That’s not surprising, considering the slobbering media coverage she’s received. Nor is it particularly worrisome at this point in the election cycle. What should be of concern for the Trump campaign is the numbers when it comes to the issues voters care about.

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https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4836969-trump-needs-reaching-out-haters/

[massadvj]

Everyone wants Trump to be more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney did. People know who Trump is. His abrasiveness is cooked into his brand, and if you take that away, you also take away a political weapon that he has used with success.

I can't stand the guy, either. I never understood the manic cult worship. But I do not deny its existence, which I attribute to Trump's unique ability to stimulate the lizard brains of the masses. So let him be. There will be plenty of second-guessing if he loses. Unfortunately, everyone else in the GOP has already lost -- to him. So he obviously knows something the rest of us don't.

[The_Reader_David]

Everyone wants Trump to be more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney did. People know who Trump is. His abrasiveness is cooked into his brand, and if you take that away, you also take away a political weapon that he has used with success.

I can't stand the guy, either. I never understood the manic cult worship. But I do not deny its existence, which I attribute to Trump's unique ability to stimulate the lizard brains of the masses. So let him be. There will be plenty of second-guessing if he loses. Unfortunately, everyone else in the GOP has already lost -- to him. So he obviously knows something the rest of us don't.

No, Trump should not be '"more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney', but he should be a more disciplined and on-message version of Trump.  His attack-dog instincts and ability to communicate directly with the masses over the heads of the media need to be channeled into attacks on the lunatic policies the Democrats are proposing, not personal attacks.

[massadvj]

No, Trump should not be '"more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney', but he should be a more disciplined and on-message version of Trump.  His attack-dog instincts and ability to communicate directly with the masses over the heads of the media need to be channeled into attacks on the lunatic policies the Democrats are proposing, not personal attacks.

This assumes the remaining undecided voters are going to vote based on policies. They aren't. They are going to vote based on gut instinct, and that is something that dwells deep in the lizard brain that Trump seems to understand so well. He has a unique knack for planting doubts about people into the subconscious minds of low-information voters. It is his only chance for winning at this point.

[Free Vulcan]

But why do they hate him? Most people don't have a reason. I can see those conservatives that have policy issues with him, but most people are like snitty, snot-nosed sorority girls who think Trump is beneath them because he's not sunshine, rainbows, and blowing smoke up their butt.

Most people today unfortunately live in a world of high and mighty sunshine dreams driven by the media and entertainment industry while evil is happening all around them, driven by ruthless power hungry thugs and despots who would love to see it all fall apart and put us all under the boot of slavery.

And while I'm one who was disappointed because Trump didn't go far enough last time, or stand up to the Fauci's of the world, the reality is because they don't want someone to tell them what reality is anyway as Trump bluntly does. It doesn't matter who it is, the response will be the same. We simply don't have enough people in this country who care enough about self-survival to actually vote for it.

[catfish1957]

There's an old commerical about salsa that some cowboys are around the fire lamenting that their salsa is from "New York City"

There's a lot that outside the NE U.S., that many have yet to understand.  What might be charming and novel obnoxiousness in the NYC universe to that area, turns people off in middle and southern America. 

I don't know if that is reversible at this point.

[libertybele]

No, Trump should not be '"more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney', but he should be a more disciplined and on-message version of Trump.  His attack-dog instincts and ability to communicate directly with the masses over the heads of the media need to be channeled into attacks on the lunatic policies the Democrats are proposing, not personal attacks.

 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Everyone wants Trump to be more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney did. People know who Trump is. His abrasiveness is cooked into his brand, and if you take that away, you also take away a political weapon that he has used with success.

You're basically saying he should just keep preaching to the exact same choir despite his brand losing in every election since 2018.  He needs to attract more than just the true believers if he wants to win in 2024.

He is not going to lose a single voter if he is less abrasive in the final ten weeks of the campaign.   Nobody who likes his demeanor and leans his way is going to think he's suddenly turned into Jeb Bush, and decide to vote for Kamala instead.

However, being less abrasive may well help sway some of those late deciding, squishy moderates precisely because they're squishy, and having yet decided.   And her policies are so horrible that she's given him a great avenue to attack her on that basis.

It also might help sway some of us disenchanted conservatives who would like to see some evidence that he can operate as something other than someone driven by his emotions of the moment and whomever is the most personally flattering or offensive to him in a given moment.

[massadvj]

....being less abrasive may well help sway some of those late deciding, squishy moderates precisely because they're squishy, and having yet decided.   

