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« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2024, 03:55:02 pm »
More bullshit! Commiecrats win ONLY because they CHEAT LIKE HELL and get away with it!
Correct.

The #1 priority for the GOP is to mitigate election fraud.

It will assuredly happen in the machines which run the big cities, but if it can be severely reduced, the Dems will have little chance to win.

DJT is the best mechanism before us to attempt to restore America to what it should be.

Even traditioned Democrats get it as the black and Hispanic voting appears lessened for the Dems.

It is indeed unfortunate that a number on this site do not figure this out.
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« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2024, 04:44:16 pm »
More bullshit! Commiecrats win ONLY because they CHEAT LIKE HELL and get away with it!

You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but it isn't the truth. That's not to say Democrats won't cheat, because they will. But the larger problem is that Trump is very unpopular with a large swath of the American population. His age is also going to hurt him a lot with younger voters, particularly now that the Democrats have a younger candidate.

I'm honestly curious what you believe about the polls. You guys seemed more than willing to count on the polls when they showed Trump with a lead over Biden.  That was evidence to you of how popular he was.

But now that he has fallen behind in the polls, they all of a sudden become unreliable, and the crowds that she is attracting must be AI generated or something. 

Ignoring reality won't change it.

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« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2024, 04:45:51 pm »
That, and  their base has gone much further to the left and won’t tolerate moderation. They don’t worry so much about  the votes of independent voters because they know not enough of them will go to Donald Trump to make a difference, if any. Nobody believes that Donald Trump is going to do as well or better than Mitt Romney did amongst independent voters in 2012




Is it hopeless for Republicans? Not at all. Ron DeSantis won  traditionally blue areas of Florida, for example. So there is evidence that Republicans can be at least competitive in the blue parts of the country. And there are blue states and purple states with Republican governors. Vermont has a Republican governor despite sending communist Bernie back to the Senate

But stopping up and down and crying, “we wuz robbed” is not the way back on that path. Yes, we could use some improvement on how we conduct elections. But you have to win them first to fix the problems

Harris hasn’t gotten the Obama coalition totally behind her yet. She will after the convention. If/when she does, then this election is over on the presidential end

I will be the first to admit that I did underestimate her. I thought she might flop by the first week or two

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I don't think you underestimated her. She's still the babbling, cackling socialist she always was. But the Dems are smart enough (surprise) to listen to Bammy and hire his people to run her campaign. And she stays on script...which is very comfortable for her.

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« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2024, 04:47:28 pm »

Even traditioned Democrats get it as the black and Hispanic voting appears lessened for the Dems.
And upon what do you base the conclusion there is a significant reduction in black and Hispanic voting for Democrats?

Because the reliance on polls seems to be rather selective among some Trump supporters.
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« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2024, 04:50:17 pm »
You can keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better, but it isn't the truth. That's not to say Democrats won't cheat, because they will. But the larger problem is that Trump is very unpopular with a large swath of the American population. His age is also going to hurt him a lot with younger voters, particularly now that the Democrats have a younger candidate.

I'm honestly curious what you believe about the polls. You guys seemed more than willing to count on the polls when they showed Trump with a lead over Biden.  That was evidence to you of how popular he was.

But now that he has fallen behind in the polls, they all of a sudden become unreliable, and the crowds that she is attracting must be AI generated or something. 

Ignoring reality won't change it.




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« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2024, 05:20:26 pm »
That, and  their base has gone much further to the left and won’t tolerate moderation. They don’t worry so much about  the votes of independent voters because they know not enough of them will go to Donald Trump to make a difference, if any. Nobody believes that Donald Trump is going to do as well or better than Mitt Romney did amongst independent voters in 2012




Is it hopeless for Republicans? Not at all. Ron DeSantis won  traditionally blue areas of Florida, for example. So there is evidence that Republicans can be at least competitive in the blue parts of the country. And there are blue states and purple states with Republican governors. Vermont has a Republican governor despite sending communist Bernie back to the Senate

But stopping up and down and crying, “we wuz robbed” is not the way back on that path. Yes, we could use some improvement on how we conduct elections. But you have to win them first to fix the problems

Harris hasn’t gotten the Obama coalition totally behind her yet. She will after the convention. If/when she does, then this election is over on the presidential end

I will be the first to admit that I did underestimate her. I thought she might flop by the first week or two

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The problem was that the Kamala roll-out coincided with the selection of a GOP running mate who was easily demonized by the press.  So right as there was negative press about the Trump ticket, there was a positive rollout for the Democrats.   And the GOP counterpunch has been awful.

Trump could still win, but that campaign really needs to do a much better job of refining its message and quit getting distracted.  The entire Walz saga has given Kamala a complete free pass.

