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Who will step in and save the dems?

VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS
5 (15.6%)
CALIFORNIA GOV. GAVIN NEWSOM
3 (9.4%)
MICHIGAN GOV. GRETCHEN WHITMER
1 (3.1%)
KENTUCKY GOV. ANDY BESHEAR
4 (12.5%)
PENNSYLVANIA GOV. JOSH SHAPIRO
2 (6.3%)
TRANSPORTATION SECRETARY PETE BUTTIGIEG
2 (6.3%)
WTF Cares (stoner option)
6 (18.8%)
Big Mike Obama
9 (28.1%)

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Who will step in and save the dems?
« on: July 03, 2024, 01:19:23 pm »
Shadow campaigns: 7 Democratic candidates who could step in if President Biden drops out of 2024 race

Story by Andrew Miller


President Biden’s widely panned debate performance has sparked a firestorm of speculation on whether Democrats will switch horses midstream and select a new presidential nominee from a generally accepted list of candidates.

VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS

Harris, 59, would seemingly be the most logical fit, offering the smoothest transition given her position as vice president, and some calls for her to step in have already been issued.

"After deep reflection over these past few days, I strongly believe that our best path forward is Kamala Harris," Tim Ryan, the former Democratic congressman and presidential candidate, wrote in Newsweek on Monday.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/shadow-campaigns-7-democratic-candidates-who-could-step-in-if-president-biden-drops-out-of-2024-race/ar-BB1pijAB?ocid=BingNewsSerp
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2024, 01:22:58 pm »
   Beshear & Dominion would give Trump trouble, IMHO.
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« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2024, 01:31:00 pm »
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« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2024, 01:42:33 pm »
It will be somebody young, new and fresh who is  a Bill Clinton 2.0 moderate.. A Beshear or Lara Kelly from Kansas type. That person along with the new Vp has already been picked. Biden is in on it. They are holding out.



People will remember the great Clinton years, roaring economy, balanced budget, welfare reform, cracked down on crime (with help from Newt and the gang).
 The Orange Turd will not know what hit him.
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2024, 01:48:16 pm »
Corbe, I have 3:1 odds it will be Big Mike.  She's not on the list.
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2024, 01:53:11 pm »
Corbe, I have 3:1 odds it will be Big Mike.  She's not on the list.

I agree.  Big Mike will be on the DEM ticket.

Trump will trounce all those mentioned, but Big Mike will be very difficult for him to beat.
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2024, 01:53:37 pm »
Corbe, I have 3:1 odds it will be Big Mike.  She's not on the list.

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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2024, 01:57:56 pm »
Big Mike
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« Reply #8 on: July 03, 2024, 02:01:08 pm »
   Now with Swinging Big Di*k Mike goodness!!!!   :yowsa:
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #9 on: July 03, 2024, 02:02:31 pm »
If the Dems want salvation, they'd better find Jesus.
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2024, 02:03:57 pm »
WOW!!!!!!!!

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/democratic-nomination

Vegas odds at this exact moment of choice of dim nominee...

Harris- 37.8%
Biden- 29.6%
Mewsome- 15.6%
Whitmer- 6.8%
Obama- 6.8%
Clinton- 2.8%
Buttplug- 0.7%
Sanders- 0.5%
Warren- 0.5%
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2024, 02:07:27 pm »
It will be somebody young, new and fresh who is  a Bill Clinton 2.0 moderate.. A Beshear or Lara Kelly from Kansas type. That person along with the new Vp has already been picked. Biden is in on it. They are holding out.



People will remember the great Clinton years, roaring economy, balanced budget, welfare reform, cracked down on crime (with help from Newt and the gang).
 The Orange Turd will not know what hit him.
Great Clinton years????  Yes he balanced the budget BUT he was the one that brought embarrassment and the DEM underhandedness, and corruption to the presidency.

Orange Turd?  Seriously????  He's the one person running against the liberal bat crap crazy mental midgets!

Yes, I think most of us realize that Joe was merely a place holder to allow Soros/Obama & company to run our Republic into the ground. They've selected who they want long ago.

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« Reply #12 on: July 03, 2024, 02:11:06 pm »



People will remember the great Clinton years, roaring economy, balanced budget, welfare reform, cracked down on crime (with help from Newt and the gang).
 The Orange Turd will not know what hit him.

Everything you cite, has Gingrich's fingerprints on it, and all Slick Willie had to do was sign.
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« Reply #13 on: July 03, 2024, 02:17:54 pm »
It will be somebody young, new and fresh who is  a Bill Clinton 2.0 moderate.. A Beshear or Lara Kelly from Kansas type. That person along with the new Vp has already been picked. Biden is in on it. They are holding out.



People will remember the great Clinton years, roaring economy, balanced budget, welfare reform, cracked down on crime (with help from Newt and the gang).
 The Orange Turd will not know what hit him.
Great Clinton Years? The Waco massacre? 'Assault Weapons' Ban? Janet (there is no evidence which exists) Reno? Whitewater? Web Hubbel? Condoms on the White House Christmas tree? Mena, coke, and Barry Seals? (Why is it that there is so much snow around the White House when a Dem is in office?)