Being less abrasive has not worked in politics since the Reagan era. While it is true it was a much more pleasant time, it is never coming back. Just take a look at how much the culture has devolved since the 1980s. Go to any group event such as a theme park or baseball game and observe people -- how they dress, how well they take care of themselves, how conscientious and refined they seem to be compared to times past. The average voter today (especially the undecided voter) is much less educated, much more cynical, and more reactionary.

If abrasiveness was a fault in politics, Trump would not be the nominee. You aren't living in the world you think you live in.

[PeteS in CA]

Does Derek Hunter seriously fantasize that after over nine years of hatred and lies being dumped on him, Trump does not realize that that are people who hate him?

Further, does Derek Hunter seriously fantasize that those people who have been hating on and lying about Trump for over 9 years could be persuaded to vote for Trump?

[banddag]

75% of his old WH staff are against him and not voting for him. What does that tell you. Tell me what president had as much hate from prior staff members as Trump.

There is a new group out there called Leaving Maga and it is taking off. People are tiring of Trumps lies, no morals and only cares about himself.

[roamer_1]

I can't stand the guy, either. I never understood the manic cult worship. But I do not deny its existence, which I attribute to Trump's unique ability to stimulate the lizard brains of the masses. So let him be. There will be plenty of second-guessing if he loses. Unfortunately, everyone else in the GOP has already lost -- to him. So he obviously knows something the rest of us don't.

It is a marvel... 

[libertybele]

Does Derek Hunter seriously fantasize that after over nine years of hatred and lies being dumped on him, Trump does not realize that that are people who hate him?

Further, does Derek Hunter seriously fantasize that those people who have been hating on and lying about Trump for over 9 years could be persuaded to vote for Trump?

Further, does Derek Hunter seriously think that Trump doesn't know people hate him .... perhaps the assassination attempt hasn't sunk in for him yet.

[goatprairie]

Everyone wants Trump to be more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney did. People know who Trump is. His abrasiveness is cooked into his brand, and if you take that away, you also take away a political weapon that he has used with success.

I can't stand the guy, either. I never understood the manic cult worship. But I do not deny its existence, which I attribute to Trump's unique ability to stimulate the lizard brains of the masses. So let him be. There will be plenty of second-guessing if he loses. Unfortunately, everyone else in the GOP has already lost -- to him. So he obviously knows something the rest of us don't.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Trump doesn't care.  Trump won't care.  Trump is a malignant narcissistic psychopath incapable of empathy.

Those betting on Trump being disciplined should buy Depends in bulk for when they deficate and urinate their pants.

[Fishrrman]

David wrote (in response to Mr. Massad):
"No, Trump should not be '"more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney', but he should be a more disciplined and on-message version of Trump."

Agreed.

From the very first days after he announced his candidacy (was it 9 years ago already?), I saw Mr. Trump as the proverbial "bull in the china shop" (and even posted that here, I believe).

AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
(all shouting intentional).

That's why the DCSwampians hate him so much -- he was out to smash up their world, to their detriment.

And that's exactly what we need.

Unless that happens, the country as a whole is no more "savable" than is the state of California.

Hmmm... (a test follows)...
How many members remember me posting this?
Still think it's not happening?
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Fishrrman's American timeline:
(First posted by me in June 2019)

2019: USA -- United States of America
20??: USSA -- United Socialist States of America
20??: USSSA -- United Soviet Socialist States of America
20??:  ?????

[Maj. Bill Martin]

No, Trump should not be '"more "disciplined" and "stay on message" like Bob Dole, John McCain and Mitt Romney', but he should be a more disciplined and on-message version of Trump.  His attack-dog instincts and ability to communicate directly with the masses over the heads of the media need to be channeled into attacks on the lunatic policies the Democrats are proposing, not personal attacks.

 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Being less abrasive has not worked in politics since the Reagan era. While it is true it was a much more pleasant time, it is never coming back. Just take a look at how much the culture has devolved since the 1980s. Go to any group event such as a theme park or baseball game and observe people -- how they dress, how well they take care of themselves, how conscientious and refined they seem to be compared to times past. The average voter today (especially the undecided voter) is much less educated, much more cynical, and more reactionary.

If abrasiveness was a fault in politics, Trump would not be the nominee. You aren't living in the world you think you live in.

That's absurd.  Just because a fault isn't enough to sink an entire campaign completely doesn't mean it didn't hurt a candidate on the margins, and on the margins is where this election is going to be won or lost.  By your same logic, what happened on January 6th didn't hurt Trump politically either, even though there clearly are voters and politicians for whom that was sufficient for them to abandon Trump.

[Hoodat]

People are tiring of Trumps lies, no morals and only cares about himself.

That's almost verbatim what Chuck Schumer said last night.  Of course none of it is true.  But at least we now know where you get your talking points.

There is a lot you can criticize Trump for.  But being uncaring towards others is certainly not one of them.