Time for NeverTrump Republicans to Put on their Big Boy Pants

[mystery-ak]

August 19, 2024
Time for NeverTrump Republicans to Put on their Big Boy Pants
By Brian C. Joondeph

My flak jacket is on as I write this since I am sure to offend or piss off some friends, family, and colleagues who are ostensibly Republicans or conservatives but have a visceral aversion to Donald Trump.

Some tell me they are Republican and miss Ronald Reagan but also admit they “couldn’t” vote for Donald Trump in either 2016 or 2020. Nothing says one is Republican like voting for a liberal Democrat.

This is the NeverTrump wing of the Republican Party, emerging shortly after Trump secured the GOP nomination in 2016. Reasons for NeverTrump-ism are myriad.

Some were offended by his mean tweets, name-calling, and brash Queens personality. Others disliked his confidence and determination to punch back twice as hard when attacked, particularly when the attacks were bogus (Russian collusion, fine people, grab em by the p***y, etc).

Many establishment Republicans only wanted a nominee who was part of George Carlin’s “big club,” with the last name of Bush, or endorsed by the Chamber of Commerce, The Wall Street Journal, or the Koch brothers.

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https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2024/08/time_for_nevertrump_republicans_to_put_on_their_big_boy_pants.html

[LMAO]

Expect more articles like this as Donald Trump’s campaign gets further into trouble. They’re demanding that others bail them out of their poor choice.

As predictable as the sun rising in the east

It has nothing to do with growing the size of government and adding on another $8 trillion worth of debt while pushing for expansion of the money supply and  attacking the federal reserve for not doing something stupid like going to 0% interest rates and economy harming tariffs, or attacking other Republicans for not showing him proper fealty. But Donald Trump himself wouldn’t pledge to back  the GOP nominee if it wasn’t him

[cato potatoe]

If the MAGA influencers disappear in a couple of months, I sure hope they take their clichés with them. 

[catfish1957]

[Cyber Liberty]

 

[corbe]

   Trump will take all 40 EV's in Texas.  Perhaps it will be as small of a margin that Cruz overtook beto in 2018 (thank you Trumpers). 

[DefiantMassRINO]

If I have a choice between a liberal Republican or a liberal Democrat, I'll choose the liberal Democrat.  I don't vote Republican to elect liberals.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

This writer is an idiot.

An idiot?

Hardly that, as he is a practicing medical eye doctor who happens to care about his country enough to bring some needed political attention to other citizens.  Doing something rather than remaining silent or spouting off on threads like this.

You can disagree with certain things in this article but let's hear from you on whether you disagree with these other recent articles he has written.  They must all be idiotic if written by an idiot, not so?

Here's his recent articles  https://briancjoondephmdmps.substack.com

BTW, others in the medical professions are feverishly attempting to sign up as many people in medical institutions such as psychiatric wards, which he is obviously not doing.
Those are real life idiots being coerced to vote, so I wonder which way they would vote? Don't worry, not asking for the secrets you have regarding your own vote.

Meet the Little-Known Activist Group That Has Tens of Thousands of Doctors Registering Patients To Vote
https://freebeacon.com/elections/meet-the-little-known-activist-group-that-has-tens-of-thousands-of-doctors-registering-patients-to-vote/

[LMAO]

   Trump will take all 40 EV's in Texas.  Perhaps it will be as small of a margin that Cruz overtook beto in 2018 (thank you Trumpers).

Harris will win my home state of Wisconsin

[corbe]

   All of the Candidates I care about, Issac, Roy and Cruz are comfortably ahead in the current polls, so I'm gonna save myself the grief and not vote, again, this year. 

[berdie]

Just an idle thought I would like share.

Since I have heard Trump praise the opposition (KimJongYuongin, Newsome,etc) for saying "nice things",  what would happen if the Dems and Kammie started praising him?

It could be a tightrope...but possible. It would be hard for him.

As weird as this political season has been...nothing surprises me.

[libertybele]

   Trump will take all 40 EV's in Texas.  Perhaps it will be as small of a margin that Cruz overtook beto in 2018 (thank you Trumpers).

