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« Reply #1075 on: August 21, 2024, 06:56:31 pm »
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kinda weird a 20 year kid in Pennsylvania shooting guns at the same gun range used by DHS agents had an encrypted messaging account in Belgium, where NATO is headquartered.
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Trump shooter Thomas Crooks had encrypted messaging accounts in Belgium, Germany, New Zealand
By Josh Christenson   
Published Aug. 21, 2024, 4:26 p.m. ET
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 Trump rally gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks used encrypted messaging accounts on various platforms located in Belgium, New Zealand and Germany, according to a member of a congressional task force investigating his assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump.

Rep. Michael Waltz (R-Fla.), one of 13 lawmakers tapped to serve on the House bipartisan task force, told reporters at a Wednesday press conference at the Trump Hotel Chicago that the “overseas accounts” piqued his suspicion immediately regarding the shooter’s motives.”

“Why does a 19-year-old kid who is a health care aid need encrypted platforms not even based in the United States, but based abroad – where most terrorist organizations know it is harder for our law enforcement to get into?” asked Waltz. ...
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1076 on: August 22, 2024, 01:13:42 pm »
Why would ANYONE want to have email accounts the FBI can't monitor?  :pondering:
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« Reply #1077 on: August 22, 2024, 01:31:44 pm »
Why would ANYONE want to have email accounts the FBI can't monitor?  :pondering:
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« Reply #1078 on: August 22, 2024, 10:53:53 pm »
It was a government sponsored assassination attempt.  The accounts overseas spells that out, CLEARLY!!!

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« Reply #1079 on: August 23, 2024, 12:51:29 am »
It was a government sponsored assassination attempt.  The accounts overseas spells that out, CLEARLY!!!
Sure looks that way to me. In response to that failure, the Dems ejected their voted-for candidate and replaced him to get someone they could shine up and push hard enough to close the gap so they could steal another election.
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« Reply #1080 on: August 23, 2024, 07:49:02 am »
Secret Service agents put on leave after Trump assassination attempt: Report

A new report claims that multiple Secret Service agents have been placed on leave following the assassination attempt against former President Donald Trump at his July 13 campaign rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Three sources in the Secret Service Community told Real Clear Politics that several Secret Service agents at the agency’s Pittsburgh Field Office have been placed on administrative leave following the assassination attempt by Thomas Matthew Crooks that resulted in Trump being shot in the ear, two Trump supporters being seriously injured, and a retired fire chief being killed.

Real Clear Politics noted that administration leave typically involves a federal employee temporarily leaving their position due to an investigation into potential misconduct or for a medical or mental health reason. The outlet explained that while federal employees on administrative leave typically receive their usual pay and benefits, the agency’s leadership ultimately can decide whether or not to continue paying the employees.

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« Reply #1081 on: August 23, 2024, 11:09:31 am »
JUST IN - Multiple Secret Service agents “put on leave” over Trump assassination attempt.
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« Reply #1082 on: August 23, 2024, 11:27:07 am »
JUST IN - Multiple Secret Service agents “put on leave” over Trump assassination attempt.

Because he lived?

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« Reply #1083 on: August 23, 2024, 12:34:48 pm »
Because he lived?
Yep - a failed attempt.
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« Reply #1084 on: August 23, 2024, 12:42:09 pm »
As a matter of course, after a traumatic episode, LEOs have to endure and pass a psyche eval in order to be put back on active duty. That invariably leaves the LEO benched, or at best, riding a desk for a length of time.

Though I do wonder if the unqualified hires - the temps that were filling in - people without MIL/LEO background...

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« Reply #1085 on: August 23, 2024, 04:10:14 pm »
Secret Service told agents at the rally NOT to request additional resources

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« Reply #1086 on: August 23, 2024, 05:03:56 pm »
If Kamel-uh fails as she very well might, I hope DJT takes extraordinary measures for protection.  Hire the best
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« Reply #1087 on: August 23, 2024, 05:21:10 pm »

Yep - a failed attempt.
If you try to kill the king and fail, heads roll.
I am shocked that Rowe guy is still above ground, since he was the chief architect and director of the whole thing.
That Cheatle woman was a nepo-hire BFF friend of Jill. She was an airhead DEI type placeholder.

Rowe was the real guy running the show. He set the whole thing up and failed. He will 'disappear' soon. Surprised he has lasted this long. If Hillary was involved in any way, Rowe would have already have committed suicide.
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« Reply #1088 on: August 23, 2024, 05:44:52 pm »
If you try to kill the king and fail, heads roll.
I am shocked that Rowe guy is still above ground, since he was the chief architect and director of the whole thing.
That Cheatle woman was a nepo-hire BFF friend of Jill. She was an airhead DEI type placeholder.

