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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1175 on: February 11, 2025, 02:20:29 pm »
This is just plain preposterous.
Funny thing about that. Since the Clintons and Obama, so much of what the Dems have pulled was preposterous and read like a bad spy novel. The more outrageous it sounds, the better it is defended against by calling accusers "conspiracy theorists". That makes it worth checking out. PA was one state that was really questionable in 2020 in terms of electoral veracity. That was fostered somewhere.
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« Reply #1176 on: February 11, 2025, 02:20:59 pm »
If Shapiro was behind it, it would have succeeded.  Shapiro is too competent to miss.

The Secret Service put 4th-line players on the ice, and a school gun club flunkie missed.
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« Reply #1177 on: February 11, 2025, 02:23:03 pm »
This is just plain preposterous.

The fact the story is dead today, am guessing false flag.  Left is setting landmines left and right. 
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« Reply #1178 on: February 11, 2025, 02:24:31 pm »
If Shapiro was behind it, it would have succeeded.  Shapiro is too competent to miss.

The Secret Service put 4th-line players on the ice, and a school gun club flunkie missed.

Too many things still don't add up, like lack of transparity of the Kid's computer, phone, etc.  I am still thinking conspiratory here, but not Shapiro.
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« Reply #1179 on: February 11, 2025, 02:25:57 pm »
I live less than a mile from Pa., and follow Pa. news. This allegation against Shapiro is ridiculous.
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« Reply #1180 on: February 12, 2025, 07:33:16 am »
I live less than a mile from Pa., and follow Pa. news. This allegation against Shapiro is ridiculous.

Yeah, I live in south central Pennsylvania and this is a just more conspiracy theory wishful thinking nonsense based on the strong dislike of Shapiro.  I've got friends who're spreading this around on social media and just refuse to stop and think about it.  The calls for impeachment are stupid too because let's say that he is convicted and removed from office, then who would succeed him?

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The truth is, that all things considered, Shapiro is actually fairly moderate (unlike the commie Tom Wolf) and has not been a bad governor.  He's not a bomb thrower and has not done anything obnoxious or pushed the hard core woke agenda (although he's quietly allowed what Wolf put in place to remain).  And he was smart enough to run away from Harris.  Davis would be a disaster.
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« Reply #1181 on: February 12, 2025, 07:36:40 am »
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The truth is, that all things considered, Shapiro is actually fairly moderate (unlike the commie Tom Wolf)
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« Reply #1182 on: February 12, 2025, 08:44:43 am »


The truth is, that all things considered, Shapiro is actually fairly moderate

Same is said about Bill Clinton, but how much is that a ruse, considering he built the largest political crime syndicate on the planet, and an alleged body count that would make Capone jealous. 

I am thinking this is a dry hole too, but how many times in the 20 years have supposed conspiratoratory items become fact. We ignore them at the same peril.
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« Reply #1183 on: February 12, 2025, 08:52:06 am »
Same is said about Bill Clinton, but how much is that a ruse, considering he built the largest political crime syndicate on the planet, and an alleged body count that would make Capone jealous.

Shapiro is a different animal than Slick.  Even though he got his start as a "senior advisor" with Senator Robert "Torch" Toricelli, he pretty much keeps his closets free of skeletons, projects a thoroughly Jewish family man's image, and keeps close ties with Israel (which is why the far left hates him).  He's not as impulsive as Slick and carefully calculates everything, which makes him already a top contender for the 2028 Democrat nomination (if he can overcome the antisemitic Left in his party).
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1184 on: February 12, 2025, 10:28:29 am »
I live less than a mile from Pa., and follow Pa. news. This allegation against Shapiro is ridiculous.

And maybe in sixty years we'll find out that Shapiro and a bunch of other conspirators were involved.

Like now we know the JFK murder involved more than one shooter. Just like the 'conspiracy theorists' said all along.
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« Reply #1185 on: February 12, 2025, 10:44:28 am »
And maybe in sixty years we'll find out that Shapiro and a bunch of other conspirators were involved.

Like now we know the JFK murder involved more than one shooter. Just like the 'conspiracy theorists' said all along.