Honestly @corbe I'm not so sure that Trump will take TX nor FL. The corruption is so deep and wide, that I believe it is going to take a true miracle to turn this ship around.

[corbe]

   I don't see it that way @libertybele TEXAS and FLORIDA are a given to the GOP.  Gov DeSantis and Abbott have made great strides in cleaning up the voter rolls and eliminating that type of fraud. *



   *unless there's another video/audio where we actually hear/see him stepping on his tiny orange dick, again.

[LMAO]

Just an idle thought I would like share.

Since I have heard Trump praise the opposition (KimJongYuongin, Newsome,etc) for saying "nice things",  what would happen if the Dems and Kammie started praising him?

@berdie

 

[roamer_1]

Typical 'Because Democrats' fare.

*YAWN*

[LMAO]

An idiot?

Hardly that, as he is a practicing medical eye doctor who happens to care about his country enough to bring some needed political attention to other citizens.  Doing something rather than remaining silent or spouting off on threads like this.

You can disagree with certain things in this article but let's hear from you on whether you disagree with these other recent articles he has written.  They must all be idiotic if written by an idiot, not so?

Here's his recent articles  https://briancjoondephmdmps.substack.com

BTW, others in the medical professions are feverishly attempting to sign up as many people in medical institutions such as psychiatric wards, which he is obviously not doing.
Those are real life idiots being coerced to vote, so I wonder which way they would vote? Don't worry, not asking for the secrets you have regarding your own vote.

Meet the Little-Known Activist Group That Has Tens of Thousands of Doctors Registering Patients To Vote
https://freebeacon.com/elections/meet-the-little-known-activist-group-that-has-tens-of-thousands-of-doctors-registering-patients-to-vote/

I will retract my statement of the writer being an idiot


The rest of my post still stands

[Hoodat]

When is Trump going to put on Big Boy Pants and stop funding the Swamp?

[IsailedawayfromFR]

When is Trump going to put on Big Boy Pants and stop funding the Swamp?

Did he do that here? https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,536890.msg3048800.html#msg3048800

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Reasons for NeverTrump-ism are myriad.

Some were offended by his mean tweets, name-calling, and brash Queens personality. Others disliked his confidence and determination to punch back twice as hard when attacked, particularly when the attacks were bogus (Russian collusion, fine people, grab em by the p***y, etc).

Many establishment Republicans only wanted a nominee who was part of George Carlin’s “big club,” with the last name of Bush, or endorsed by the Chamber of Commerce, The Wall Street Journal, or the Koch brothers.

How typical of these people.  They pretend that the only objections to Trump relate to his personality and demeanor.   That the critics are focused on "mean tweets" and "orange man bad".  Absolutely no acknowledgement of all the policy and performance based complaints so many of us have.

It's just dishonest as hell.

To me, the relevance of the "mean tweets" and stupid crap he says are purely political - I think they'll lose him votes he might otherwise win, and may hurt down-ticket Republicans.  But they're not the reason I personally won't vote for him.

[LMAO]

How typical of these people.  They pretend that the only objections to Trump relate to his personality and demeanor.   That the critics are focused on "mean tweets" and "orange man bad".  Absolutely no acknowledgement of all the policy and performance based complaints so many of us have.

It's just dishonest as hell.

To me, the relevance of the "mean tweets" and stupid crap he says are purely political - I think they'll lose him votes he might otherwise win, and may hurt down-ticket Republicans.  But they're not the reason I personally won't vote for him.

How Trump handled the economic impact of his tariffs and COVID is how he would handle any domestic crisis. Print lots of money and send checks out even over the objections of other Republicans


I have no doubt that Harris would do the same thing. Except if Trump does it, it’s in the name of conservatism.

But, there needs to be some pushback against the upcoming Harris regime and her far left tendencies so I will be voting for Republicans down ballot even though Eric Hovde is going to lose against Tammy Baldwin anyways

[Hoodat]

Did he do that here? https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,536890.msg3048800.html#msg3048800

Eight trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION!