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« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2024, 06:23:43 pm »
And upon what do you base the conclusion there is a significant reduction in black and Hispanic voting for Democrats?

Because the reliance on polls seems to be rather selective among some Trump supporters.
Just about every article on the subject I have read this year.  Go read them yourself.

In case you don't wish to go to that effort, I'll make it easy for you on a couple of recent ones

Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-surge-in-polls-with-black-voters-stuns-cnn-analyst-truly-historic/ar-BB1mAsM'

US election: why Latino and Hispanic voters are shifting to Trump after a long history of supporting the Democrats
https://theconversation.com/us-election-why-latino-and-hispanic-voters-are-shifting-to-trump-after-a-long-history-of-supporting-the-democrats-229566

Not to mention that he was actually invited to the Black Journalists Conference to speak.  When was the last time that a Republican President was able to do that?

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« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2024, 06:55:10 pm »
Just about every article on the subject I have read this year.  Go read them yourself.

In case you don't wish to go to that effort, I'll make it easy for you on a couple of recent ones

Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-surge-in-polls-with-black-voters-stuns-cnn-analyst-truly-historic/ar-BB1mAsM'

US election: why Latino and Hispanic voters are shifting to Trump after a long history of supporting the Democrats
https://theconversation.com/us-election-why-latino-and-hispanic-voters-are-shifting-to-trump-after-a-long-history-of-supporting-the-democrats-229566

Not to mention that he was actually invited to the Black Journalists Conference to speak.  When was the last time that a Republican President was able to do that?


One link doesn’t open

The other is from May when Joe was still in the race

Here’s an update

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-black-voters-polls-trump-1936504


And

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-erases-donald-trump-gains-hispanic-voters-1930682

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/11/latino-voters-democrats-polls-history-harris-trump
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« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2024, 07:28:48 pm »
Just about every article on the subject I have read this year.  Go read them yourself.

In case you don't wish to go to that effort, I'll make it easy for you on a couple of recent ones

Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-s-surge-in-polls-with-black-voters-stuns-cnn-analyst-truly-historic/ar-BB1mAsM'

US election: why Latino and Hispanic voters are shifting to Trump after a long history of supporting the Democrats
https://theconversation.com/us-election-why-latino-and-hispanic-voters-are-shifting-to-trump-after-a-long-history-of-supporting-the-democrats-229566

Not to mention that he was actually invited to the Black Journalists Conference to speak.  When was the last time that a Republican President was able to do that?

Hey, that's fine to rely on those polls as long as you don't dismiss them when they produce results you don't like.  That's why I asked.

FWIW, I agree Trump has stronger support among those minority groups.  But I also believe those same polls when they say that he is losing ground to Kamala.

And if those polls are reliable, then isn't it entirely possible for Trump to lose without being cheated?
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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2024, 07:32:10 pm »
More bullshit! Commiecrats win ONLY because they CHEAT LIKE HELL and get away with it!

Commiecrats win because Republicans let them.
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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2024, 08:20:19 pm »
Commiecrats win because Republicans let them.

I'm kind of curious as to how many of those people who claim Trump can only lose by cheating live anywhere near a major metropolitan area, or in a major college town.  Because from what I've seen, those areas lean heavily Democrat.  I live in Cleveland, and it is objectively difficult to find any Trump signs within the city.  I see more rainbow flags than American flags.  I live in the most conservative, Republican ward, and I've see exactly one house with a Trump sign.  Probably because the predominance of leftists here means your house or car will get vandalized.

This is what it is like in just about every major American city.  It's a huge base of support for any Democrat presidential candidate.
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2024, 09:43:53 pm »

One link doesn’t open

The other is from May when Joe was still in the race

Here’s an update

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-black-voters-polls-trump-1936504


And

https://www.newsweek.com/kamala-harris-erases-donald-trump-gains-hispanic-voters-1930682

https://www.axios.com/2024/08/11/latino-voters-democrats-polls-history-harris-trump
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Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’

As far as being assessments when Biden was running instead of Kamala, are you seriously believing Trump will be losing voters due to Kamala, the dunce.

Try harder.
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2024, 09:50:46 pm »
As far as being assessments when Biden was running instead of Kamala, are you seriously believing Trump will be losing voters due to Kamala, the dunce.

Oh, I definitely believe Trump is losing swing voters to Kamala.

The starting point is Biden's overt senility and mental incompetence exposed to the entire world.  Even the lowest of low information voters was aware of that, making him essentially the worst Democrat candidate in history.  Kamala, as much as we may mock her for being dumb, is not senile or mentally incompetent.

Doesn't the fact that the Democrats themselves were eager to ditch Biden and replace him with Kamala itself prove that she has more appeal, at least to those who lean Democrat?  Couple that with the mass propaganda campaign in her favor, and Trump missteps, and the fact that there was at least some shift towards Harris becomes inevitable.