Too many implausible shit went on around Trump's 1st attempt. Including nothing was gathered off his electronics, and the mysteriousness of his disposal.    90% sure of a organized conspiracy there, but not enough dots to connect.....   Yet.
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« Reply #1186 on: February 12, 2025, 10:45:49 am »
Too many implausible shit went on around Trump's 1st attempt. Including nothing was gathered off his electronics, and the mysteriousness of his disposal.    90% sure of a organized conspiracy there, but not enough dots to connect.....   Yet.

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« Reply #1187 on: February 12, 2025, 12:30:25 pm »
Same is said about Bill Clinton, but how much is that a ruse, considering he built the largest political crime syndicate on the planet, and an alleged body count that would make Capone jealous. 

I am thinking this is a dry hole too, but how many times in the 20 years have supposed conspiratoratory items become fact. We ignore them at the same peril.
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« Reply #1188 on: February 27, 2025, 04:40:44 pm »
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Would-be Trump assassin Thomas Crooks may have had accomplice, data shows, as investigators say FBI suppressing info
By Dana Kennedy   
Published Feb. 27, 2025, 3:46 p.m. ET

BETHEL PARK, Pa. — It’s been almost nine months since a seemingly mild-mannered 20-year-old attempted to alter the course of history by trying to assassinate then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at a rally in Butler.

Sources told The Post the FBI has obstructed efforts to solve the mystery of why Thomas Matthew Crooks, who left no manifesto, did what he did. It’s left local law enforcement as well as Crooks’ former friends, classmates and teachers and even Elon Musk frustrated.

Those who may know, Crooks’ parents Matthew and Mary, have refused all interviews so far and remain in their small, three-bedroom home here, sealed off from the world like hermits. Neighbors say they only leave the house at 3am to buy groceries. ...

But a veteran private investigator from Erie, Penn., who was hired shortly after the fateful July 13 event at Butler Farm show grounds to look into Crooks by a private client, told The Post he believes a “criminal network” was operating with him at the time of the assassination attempt, is still in existence and still wants to kill President Trump.

Doug Hagmann, whose team of six other investigators have been working the case for months and have interviewed more than 100 people, said they also conducted extensive geofencing analysis of cell phones and tablets not belonging to Crooks that were found with him at his home, at the rifle range where he took target practice, at the rally and at Bethel Park High School where he graduated in 2022.

“We don’t think he acted alone,” Hagmann told The Post. “This took a lot of coordination. In my view, Crooks was handled by more than one individual and he was used for this [assassination attempt.] And I wouldn’t preclude the possibility that there were people at the rally itself helping him.” ...
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« Reply #1190 on: February 27, 2025, 05:21:24 pm »
Who was Crooks' Angela Lansbury?

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« Reply #1191 on: February 27, 2025, 05:45:32 pm »
I have never believed Crooks acted alone.

Was his accomplice an FBI agent or a Secret Service agent?
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« Reply #1192 on: February 27, 2025, 06:53:00 pm »
Was his accomplice an FBI agent or a Secret Service agent?

Don't know but it definitely was someone who had easy access to the other buildings and could move about at will.
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« Reply #1193 on: February 27, 2025, 08:46:52 pm »
Was his accomplice an FBI agent or a Secret Service agent?
Who said there was only one?
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« Reply #1194 on: February 27, 2025, 08:57:13 pm »
Was his accomplice an FBI agent or a Secret Service agent?

Likely both. 

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1195 on: February 28, 2025, 08:57:21 am »
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Who was Thomas Crooks on the phone with before he shot the President of the United States in the face?

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« Reply #1196 on: February 28, 2025, 10:45:46 am »
So, That's Why We Know So Little About Trump's Assassin
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The observation was well-warranted: We know more about Luigi Mangione, the alleged UnitedHealthcare CEO killer, than we do about Thomas Matthew Crooks, who tried to assassinate President Donald J. Trump in Butler, Pennsylvania, last July. Crooks was shot and killed during the attempt, but not after a slew of security breaches and all-around ineptitude from the Secret Service was exposed.