[Cyber Liberty]

Eight trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION!

According to the link, he Vetoed it and it was Overridden.  No signature.

[Free Vulcan]

I'm firmly in the middle when it comes to Trump. I'm under no delusions that he's gonna fix the debt problem. That cake is baked anyway. I'm simply looking at the rest of his policy stances to see if I think he's going to do enough to make it worth not skipping that part of the ballot.

It's his race to win.

[roamer_1]

Except if Trump does it, it’s in the name of conservatism.

There it is, right there. An un-conservative action by an extreme non-conservative...
But we will get the blame for it, watch and see.

[The_Reader_David]

If I have a choice between a liberal Republican or a liberal Democrat, I'll choose the liberal Democrat.  I don't vote Republican to elect liberals.

What about a choice between a liberal Republican and a bat-s**t crazy woke Democrat as clueless about economics as old Karl M. himself was?

[roamer_1]

What about a choice between a liberal Republican and a bat-s**t crazy woke Democrat as clueless about economics as old Karl M. himself was?

Sounds like the same thing to me... Any argument will turn out to be about the color and texture of the icing on the cake.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Eight trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION!

So you read this and believe he also approved this bill in spite of it being vetoed and overridden by an out of control Congress?

Is that being honest or are you not believing the Congressional record?

[Hoodat]

So you read this and believe he also approved this bill in spite of it being vetoed and overridden by an out of control Congress?

Is that being honest or are you not believing the Congressional record?

This is one bill - a bill that a lame duck Trump vetoed after having been in office three years, eleven months, and three days.  But I will gladly spot you the difference.


Eight trillion $7.26 trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION! $7.26 TRILLION!

[bigheadfred]

This is one bill - a bill that a lame duck Trump vetoed after having been in office three years, eleven months, and three days.  But I will gladly spot you the difference.


Eight trillion $7.26 trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION! $7.26 TRILLION!

Congress has a spending problem. Fix that.

[Hoodat]

Congress has a spending problem. Fix that.

Congress has an appropriation problem.  The Executive Branch has a spending problem.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

This is one bill - a bill that a lame duck Trump vetoed after having been in office three years, eleven months, and three days.  But I will gladly spot you the difference.


Eight trillion $7.26 trillion in New debt over four years.  All with his signature on it.  EIGHT TRILLION! $7.26 TRILLION!

I answer by reminding you are the one who asked when will Trump stop funding the Dem wishes.  In this instance, it was the wishes of both the Dems and GOP which overrode his veto.

[bigheadfred]

Congress has an appropriation problem.  The Executive Branch has a spending problem.

Vetoing veto proof bills works every time. /s

[Hoodat]

I answer by reminding you are the one who asked when will Trump stop funding the Dem wishes.  In this instance, it was the wishes of both the Dems and GOP which overrode his veto.

And I applaud him for it.  But it would have been nice to see him do it coming out of the gate instead of waiting until he was heading out the door.

[libertybele]

Congress has an appropriation problem.  The Executive Branch has a spending problem.

We no longer have a DEM problem or a GOP problem; America has a problem and we are in dire straits.

[roamer_1]

I answer by reminding you are the one who asked when will Trump stop funding the Dem wishes.  In this instance, it was the wishes of both the Dems and GOP which overrode his veto.

For this instance, you are willing to overlook  all the rest, and the trend they prove?

HAHAHAHA!

I think not.

[roamer_1]

Vetoing veto proof bills works every time. /s

Yes, in fact. it does... If one wants to wash his own hands of it.

[bigheadfred]

Yes, in fact. it does... If one wants to wash his own hands of it.

Show me on the doll where that hurt me.

[roamer_1]

Show me on the doll where that hurt me.

Look right around the bung hole.

