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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #250 on: July 16, 2024, 02:33:48 pm »
   With Trump recently saying that Pompeo talked him out of what was Legally required~Release all the JFK assassination records, He now says he'll do it. 
   I'd bet also he'll get to the bottom of this assassination attempt on him and release ALL THE RECORDS on this.
   Some heads will indubitably roll, no doubt.

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« Reply #251 on: July 16, 2024, 02:36:10 pm »
   With Trump recently saying that Pompeo talked him out of what was Legally required~Release all the JFK assassination records, He now says he'll do it. 
   I'd bet also he'll get to the bottom of this assassination attempt on him and release ALL THE RECORDS on this.
   Some heads will indubitably roll, no doubt.

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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #252 on: July 16, 2024, 02:44:50 pm »
Local police official warns that Secret Service director is improperly pointing blame at local police for the federal security agency's own plan to protect Trump at rally, an event Secret Service controls.

https://twitter.com/CarolLeonnig/status/1813274577025323060
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« Reply #253 on: July 16, 2024, 02:48:57 pm »
We will likely NEVER know what actually happened here but it's 100% certain that the official report will be total BS. It's happened before.

There is zero credibility and getting worse with every passing hour.

And they don’t care.
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« Reply #254 on: July 16, 2024, 02:57:26 pm »
There is zero credibility and getting worse with every passing hour.

And they don’t care.

Leave it to you to boil it all down @Lando Lincoln Thank you!
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #255 on: July 16, 2024, 03:21:03 pm »
Sources confirm “JOINT FBI/DHS INTELLIGENCE BULLETIN”
BULLETIN excerpts including Crooks movements before the attack and shipping history.

https://twitter.com/C__Herridge/status/1813287662792642868

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This is a CYA.  If there was a heightened threat level, they would not have sent their understaffed B team, and they would not have made DOZENS of 'ROOKIE' MISTAKES.
My view is they knew about the threat assessment and made it EASIER for perpetrators to execute the threat.
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The gun shop where he bought his ammo was one I was planning to visit soon to have them check over my father's WWII pistol. Apparently, the media are trying to make a big deal of it, as if the clerk knew that particular customer was planning to drive up to Butler and start shooting people.
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« Reply #257 on: July 16, 2024, 03:26:51 pm »
The ladder we've seen in photos propped against the building atop which Crooks set up was a lot longer than 12'.  :pondering:
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« Reply #258 on: July 16, 2024, 03:27:50 pm »
These questions need answering:

1.  Have they recovered all the spent rounds, and if so, are all of them matched with known weapons?

2.  How did the ladder get there?

3.  Where precisely did the shots that killed Crooks come from?

4.  Why isn't there a single reporter asking any of the questions above?
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« Reply #259 on: July 16, 2024, 03:29:58 pm »
These questions need answering:
1.  Have they recovered all the spent rounds, and if so, are all of them matched with known weapons?
2.  How did the ladder get there?
3.  Where precisely did the shots that killed Crooks come from?
4.  Why isn't there a single reporter asking any of the questions above?
We've been pondering those very points at my house. Isn't it S.O.P. in a shooting investigation to scour the grounds for every single spent round, every shell casing, and see whether they came from the same gun - and determine the point from which each round was fired?
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« Reply #260 on: July 16, 2024, 03:33:47 pm »
We've been pondering those very points at my house. Isn't it S.O.P. in a shooting investigation to scour the grounds for every single spent round, every shell casing, and see whether they came from the same gun - and determine the point from which each round was fired?

They will recover nothing from the rifle from which the near fatal round came, The shell casing was still in the pro's rifle when he exited the scene.
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« Reply #261 on: July 16, 2024, 03:46:42 pm »
Paul tested this... and found no difference to note... the differences are too insignificant to notice. Basically the same speeds and accuracy when shooting ammo with similar specs.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTgGhIcR_Mk
I guess that depends on your definition of insignificant At 100 yards, the .223 will shoot a 55-grain bullet at 2,849 ft/s, which is 109 ft/s faster than the 5.56’s 2,740 ft https://www.sportsmans.com/5-56-vs-223-cartridge#:~:text=223%20Remington%20is%20slightly%20faster,ft%2Fs%2C%20with%20the%20.
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« Reply #262 on: July 16, 2024, 03:58:03 pm »
Leave it to you to boil it all down @Lando Lincoln Thank you!