If you're going to give anyone credit for a balanced Budget, that should go to Newt Gingrich, because revenue measures originate in the House, as required by the Constitution.
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« Reply #14 on: July 03, 2024, 02:21:45 pm »
Thanks for the poll @corbe. Well done.
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« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2024, 02:22:53 pm »
Everything you cite, has Gingrich's fingerprints on it, and all Slick Willie had to do was sign.

And don’t forget the dot com bubble.
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« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2024, 02:25:37 pm »
WOW!!!!!!!!

https://www.realclearpolling.com/betting-odds/2024/democratic-nomination

Vegas odds at this exact moment of choice of dim nominee...

Harris- 37.8%
Biden- 29.6%
Mewsome- 15.6%
Whitmer- 6.8%
Obama- 6.8%
Clinton- 2.8%
Buttplug- 0.7%
Sanders- 0.5%
Warren- 0.5%

I still think they'll keep Harris (which will make things easier for ow) and Harris will pick Big Mike as her VP.  They'll finish up Joe's term and Harris will step down and Big Mike will run with either Jarrett, Rice or Holder.

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« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2024, 02:55:14 pm »
Big Mike

Financial consideration dictate Kamala. But personally, I don't care.
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« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2024, 03:16:48 pm »
Focus, people.  Don't let the fascist liberals control the narrative.

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2024, 03:19:38 pm »
John "Uncle Fester" Fetterman.
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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2024, 04:31:56 pm »
It's all in Big Mike's big capable hands.
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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2024, 05:14:00 pm »
Great Clinton Years? The Waco massacre? 'Assault Weapons' Ban? Janet (there is no evidence which exists) Reno? Whitewater? Web Hubbel? Condoms on the White House Christmas tree? Mena, coke, and Barry Seals? (Why is it that there is so much snow around the White House when a Dem is in office?)

If you're going to give anyone credit for a balanced Budget, that should go to Newt Gingrich, because revenue measures originate in the House, as required by the Constitution.

Waco?  A bunch of idiot bible thumpers who were brainwashed by a cult leader. They had ample opportunity to get out. poor innocent kids though. But the adults got what they deserved for being idiots. Yeah the David Koresh who would f**k the other guys wives and they allowed it and who diddled young girls. Good riddance.

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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2024, 05:23:17 pm »
Waco?  A bunch of idiot bible thumpers who were brainwashed by a cult leader. They had ample opportunity to get out. poor innocent kids though. But the adults got what they deserved for being idiots. Yeah the David Koresh who would f**k the other guys wives and they allowed it and who diddled young girls. Good riddance.

That represents who you are very well. Good job.

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« Reply #23 on: July 03, 2024, 05:38:16 pm »
That represents who you are very well. Good job.

God cleaning out the nuts. Koresh had 20 wives and told the men not to masturbate and be celibate but he had sex with their wives. That is well documented from survivors. Again, they had ample opportunity to leave.  The govt said most would never have been charged

Why conservatives stick up for this idiot bunch is beyond me

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« Reply #24 on: July 03, 2024, 05:47:11 pm »
I picked the stoner option in the poll.

If they genuinely want to win, they need to start a draft Laura Kelly movement.  She's able to work with the GOP controlled Kansas legislature, and doesn't have any of the insane COVID lock-down policy baggage most 'Rat governors have.
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« Reply #25 on: July 03, 2024, 05:51:55 pm »
Why conservatives stick up for this idiot bunch is beyond me

It's not a matter of sticking up for the cultists, it's a matter of opposing government over-reach, objecting to the Feds trampling on the rights enumerated in the First and Second Amendments (at least, arguably a few others as well).  One can have utter contempt for Koresh and his lunatic approach to the Christian Scriptures (as an Orthodox Christian, I do), and still regard the Waco siege and aftermath as an abominable exercise in tyranny and murder by our government, worse than any of the impositions George III and Lord North's parliament visited on the founding generation.
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« Reply #26 on: July 03, 2024, 06:02:29 pm »
That represents who you are very well. Good job.

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« Reply #27 on: July 03, 2024, 06:14:38 pm »
It will be somebody young, new and fresh who is  a Bill Clinton 2.0 moderate.. A Beshear or Lara Kelly from Kansas type. That person along with the new Vp has already been picked. Biden is in on it. They are holding out.



People will remember the great Clinton years, roaring economy, balanced budget, welfare reform, cracked down on crime (with help from Newt and the gang).
 The Orange Turd will not know what hit him.

The problem is getting them past the progressive/socialist wing of the party
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« Reply #28 on: July 03, 2024, 06:15:12 pm »
Everything you cite, has Gingrich's fingerprints on it, and all Slick Willie had to do was sign.

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« Reply #29 on: July 03, 2024, 06:19:35 pm »
Corbe, I have 3:1 odds it will be Big Mike.  She's not on the list.