Rowe was the real guy running the show. He set the whole thing up and failed. He will 'disappear' soon. Surprised he has lasted this long. If Hillary was involved in any way, Rowe would have already have committed suicide.
Rowe may have been running it. but the order came from higher up that food chain. Good lieutenants that can take a fall and keep their mouths shut are valuable to criminal operations. He will be looked after if he stays quiet.
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« Reply #1089 on: August 23, 2024, 05:52:30 pm »

Rowe may have been running it. but the order came from higher up that food chain. Good lieutenants that can take a fall and keep their mouths shut are valuable to criminal operations. He will be looked after if he stays quiet.
True. I agree. But with Trump coming in, the people who guided him may get nervous. He will certainly be fired, there is no doubt of that. Will he talk once he sees he has nothing to lose? Probably not, but the Hillary types never took any chances.

If I was Rowe, I would be very nervous. Failure for any reason, is generally not tolerated in those circles.
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1090 on: August 23, 2024, 07:10:48 pm »
Secret Service denied Butler agents extra manpower ahead of Trump rally shooting: Whistleblower
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August 23, 2024 5:07 pm
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A Secret Service department that handles manpower requests urged agents not to ask for additional security for the rally where an assassination attempt on former President Donald Trump occurred, according to a whistleblower report.

The whistleblower told Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) that the Secret Service Office of Protective Operations — Manpower essentially denied security assets “through informal means” by encouraging agents not to seek more manpower for the rally, Hawley wrote in a letter on Friday to Secret Service acting Director Ronald Rowe.

Hawley accused Rowe of giving inaccurate testimony when he appeared before the Senate in July and faced questions about the assassination attempt.

“If you’re talking about Butler, Pennsylvania, all assets requested were approved,” Rowe had testified.

Hawley said Rowe “must explain this apparent contradiction immediately” and asked the acting director to answer numerous questions about the event.

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« Reply #1091 on: August 24, 2024, 05:45:36 pm »
Just imagine our military being integrated with disabled people similarly.  We will all die or be speaking Chinese.


Judicial Watch: Secret Service Records Reveal DEI Is Prioritized for All Agency Employees in ‘Every Action, Every Day’
Judicial Watch announced today it received 311 pages of U.S. Secret Service (USSS) records that show the Secret Service has made it a top priority that “diversity and inclusion is not just ‘talked about’ – but demonstrated by all employees through ‘Every Action, Every Day.’” [Emphasis in original]

The records show the Secret Service, which is part of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), demands that 12 percent of its workforce be composed of “persons with disabilities,” and that it is the policy of the Secret Service to provide equal employment opportunity without regard to such non-merit factors as “disability (physical or mental).”

Judicial Watch obtained the records in a FOIA lawsuit against DHS for records relating to an incident in April at Joint Base Andrews in Maryland in which a Secret Service agent assigned to protect Vice President Kamala Harris got into a scuffle with colleagues (Judicial Watch v. Department of Homeland Security (No. 1:24-cv-01705)).

According to an April 24 report by the Washington Examiner, a Secret Service agent was removed from her duties after physically attacking the commanding agent in charge and other agents who tried to subdue her.

 A later report states: “The agents involved in restraining [Michelle] Herczeg were especially concerned because she still had her gun in the holster. They wrestled her to the ground, took the gun from her, cuffed her, and then removed her from the terminal.” The report also states that, following the incident at Joint Base Andrews, which is the home base for Air Force One and Air Force Two. “Secret Service agents and officers are privately questioning the hiring process and whether the agency had adequately screened Herczeg’s background.”

The newly obtained records include an undated document titled “Secret Service Inclusion and Engagement Council Charter: Changing the Game of Diversity and Inclusion,” in which the Secret Service puts forth a strategy for the council and establishes an “SES-level Executive Champion for Inclusion and Engagement:

The IEC’s collective duty is to help the Secret Service build, foster, create, and inspire a workforce where diversity and inclusion is not just “talked about” — but demonstrated by all employees through “Every Action, Every Day.” [Emphasis in original]

The document notes that the Secret Service’s Inclusion and Engagement Council “will not rely solely on the legal requirements underscoring the principles of EEO and the voluntary initiatives in Diversity programs; rather, the IEC will seek innovative solutions outside the agency’s mandated requirements to create a culture where differences are valued and appreciated, and employee engagement is encouraged.”

The “Inclusive Diversity Vision Statement” instructs: “To be the employer of choice and ‘gold standard’ for leveraging inclusive diversity by modeling the qualities of mutual respect, admiration, and appreciation for cultural differences and varying perspectives.”