It was one of the few times where Democrats and Republicans found the Secret Service’s initial reasoning and demeanor after the attempt to be wholly unacceptable. Well, there seems to be a reason why Crooks has evaporated into the ether: the FBI is allegedly suppressing all information about the Trump assassin, which reportedly contains a possible lead on an accomplice. Granted, these aren’t federal investigators, but a private investigator tasked with finding some motive behind this attack. There’s also a congressional committee investigating this matter as well, so at some point, the FBI has to turn over everything if they are stonewalling, and we have a new director, Kash Patel, who isn’t going to deploy evasive maneuvers like previous FBI head Chris Wray (via NY Post):

    It’s been almost nine months since a seemingly mild-mannered 20-year-old attempted to assassinate then-Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump at a rally in Butler.

    And we still have no good reason why.

    Sources told The Post the FBI has obstructed efforts to solve the mystery of why Thomas Matthew Crooks, who left no manifesto, did what he did. It’s left local law enforcement as well as Crooks’ former friends, classmates and teachers frustrated.

    Those who may know, Crooks’ parents Matthew and Mary, have refused all interviews and remain in their small, three-bedroom home here, sealed off from the world like hermits. Neighbors say they only leave the house at 3 am to buy groceries.

    […]

     A veteran private investigator from Erie, Penn., who was hired shortly after the fateful July 13 event at Butler Farm to look into Crooks by a private client, told The Post he believes a “criminal network” was operating with him at the time of the assassination attempt, is still in existence and still wants to kill President Trump.

    Doug Hagmann, whose team of six other investigators have been working the case for months and have interviewed more than 100 people, said they also conducted extensive geofencing analysis of cell phones and tablets not belonging to Crooks that were found with him at his home, at the rifle range where he took target practice, at the rally and at Bethel Park High School where he graduated in 2022.

    “We don’t think he acted alone,” Hagmann told The Post.

    […]

    Rep. Clay Higgins (R-La.) — part of a bipartisan task force looking into Crooks’ actions and his death — found that it although a Secret Service sniper took him down with the kill shot, it was a local SWAT officer who made the shot that initially took him down — something the FBI did not report at the time.

    Higgins, who has also been investigating Crooks’ assassination attempt for months, has not seen Hagmann’s geofencing data but downplayed its significance. He told The Post he believes Crooks acted alone and there was no conspiracy. However, he also said the FBI continually obstructed his investigation.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1197 on: February 28, 2025, 10:51:40 am »

Would-Be Trump Assassin May Have Had An Accomplice, Bombshell Data Shows

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By Chris Powell
February 27, 2025



Investigators have reportedly uncovered new data suggesting that Thomas Matthew Crooks, the 20-year-old gunman who attempted to assassinate President Donald Trump, may not have acted alone. Despite the absence of a manifesto or clear motive, sources now claim Crooks may have had an accomplice—a revelation that raises more questions than answers.

Crooks’ parents, Matthew and Mary, have remained completely silent since the incident, refusing all media requests for interviews. The couple has effectively cut off communication with the outside world, retreating into their  home. Neighbors say they only leave the house under the cover of darkness, reportedly shopping for groceries at 3 a.m. to avoid public scrutiny.

While the FBI’s handling of the investigation remains opaque, sources close to the probe suggest new forensic and digital evidence could point to additional figures involved in planning or influencing Crooks’ actions. Law enforcement officials have not officially confirmed these reports, but many are demanding transparency amid concerns that crucial information is being withheld.

According to sources who spoke to The New York Post, the FBI has been obstructing local law enforcement’s efforts to fully investigate the case, leaving authorities, Crooks’ former acquaintances, and the public in the dark. Frustration is mounting as those who knew him—friends, classmates, and teachers—struggle to understand how an unassuming young man suddenly became the central figure in an attack that shook the nation.

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« Reply #1198 on: February 28, 2025, 10:52:48 am »
IF Crooks truly acted alone the Secret Service is broken beyond repair! I'll never believe he did.
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« Reply #1199 on: February 28, 2025, 10:55:24 am »
Post COVID, where can you shop for groceries at 3 AM.  Sure as hell, no where around here.   

I am going to hold back a little longer before, giving this some credence. 
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