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« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2024, 09:31:08 pm »
It's not a matter of sticking up for the cultists, it's a matter of opposing government over-reach, objecting to the Feds trampling on the rights enumerated in the First and Second Amendments (at least, arguably a few others as well).  One can have utter contempt for Koresh and his lunatic approach to the Christian Scriptures (as an Orthodox Christian, I do), and still regard the Waco siege and aftermath as an abominable exercise in tyranny and murder by our government, worse than any of the impositions George III and Lord North's parliament visited on the founding generation.

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« Reply #31 on: July 03, 2024, 09:32:08 pm »
It will be Newscum or Brashear.

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« Reply #32 on: July 03, 2024, 10:36:27 pm »
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« Reply #33 on: July 03, 2024, 10:56:38 pm »
I'll put my money on Newsom and Whitmer.

Originally I thought Big Mike would reluctantly accept, but now I think the party leadership will go for two relatively young governors.
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« Reply #34 on: July 03, 2024, 11:00:16 pm »
I'll put my money on Newsom and Whitmer.

Originally I thought Big Mike would reluctantly accept, but now I think the party leadership will go for two relatively young governors.

I don't think there is enough time to run someone that doesn't already have wide-spread name recognition along with a positive favorable approval rating.

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« Reply #35 on: July 03, 2024, 11:10:58 pm »
Just as with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama before him, the dems know Newsom will attract a huge majority of the female vote, so he’ll be the selectee. 
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« Reply #36 on: July 03, 2024, 11:18:30 pm »
Waco?  A bunch of idiot bible thumpers who were brainwashed by a cult leader. They had ample opportunity to get out. poor innocent kids though. But the adults got what they deserved for being idiots. Yeah the David Koresh who would f**k the other guys wives and they allowed it and who diddled young girls. Good riddance.
Because when you disagree with someone it's okay to burn them to death, right?

We can allow for people who believe their daughters should have their throats cut for shaming their family, the infidels should have their heads removed, in the name of their god, but let someone act like half of Hollywood, and they have to be assaulted like Iwo Jima and killed.

If the BATF wanted to inspect the books, what ever happened to just knocking on the door? They had done it before, without some grandstand play.

Since when does the BATF 'do' Social Services' work?

There are more glaring irregularities in what happened there (right down to allegations of sexual impropriety timed to be front page news the day of the raid) than there were with Bill Clinton talking about Monica, (pointing at Helen Thomas and saying "I did not have sex with that woman."). The Front page hit piece was an irrelevant to the attack on a church group, but the headlines get the suckers to think 'it serves them right'.

Agitptrop is nothing new. The Feds blew the raid, and covered their tracks, finally poking flue holes in a building full of men, women, and children, spraying CS in a carrier of Methylene Chloride (chief ingredient in carburetor cleaner; hazardous, and flammable) and shooting pyro tear gas rounds into the upwind end of the complex until it lit up. 

Funny how the steel entry door that would have shown who shot first went missing, too.
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« Reply #37 on: July 04, 2024, 01:09:21 am »
Will Cain raised a point while subbing for Jesse Watters. He said the Dems are looking to move Joe out and replace him because they can’t win with Joe - not because it is the best for the country.
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« Reply #38 on: July 04, 2024, 09:17:30 am »
Will Cain raised a point while subbing for Jesse Watters. He said the Dems are looking to move Joe out and replace him because they can’t win with Joe - not because it is the best for the country.

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« Reply #39 on: July 04, 2024, 10:16:51 am »
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« Reply #40 on: July 04, 2024, 05:31:58 pm »
Seems like things are beginning to tilt towards Kamala. FJB may even resign according to some rumblings.
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« Reply #41 on: July 04, 2024, 05:34:10 pm »
Seems like things are beginning to tilt towards Kamala. FJB may even resign according to some rumblings.

That'll be interesting.

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #42 on: July 26, 2024, 03:49:00 pm »
Since the Obama's endoresement today, I guess we can put to rest this question. 

Unless.......
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #43 on: July 26, 2024, 04:01:28 pm »
I will not be 100% convinced that VP Harris will be the nominee, until after the DNC is wrapped up in Chicago.
The media thinks so (or wants us to).
It's the same media that said Joe Biden was fine a few short weeks ago.

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #44 on: July 26, 2024, 04:06:50 pm »
I think ole Buttplug is the best choice.  He checks a few boxes that are important to the party. 
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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #45 on: July 26, 2024, 04:10:26 pm »
My bet is still on Big Mike.

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #46 on: July 26, 2024, 04:13:46 pm »
With the Obamas jumping on the Harris bus, I suppose the die is cast.  They have gone all in on one of the absolute worst people ever in politics.

I fully expect Trump to shred her into confetti.  If they think things were bad with Biden, give the Trump organization a little time and Cackling Kam the opportunity to earn the James Watt award for stupidity.

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #47 on: July 26, 2024, 04:59:37 pm »
I Kamala isn't polling favorably by convention time they'll nuke her too. They demand to win at any cost.

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #48 on: July 26, 2024, 05:27:05 pm »
I Kamala isn't polling favorably by convention time they'll nuke her too. They demand to win at any cost.
   

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Re: Who will step in and save the dems?
« Reply #49 on: July 26, 2024, 05:29:22 pm »
I Kamala isn't polling favorably by convention time they'll nuke her too. They demand to win at any cost.

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