A document dated fiscal year (FY) 2023 and titled “Affirmative Action Plan for the Recruitment, Hiring, Advancement, and Retention of Persons with Disabilities” states that the Secret Service should have a “numerical goal” to have “persons with disabilities” (PWDs) make up 12 percent of its workforce.

In a 2005 Secret Service “Human Resources and Training Manual,” the general provisions state that it is the policy of the Secret Service to provide equal employment opportunity without regard to such non-merit factors as “disability (physical or mental):”

It is the policy of the Secret Service to provide equal employment opportunity throughout the Service for all employees, former employees, and applicants for employment who are otherwise eligible and qualified, without regard to such non-merit factors as race, color, religion, sex, national origin, disability (physical or mental), parental status, protected genetic information, sexual orientation, age, or reprisal for objecting to discrimination or prior or current participation in the Equal Employment Opportunity (EEO) complaint process. This policy applies to appointments, details, career development, training, reassignments, promotions, and assignments of work, and to any other actions or situations affecting employment status where the possibility exists for consideration of non-merit factors.

 The document also outlines a program within Secret Service called “Special Emphasis Programs” that:

[A]re designed to assist the organization in meeting its affirmative action responsibilities. SEPs are affirmative action programs established to increase the representation, retention, and advancement of their constituent groups in underrepresented occupations and grades.[/i]
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1092 on: August 26, 2024, 08:39:13 am »
Trump talks dramatic details of failed assassination, admits ‘big lapse’ by Secret Service

Former President Donald Trump gave a detailed recounting of the failed assassination attempt against him and how he “knew exactly what was happening” at that moment.

Trump recalled the chain of events that unfolded on July 13 in Butler, Pennsylvania where his rally turned deadly as Thomas Matthew Crooks opened fire a few minutes into his speech. Trump’s ear was grazed by a bullet and two rally-goers were critically injured. A third attendee, retired firefighter Corey Comperatore, died trying to shield his family from the hail of bullets.

“A lot of times, and I was thinking about this, it would seem like a surreal moment—like you don’t realize almost where you are,” Trump told Breitbart News in an interview from his Palm Beach, Florida home after the attempt on his life.

“I never felt that. I knew immediately I got hit by a bullet.”

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #1093 on: August 26, 2024, 03:50:43 pm »

Trump Shooter’s Father Makes Eye-Popping Move As FBI Probe Heats Up

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Mark Steffen
August 26, 2024

The father of Trump shooter Thomas Crooks is lawyering up as the FBI probe expands into what his family knew and when following the July 13th assassination attempt.

The Daily Mail reports that Matthew Crooks, 53, and his wife have hired powerhouse Pittsburgh law firm Quinn Logue as it prepares to answer pointed questions from the Bureau about how the 20-year-old gunman was able to evade online dragnets searching for individuals suspected of taking future violent action against former President Donald Trump, Vice President Kamala Harris, President Joe Biden, and former presidents and presidential candidates. Matthew and his wife Mary, 53, will benefit from attorneys specializing in criminal defense and civil suits including wrongful death and personal injury. A family member told the outlet, “The FBI still very much has questions about how much they knew and how he [Thomas] slipped through the net.”

Ongoing investigations into Thomas Crooks took on new urgency last week when Congressman Mike Waltz (R-FL) suggested that Thomas Crooks may not have acted alone. The Florida Republican hazarded a guess based on classified briefings he was privy to as part of a bipartisan U.S. House committee aiding the FBI in its investigation. “I don’t understand, and I don’t have any answers yet to help me understand how the [Secret] Service and DHS came out so quickly and said – and I think the FBI as well, but I’ll have to check that – and said, he operated alone,” Waltz said last week “How do you know that mere days into your investigation? You can’t tell us his motive, but you could tell us he operated alone? You can’t get into these encrypted overseas accounts, but you can tell us he acted alone? So, I don’t buy that yet.”

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« Reply #1094 on: August 27, 2024, 06:53:07 pm »

Trump rally counter-sniper Ben Shaffer gives damning verdict on FBI 'evidence tampering' after assassination attempt

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27 August 2024

A SWAT counter-sniper who was working the Trump rally in Pennsylvania where a gunman opened fire has issued a damning verdict on the FBI's alleged evidence tampering.

Washington Regional SWAT counter-sniper Ben Shaffer admitted that it was 'absolutely' concerning that the roof of the AGR International building where gunman Thomas Matthew Crook, 20, was cleaned quickly after the July 13 assassination attempt.