The fact that she's a "woman of color" also helps with a certain segment of voters.  In any case, speculation isn't necessary.  The very polling organizations you rely upon to prove that Trump is/was more popular with certain racial groups now say Kamala is surging.  So how can you believe one, but not the other, when they're done by the same organizations?

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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2024, 09:54:35 pm »
Hey, that's fine to rely on those polls as long as you don't dismiss them when they produce results you don't like.  That's why I asked.

FWIW, I agree Trump has stronger support among those minority groups.  But I also believe those same polls when they say that he is losing ground to Kamala.

And if those polls are reliable, then isn't it entirely possible for Trump to lose without being cheated?
Fair enough, as I don't trust polls either.

Notwithstanding polls, several high profile conservative minorities like Donalds, Sears and Scott as well as the DemtoGOP Dallas mayor Johnson, who have the ear of blacks who differ with Dem policy publicly.  They will have an influence in upcoming elections.

Trump does not just stand for the GOP.  He stands for upending the establishment antics that have caused massive inflation, illegals influx, destruction of social mores and the like.

To that end, Kamala is the same as Biden.
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2024, 10:08:43 pm »
try copying this into google and read artlice
Trump’s surge in polls with Black voters stuns CNN analyst: ‘Truly historic’

As far as being assessments when Biden was running instead of Kamala, are you seriously believing Trump will be losing voters due to Kamala, the dunce.

Try harder.


Again, your link is when Biden was president

My links are while Kamala is the candidate

The dynamics have changed


Perhaps it’s you that needs to try harder



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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2024, 10:17:06 pm »
I'm kind of curious as to how many of those people who claim Trump can only lose by cheating live anywhere near a major metropolitan area, or in a major college town.  Because from what I've seen, those areas lean heavily Democrat.  I live in Cleveland, and it is objectively difficult to find any Trump signs within the city.  I see more rainbow flags than American flags.  I live in the most conservative, Republican ward, and I've see exactly one house with a Trump sign.  Probably because the predominance of leftists here means your house or car will get vandalized.

This is what it is like in just about every major American city.  It's a huge base of support for any Democrat presidential candidate.

I'm near Houston with at least two major universities and they still have to cheat like hell to win anything in Harris County.

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« Reply #41 on: August 13, 2024, 10:34:52 pm »


This is what it is like in just about every major American city.  It's a huge base of support for any Democrat presidential candidate.

That’s the Democrat plan to win this fall. They know Trump will carry the rural areas. But if they can get their base in the urban areas out in large enough numbers, they’ll win
This is how Obama won re-election in 2012. In your state, for example, Romney did better than Obama amongst independents but lost the state
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2024, 12:01:07 am »
That’s the Democrat plan to win this fall. They know Trump will carry the rural areas. But if they can get their base in the urban areas out in large enough numbers, they’ll win
This is how Obama won re-election in 2012. In your state, for example, Romney did better than Obama amongst independents but lost the state

My point is that for Trump supporters to believe the only way for him to lose is cheating is just wrong.  It's based on the old "silent majority" idea that the "majority" is clearly on our side, which of course ignores the huge segments of the population that are Democrat-leaning voters.  And there are more than enough swing voters out there to decide an election either way without cheating.   Again, that's not saying cheating won't happen, but this election can be won - or lost - legitimately by either side.

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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2024, 12:05:35 am »
I live in Cleveland

You have my condolences.
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2024, 12:06:54 am »
I'm near Houston with at least two major universities and they still have to cheat like hell to win anything in Harris County.

I wouldn't call Cougar High a 'university'.
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« Reply #45 on: August 14, 2024, 05:28:16 am »
The general rank and file of the Democommie Party is just so ecstatic that they have a candidate that is not completely senile.  Yes, the debate was the 2 x 4 to the head that woke up these knuckleheads.

And for those of you that think Trump will retain the black and Hispanic votes he picked up, think again.  I know a fair number of black men, and one and all say Trump is Hitler.  Literally.  So, I fully expect a 90%+ vote of blacks for Harris, because she is black and Trump is Hitler.  It will not take much for this demographic to believe that bullsh*t through and through.

Tuesday, both Biden and Harris referenced Trump's support of of the Hitler folks in Charlottesville, VA.  The story is completely false, but truth does not matter today.  A bit ironic considering it is the Democommies crying about disinformation.

No, only those using their brain in the USA understand the truth, and the truth is that few people in the USA use their brain.  FEW!!!!!!!!

With each passing year, we become dumber as a nation, and the stats support that fact when looking where we stand with education against other nations.

We need a true leader more than we need a bad*ss.  That bad*ss has alienated half the nation.  They hate him, and the media is unified in preaching that hate, and the low intellect citizen eats up every word they say, like it is gospel.




