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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #625 on: July 20, 2024, 05:24:10 pm »
Trump told the SS to wait (fact) and fought them the whole to get his fist bumps out there and his "fight fight fight". Trump is a big old fat boy compared to Reagan so there is also that. No fist bumps from Reagan. Reagan complied for the most part. Reagon was also actually shot in the lung I believe and that would take the fight out of ya.
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« Reply #626 on: July 20, 2024, 06:18:46 pm »
Fox News reports that a local sniper team *did* fire a shot during the assasination attempt on Donald Trump.  The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate shooters as the incident unfolded.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814735344195281196
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« Reply #627 on: July 20, 2024, 06:21:36 pm »
Fox News reports that a local sniper team *did* fire a shot during the assasination attempt on Donald Trump.  The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate shooters as the incident unfolded.

And a week into the 'investigation' [sic], the Secret Service still doesn't know whether the shot from 'third shooter' struck the victim.
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« Reply #628 on: July 20, 2024, 06:26:51 pm »
And a week into the 'investigation' [sic], the Secret Service still doesn't know whether the shot from 'third shooter' struck the victim.
I don't expect to have access to an ongoing criminal investigation, but they sure are quick to tell us a few things (He acted alone! He drove a Chevy van, er, Hyundai! He looked at porn before departing Bethel Park!) but nothing on how many guns, how many types of ammunition, who fired which type of weapon, etc.
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« Reply #629 on: July 20, 2024, 06:32:08 pm »
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BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump. 

The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
 
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking out Crooks but missed.
 
A USSS sn*per was the one who took out Crooks in what they call a "one in a million shot."

"We're also told a local police sn*per took a single shot as well, but missed."


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« Reply #630 on: July 20, 2024, 06:54:53 pm »
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BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump. 

The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
 
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking out Crooks but missed.
 
A USSS sn*per was the one who took out Crooks in what they call a "one in a million shot."

"We're also told a local police sn*per took a single shot as well, but missed."

Am I reading this correctly?  Three shooters besides Crooks?  Four total?
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« Reply #631 on: July 20, 2024, 06:59:23 pm »
No. 3 Total!

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« Reply #632 on: July 20, 2024, 07:01:38 pm »
Am I reading this correctly?  Three shooters besides Crooks?  Four total?

No. There is only one local sniper. USSS sniper. Crooks.
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« Reply #633 on: July 20, 2024, 07:21:49 pm »
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EXCLUSIVE Doctors say antidepressants may have pushed Trump shooter Thomas Crooks over the edge - as concerning new details emerge
By Cassidy Morrison Senior Health Reporter For Dailymail.Com
Published: 06:25 EDT, 20 July 2024 | Updated: 12:41 EDT, 20 July 2024

Details are beginning to emerge about the state of mind of Donald Trump's would-be assassin after the FBI gained access to his cellphone this week.

Though no concrete motive has been established, Thomas Crooks' internet history revealed he searched for information about 'major depressive disorder' in the days leading up the attack on July 13.

Psychologists say the condition, a clinical term to describe depression that lasts a long time and affects everyday life, is typically marked by hatred of oneself.  ...

A review of Crooks' phones and computer by the FBI found he had Googled major depressive disorder.

However, it was not clear whether he had been diagnosed with the condition, which affects around 17 million adults in the US. ...
Sounds like just a bit too much speculation. Why did the FBI release this tidbit? Not that I'd doubt it, considering just about every young shooter in the past several years has been on some kind of prescribed drug for a mental illness.

Trump shooter Thomas Crooks was not a member of rifle team, wasn’t bullied despite previous reports, school district claims.

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1814714020676374889
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« Reply #634 on: July 20, 2024, 07:33:22 pm »
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This is probably the most in depth
analysis l've seen of what Crooks was able to pull off at the Trump Rally in Butler, PA.

The Director of Secret Service Kimberly Cheatle and Mayorkas must be fired immediately for their lack of transparency.

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« Reply #635 on: July 20, 2024, 07:33:32 pm »
Am I reading this correctly?  Three shooters besides Crooks?  Four total?

AND THEY ALLLLL MISSED.  :laugh:

We really have to get some better spooks.

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« Reply #636 on: July 20, 2024, 07:35:58 pm »
AND THEY ALLLLL MISSED.  :laugh:

We really have to get some better spooks.

Crooks didn't kill himself.
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« Reply #637 on: July 20, 2024, 07:40:04 pm »
It is crazy how speculative and unknown this event remains. Broad daylight.  Countless recordings. And yet, no A-B-C briefing by authorities on the ground or in DC.

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« Reply #638 on: July 20, 2024, 07:42:06 pm »
It is crazy how speculative and unknown this event remains. Broad daylight.  Countless recordings. And yet, no A-B-C briefing by authorities on the ground or in DC.

We are constant dupes.

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« Reply #639 on: July 20, 2024, 07:48:40 pm »
It is crazy how speculative and unknown this event remains. Broad daylight.  Countless recordings. And yet, no A-B-C briefing by authorities on the ground or in DC.