[DefiantMassRINO]

In 2000, I voted for Bush.  No way I was going to vote for the Wooden Indian.
In 2004, I voted for Bush.  No way I was going to vote for the douch-iest of limousine liberal dem douchebags.
In 2008, I voted for Obama.  McCain was too flip-floppy on illegal immigration.
In 2012, I voted for Obama.  Mitt Romney has no soul.  He was running against his own healthcare plan.  He thought 47% of Americans were deadbeats, including reitirees and veterans.  Damn vulture capitalist.
In 2016, I voted for Trump.  Hillary Clinton is Josef Stalin in a pantsuit.
In 2020, I voted for Biden.  Trump told the world to inject disinfectant on live TV.  He ran away from Covid rather than running towards it, like first responders and leaders do.
In 2024, I'm leaning towards Harris/Walz, and voting Repub down ballot.

Jan. 2017 - Jan 2019, the GOP had the chance to lower Federal Income Tax rate for earned income, but didn't.  They lowered taxes for corporations.  They also screwed Republicans in Blue States by eliminating the SALT tax deduction.

GOP is an opposition party, not a governing party.  Bush 43 GOP bacame a Big Government party and Private Profit/Socialized Loss party.  GOP needs to return to conservative governing.

What about a choice between a liberal Republican and a bat-s**t crazy woke Democrat as clueless about economics as old Karl M. himself was?

[catfish1957]

In 2000, I voted for Bush.  No way I was going to vote for the Wooden Indian.
In 2004, I voted for Bush.  No way I was going to vote for the douch-iest of limousine liberal dem douchebags.
In 2008, I voted for Obama.  McCain was too flip-floppy on illegal immigration.
In 2012, I voted for Obama.  Mitt Romney has no soul.  He was running against his own healthcare plan.  He thought 47% of Americans were deadbeats, including reitirees and veterans.  Damn vulture capitalist.
In 2016, I voted for Trump.  Hillary Clinton is Josef Stalin in a pantsuit.
In 2020, I voted for Biden.  Trump told the world to inject disinfectant on live TV.  He ran away from Covid rather than running towards it, like first responders and leaders do.
In 2024, I'm leaning towards Harris/Walz, and voting Repub down ballot.

Jan. 2017 - Jan 2019, the GOP had the chance to lower Federal Income Tax rate for earned income, but didn't.  They lowered taxes for corporations.  They also screwed Republicans in Blue States by eliminating the SALT tax deduction.

GOP is an opposition party, not a governing party.  Bush 43 GOP bacame a Big Government party and Private Profit/Socialized Loss party.  GOP needs to return to conservative governing.

Someone told me there were more unicorns than swing voters who frequent political forums......

(from someone who hasn't voted for a democrat in 50 years. (never)

[DefiantMassRINO]

Politics is a competition of ideas  Elections are marketplaces for ideas to be exchanged and compete among each other.

The Republican Party needs to offer American voters a better deal than Dems.  Catering to Globalist billionaires does not accomplish that.  Taking away personal liberties does not accomplish that.  Enslaving Americans with Government Debt does not accomplishment.

The best welfare program is a job.  We need to grow real GDP - excluding Health, Education, and Government - to improve the standard of living for all Americans.  Too many people (urban, rural, poor, blue collar) have been left out and left behind during the past 30 years.

[bigheadfred]

Look right around the bung hole.

Big whiff.

[roamer_1]

Big whiff.

YUP.

[berdie]

What about a choice between a liberal Republican and a bat-s**t crazy woke Democrat as clueless about economics as old Karl M. himself was?

My thoughts exactly. Trump isn't conservative...but he's also not a socialist.

[Bigun]

My thoughts exactly. Trump isn't conservative...but he's also not a socialist.

I believe Trump genuinely does love this country unlike the vast majority of today's Democrats.

[libertybele]

I believe Trump genuinely does love this country unlike the vast majority of today's Democrats.

I have no doubt that Trump is an American patriot. 

[roamer_1]

I believe Trump genuinely does love this country unlike the vast majority of today's Democrats.

That's not anywhere near enough.

[bigheadfred]

That's not anywhere near enough.

Just vote for the Commies.

[Bigun]

That's not anywhere near enough.

Maybe not! But it's the best we can do this time for sure!

[roamer_1]

Just vote for the Commies.

Which ones? The ones on the left, or the ones on the right?