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« Reply #263 on: July 16, 2024, 03:58:14 pm »
UNSEEN FOOTAGE shows Secret Service and state police scrambling as there was no apparent contingency plan to get the reactionary squad through the fence. T

https://twitter.com/the_typical_lib/status/1813284903150109076

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« Reply #264 on: July 16, 2024, 04:16:23 pm »
UNSEEN FOOTAGE shows Secret Service and state police scrambling as there was no apparent contingency plan to get the reactionary squad through the fence.


https://twitter.com/the_typical_lib/status/1813284903150109076


One would think that the team that was already in the building could have simply stepped outside and served as the reactonary squad, thus saving the officers in the video above the trouble of destroying that fence.
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« Reply #265 on: July 16, 2024, 04:29:18 pm »

https://twitter.com/JsnFostr/status/1813220922926493932
Can someone post a copy of the picture from page 6 of this thread.
It shows the CAT officers on ...wait for it..... a sloped rood, tha appears to be steeper than the one the shooter used.
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« Reply #266 on: July 16, 2024, 04:34:12 pm »
Elon Musk posted a photo on X of a Secret Service agent standing on the roof of the White House, and it's a heck of a lot more sloped than the building in Butler.
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« Reply #267 on: July 16, 2024, 04:44:04 pm »
So many questions.... Did the kid scope out the area days before and happen to discover a 20 foot ladder? How did the gun get there, surely he didn't carry it in, it had to be stashed. If stashed, was it so well hidden that nobody could stumble across it... (or going conspiracy, was it put out for him at the last minutes with an inside job).

Was the area open to "visitors" days before the event... ? Did the kid have a VPN to obscure searches, I do, because it ain't nobody's business what I search for (MEGA Chocolate Pudding recipes, in case the FBI/CIA are interested)...

Sloped roofs my butt, it couldn't of been that steep, steep enough to shed rainwater at best... If the FBI wanted to make an excuse they could of cited the ability to hold weight of a full cad sniper as an excuse and of been more believable.

Lastly, the kid that had no record had his DNA in FBI databases... Hummm.... He had no ID on him, so did they get ID from his car or some DNA Heritage test his folks took?
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« Reply #268 on: July 16, 2024, 04:52:04 pm »
So many questions.... Did the kid scope out the area days before and happen to discover a 20 foot ladder? How did the gun get there, surely he didn't carry it in, it had to be stashed. If stashed, was it so well hidden that nobody could stumble across it... (or going conspiracy, was it put out for him at the last minutes with an inside job).

Was the area open to "visitors" days before the event... ? Did the kid have a VPN to obscure searches, I do, because it ain't nobody's business what I search for (MEGA Chocolate Pudding recipes, in case the FBI/CIA are interested)...

Sloped roofs my butt, it couldn't of been that steep, steep enough to shed rainwater at best... If the FBI wanted to make an excuse they could of cited the ability to hold weight of a full cad sniper as an excuse and of been more believable.

Lastly, the kid that had no record had his DNA in FBI databases... Hummm.... He had no ID on him, so did they get ID from his car or some DNA Heritage test his folks took?

He could have brought the gun broke down in his backpack.

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« Reply #269 on: July 16, 2024, 04:55:25 pm »
Truly amazing that Geeky McAssassin had no problem not falling off the roof, huh?
Didn't even roll/slide off it dead. Must be a bitch of a pitch on that roof. (Any flatter, water would pool there).
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« Reply #270 on: July 16, 2024, 05:00:15 pm »
We will likely NEVER know what actually happened here but it's 100% certain that the official report will be total BS. It's happened before.
(Underscore added) THAT pretty much sums it up.
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« Reply #271 on: July 16, 2024, 05:07:45 pm »

One would think that the team that was already in the building could have simply stepped outside and served as the reactonary squad, thus saving the officers in the video above the trouble of destroying that fence.
This is keystone cops type of stuff
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« Reply #272 on: July 16, 2024, 05:07:45 pm »
Can someone post a copy of the picture from page 6 of this thread.
It shows the CAT officers on ...wait for it..... a sloped rood, tha appears to be steeper than the one the shooter used.
THese are people who should be prepared t place themselves between the President (or other principal) and 'take a bullet", but a mildly sloped roof is too dangerous?

Blue collar (and much of) America isn't buying this. How many of us have gone onto a more severely pitched roof to recover a child's toy or for other purposes?
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Re: Thread 2...Assassination Attempt Of Pres. Trump [update]
« Reply #273 on: July 16, 2024, 05:43:23 pm »
He could have brought the gun broke down in his backpack.

At this point, we don't even know if the bullets that struck Trump and killed Comperatore came from that gun.
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« Reply #274 on: July 16, 2024, 05:50:48 pm »
So many questions.... Did the kid scope out the area days before and happen to discover a 20 foot ladder? How did the gun get there, surely he didn't carry it in, it had to be stashed. If stashed, was it so well hidden that nobody could stumble across it... (or going conspiracy, was it put out for him at the last minutes with an inside job).

Was the area open to "visitors" days before the event... ? Did the kid have a VPN to obscure searches, I do, because it ain't nobody's business what I search for (MEGA Chocolate Pudding recipes, in case the FBI/CIA are interested)...

Sloped roofs my butt, it couldn't of been that steep, steep enough to shed rainwater at best... If the FBI wanted to make an excuse they could of cited the ability to hold weight of a full cad sniper as an excuse and of been more believable.

Lastly, the kid that had no record had his DNA in FBI databases... Hummm.... He had no ID on him, so did they get ID from his car or some DNA Heritage test his folks took?
They're saying he bought a 12' ladder (only 12'? Was the roof that low?) at Home Depot on Friday. I assume it was the HD in Bethel Park that is very close to his parents' house, unlike the rifle range at which he reportedly practiced.
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