He also agreed with Republican lawmakers that it was suspicious that Crooks' body was disposed of before an official autopsy could be released at a panel discussion hosted by the Heritage Foundation on Monday.

Shaffer then went on to acknowledge that Crooks should have been elevated from a 'person of interest' to someone 'who would have warranted some type of investigatory detention' by agents because he was using a range finder.

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« Reply #1095 on: August 27, 2024, 07:17:49 pm »
Trump attempted assassination task force visits Butler Farm Show grounds
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Updated on: August 26, 2024 / 9:39 PM EDT / CBS Pittsburgh
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Members of the task force on the attempted assassination of former President Donald Trump were in Butler County assessing the Butler Farm Show grounds on Monday. ...

The task force, which includes Republican U.S. Rep. Mike Kelly of Butler and Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado, got a firsthand look at the venue and surrounding areas on Monday. They also planned to talk with local law enforcement officials about what happened that day.

Perhaps the most dramatic moment of the tour was when members of Congress were on the roof of the AGR building, where gunman Thomas Matthew Crooks fired eight shots, injuring Trump, David Dutch and Jim Copenhaver and killing Corey Comperatore. But what really stood out to many was how small the farm show space is and how close the buildings are to each other.  ...

Reporters asked if the task force had received all of the documents it requested from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, United States Secret Service and the FBI, and members said they have not.  ...
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« Reply #1096 on: August 30, 2024, 07:43:02 am »
FBI reveals new details on Trump shooter

American Military News by Timothy Frudd  August 29, 2024

Following an FBI conference call briefing on Wednesday, USA Today reported that the agency’s analysis of would-be assassin Thomas Matthew Crooks’ online search history showed that Crooks had carried out “detailed attack planning” prior to the Butler rally. Kevin Rojek, the special agent in charge of the FBI’s field office in Pittsburgh, noted that the FBI’s analysis revealed “valuable insight into his mindset, but not a definitive motive.”

Fox News reported that Rojek said an account linked to Crooks “searched the former president’s campaign schedule and upcoming appearances in Pennsylvania” in September of 2023. During the month prior to the assassination attempt, Crooks conducted over 60 online searches related to Trump and President Joe Biden.

“The subject registered to attend the rally, and that same day he specifically searched for, ‘How far was Oswald from Kennedy?’ ‘Where will Trump speak from at Butler Farm Show,’ ‘Butler Farm show podium,’ and ‘Butler Farm show photos,'” Rojek said. “On July 8, the subject search ‘AGR international.’ And on July 10, he searched ‘weather in Butler.'”

According to USA Today, Rojek said that the analysis of Crooks’ search history showed that from September of 2019 until the assassination attempt against the former president, Crooks searched multiple times for information regarding explosive devices, including “blasting cap,” “detonating cord,” “how do remote detonators work,” and “how to make a bomb from fertilizer.” Rojek also said the Trump shooter searched for nitrate, nitromethane, ammonium, and other materials that can be used to make explosive devices.

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« Reply #1097 on: August 30, 2024, 08:31:06 am »
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... But Trump doesn't appear to have been the only potential target.

Rojek said between April and July of 2024, Crooks searched campaign events for both Trump and President Joe Biden, including events that were scheduled to happen in western Pennsylvania. The bureau uncovered searches on July 5 for, "When is the DNC convention," and "When is the RNC in 2024," apparent references to the Democratic and Republican National Conventions ahead of the 2024 presidential election. ...

Rojek clarified that the FBI remains in contact with Crooks' family members, who he said have been "extremely cooperative."

Law enforcement released Crooks' body to them after Pennsylvania's Allegheny County Office of the Medical Examiner conducted an autopsy and the FBI and Pennsylvania State Police both agreed with the Butler County Coroner's Office's decision to release the remains.

"I want to stress that it is not standard procedure or practice for the FBI or any law enforcement agency to request that the coroner or medical examiner maintain indefinite custody of a deceased subject's body once the investigative purposes of our agency and our partner agencies are completed," he said. ...
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I saw another story where the FBI declared it a "crime of opportunity," implying that if Joe Biden had been anywhere near Pittsburgh that day, Crooks would have shot him. I find that hard to believe.
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« Reply #1098 on: August 30, 2024, 05:36:19 pm »
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I saw another story where the FBI declared it a "crime of opportunity," implying that if Joe Biden had been anywhere near Pittsburgh that day, Crooks would have shot him.  :pop41:
"I find that hard to believe."

Why do you find it hard to believe?

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« Reply #1099 on: August 30, 2024, 05:50:00 pm »
The FBI is stuffed full of actual criminals.
The FBI works for the DNC.
The FBI is lying with every sentence they publish.
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