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« Reply #46 on: August 14, 2024, 08:20:52 am »

We need a true leader more than we need a bad*ss.  That bad*ss has alienated half the nation.  They hate him, and the media is unified in preaching that hate, and the low intellect citizen eats up every word they say, like it is gospel.

That leaves Trump with a very narrow window to win.   He still can, I think, but he needs to run a better campaign than he has the last few weeks.


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« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2024, 07:13:25 pm »
Fair enough, as I don't trust polls either.

Notwithstanding polls, several high profile conservative minorities like Donalds, Sears and Scott as well as the DemtoGOP Dallas mayor Johnson, who have the ear of blacks who differ with Dem policy publicly.  They will have an influence in upcoming elections.

Trump does not just stand for the GOP.  He stands for upending the establishment antics that have caused massive inflation, illegals influx, destruction of social mores and the like.

To that end, Kamala is the same as Biden.
And now there is a high profile Latino group who has targeted Latinos who believe in American values to vote Republican.

Latino voters now moving away from Democrat candidates
In the past 4 years, millions of Latino-Americans have become eligible to vote, making the Latino population account for 14.7% of all eligible voters. This increasingly independent cohort is up for grabs
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August 17, 2024


In the past four years, approximately 4 million Latino Americans have become eligible to vote, making the Latino population account for 14.7% of all eligible voters. This increasingly independent cohort is up for grabs, and one conservative Latino-focused PAC intends to win them over.

The bloc was a key part of the coalition that helped deliver President Joe Biden to the White House in 2020. In 12 of the 13 states with the largest Latino populations, Latinos supported Biden over former President Donald Trump by a margin of at least two to one. And in nine of the 13 states, that margin was at least three to one. Only in Florida was Biden's margin less than two to one.

Biden achieved no extraordinary feat with these numbers – Latinos have historically voted Democrat. But recent polling suggests Latino voters are increasingly moving away from Democratic candidates – and toward independents. Pew Research polling from July showed that 36% of all registered Latinos supported Biden and 36% supported Trump, while 24% supported independent candidate Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

"What was happening on the Democratic side is that an increasing number of people …[were] choosing more independent," Clarissa Martinez, a voting expert with the advocacy group UnidosUS, told NPR. "[That] took away support from the traditional 60% level that Democrats have enjoyed, but it wasn't translating directly as support on the Republican side."

Now, as the country hurdles toward November at breakneck speed, the Koch-funded Libre Advocacy Group is trying to convince Latino voters that they should support the Republican Party at the ballot box.

Libre is "the only game in town when it comes to the center right," in the words of President Daniel Garza. The PAC operates in 15 different states and employs door-knocking to identify Latinos who are aligned with their ideals and "go after them," said Garza.

Libre is throwing its weight behind dozens of Republican Congressional candidates, including in the swing states of Arizona, Nevada, Michigan, and Pennsylvania. The candidates they endorse do not necessarily campaign on Latino-focused platforms, but that's not the point. Libre is interested in turning out support for candidates who are aligned with "American principles," Garza tells RCP.

"We support candidates who will uphold individual freedoms, limited government, private property – the kind of principles that have made America strong and will continue to make America strong," Garza said. "We feel that when policies are focused on making sure that everyone rises, then Latinos will rise automatically. We're not asking for special or exclusive policies that are targeted just at Latinos."

Libre has identified millions of like-minded Latinos by canvassing, hosting events, and teaching classes in competitive districts year-round, even on election off-years. Their database now consists of seven million Latino voters, an achievement Libre spokesperson Wadi Gaitan says they've earned through consistency.

"We don't parachute into neighborhoods. We're doing community events around the year, not just on election years, but on off years," Gaitan told RCP. "It's not just a 120-day sprint to try to introduce ourselves and tell them to vote a certain way. It's the relationship we've been building through the years in these communities."

Libre hopes to capitalize on disaffected Latino voters and their growing distaste for Democratic policies – especially economic. When Latino voters were asked to rank their top three issues, 54% of respondents answered "inflation/rising cost of living," and 44% answered "jobs and the economy." The following three answers were "health care" (33%), "crime/gun violence" (29%), and "lack of affordable housing/high rents" (25%). Three of the top five most important issues to Latino voters, then, were related to costs and the economy.

Libre is trying to make economic anxiety synonymous with the Democratic party. One of the ways they've done this is through a "BideNOmics" campaign in which Libre team members set up at Spanish grocery markets and restaurants in competitive districts and speak to patrons about policies they say have driven up inflation, like overspending and a failure to balance budgets.
https://www.wnd.com/2024/08/latino-voters-now-moving-away-from-democrat-candidates/
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Re: We Need a Badass in the White House
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2024, 10:52:14 pm »
Trump isn't a badass.  He's just a dumbass.