We are constant dupes.
"no A-B-C briefing by authorities on the ground or in DC"

They're all in CYA mode.

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« Reply #640 on: July 20, 2024, 07:57:12 pm »
Crooks didn't kill himself.

Are you sure?

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« Reply #642 on: July 20, 2024, 08:46:12 pm »
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #643 on: July 20, 2024, 08:49:15 pm »
Fox News reports that a local sniper team *did* fire a shot during the assasination attempt on Donald Trump.  The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate shooters as the incident unfolded.

https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814735344195281196

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« Reply #644 on: July 20, 2024, 09:05:33 pm »
The Grassy Knoll looks suspicious, sitting on that water tower.....

I would think it came from a window in the building immediately BEHIND Crooks...killing him.  :shrug:
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« Reply #645 on: July 20, 2024, 09:14:19 pm »
Sounds like just a bit too much speculation. Why did the FBI release this tidbit? Not that I'd doubt it, considering just about every young shooter in the past several years has been on some kind of prescribed drug for a mental illness.

Trump shooter Thomas Crooks was not a member of rifle team, wasn’t bullied despite previous reports, school district claims.

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1814714020676374889
Sounds like a WAG, and as usual an attempt to turn the shooter into the victim.  :pondering: Seems to me I have seen tis before, like every time the shooter/killer isn't a White straight Christian male.

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« Reply #646 on: July 20, 2024, 10:09:19 pm »
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« Reply #647 on: July 20, 2024, 10:09:37 pm »
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BREAKING: Fox News reports that a local sn*per team *did* fire a shot during the assas*ination attempt on Donald Trump. 

The development appears to confirm that there were indeed three separate sho*ters as the incident unfolded.
 
According to Fox, a local sn*per tried taking out Crooks but missed.
 
A USSS sn*per was the one who took out Crooks in what they call a "one in a million shot."

"We're also told a local police sn*per took a single shot as well, but missed."


https://twitter.com/CollinRugg/status/1814735344195281196
@roamer_1  Interesting that comes out after this: (see video at link)
https://www.rightjournalism.com/theres-another-disturbing-update-on-the-trump-assassination-attempt-this-could-change-everything-video/#google_vignette
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« Reply #648 on: July 20, 2024, 10:38:59 pm »
@roamer_1  Interesting that comes out after this: (see video at link)
https://www.rightjournalism.com/theres-another-disturbing-update-on-the-trump-assassination-attempt-this-could-change-everything-video/#google_vignette

I am on the record here saying the acoustics are messed up.

In the original vid there are three big reports, then a smattering of quiet fire, with at least two more biig reports (I think three)

The quiet(er) fire sounds like that .223 from 130 yds away. But that doesn't explain the loud(er) reports.
To underscore that, the VCM tape - The one where you can hear someone calling Crooks by name, in that you can hear him shooting - a rat-a-tat in quick succession - a pretty quiet rifle, like a .223 would be. I counted eight shots, like I said, in quick succession.

The loud reports sound like bigger iron. Somebody said .308... Somebody said 300 winmag. I can buy that... Though the sound is pretty skinny for a 300 win.

I ain't been around a whole lot of .223/.243/5.56 stuff myself - That's just a varmint gun around here. But I have been around em... .223 particular. Louder than a .22LR, but not by that much. You and me, we could maintain a conversation in a regular voice while poppin them off - I know because I have done it, shooting after coyotes.

So I have a hard time believing those big reports are the shooter.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #649 on: July 21, 2024, 12:50:14 am »
I am on the record here saying the acoustics are messed up.

In the original vid there are three big reports, then a smattering of quiet fire, with at least two more biig reports (I think three)

The quiet(er) fire sounds like that .223 from 130 yds away. But that doesn't explain the loud(er) reports.
To underscore that, the VCM tape - The one where you can hear someone calling Crooks by name, in that you can hear him shooting - a rat-a-tat in quick succession - a pretty quiet rifle, like a .223 would be. I counted eight shots, like I said, in quick succession.

The loud reports sound like bigger iron. Somebody said .308... Somebody said 300 winmag. I can buy that... Though the sound is pretty skinny for a 300 win.

I ain't been around a whole lot of .223/.243/5.56 stuff myself - That's just a varmint gun around here. But I have been around em... .223 particular. Louder than a .22LR, but not by that much. You and me, we could maintain a conversation in a regular voice while poppin them off - I know because I have done it, shooting after coyotes.

So I have a hard time believing those big reports are the shooter.
It all depends on the rifle. I had a Mini-14 that barked right proper, as loud as any .30 caliber rifle I own.

The salient point, especially comparing bullet cracks to muzzle sound (cause the bullet is faster, the sound arrives later, and the lag should be the same for every shot fired from the same rifle in the same place). Only they aren't.  That means more rifles. Check out the video. The analysis seems pretty tight to me.
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