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If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« on: April 20, 2024, 03:08:02 pm »
April 20, 2024
If they jail Trump, what’s next?
By Clark Wren

The insiders, the elites, the establishment, whatever you want to call them, are hoping our Soviet-styled Department of Justice (“show me the man, and I’ll show you the crime”) will keep rolling forward and steam-roll Donald Trump. Although the Trump base is solidly with him and has stopped listening to anything the legacy press tries to manipulate us to believe, the Department of Justice has the power to incarcerate Trump if that is the will of the court.

What then? The elephant in the room is precisely what the talking heads won’t say. We have a constitutional crisis right now. Refusal to acknowledge the elephant doesn’t make it go away. A constitutional crisis, though, is not necessarily a bad thing. It does, however, require people to think outside of the box, which makes most people uneasy. Nevertheless, when there is a great distance between what you are being told and what you are actually thinking, then change becomes inevitable and necessary. But it is not the change for which the insiders, the elites, the establishment, whatever you want to call them, are aiming.

The institutions, which are now firmly controlled by the elites, are not supposed to run this country. We are supposed to run this country. Again, the message we get bombarded with almost daily from the media has little effect on Trump’s base, but everyone is not in Trump’s base. There are many who are undecided, and an election can be determined by razor thin margins.

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2024, 03:39:07 pm »
If Trump is jailed, then he's... well, not exactly Nelson Mandela, but not exactly not Mandela, either.

He will be seen by many as a victim of an oppressive political movement that has enlisted the judicial system in its scheme to thwart the opposition, and silence dissent.

And given the true nature and import of Trump's "crimes", that would not be terribly far from the truth.
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2024, 03:41:18 pm »
If he's jailed, and which directly throws the election to Biden?

I am guessing there will likely be blood in the streets. The silent majority won't be silent anymore.
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2024, 04:27:59 pm »
If he's jailed and somehow wins, which is possible, then that will be the mother of all constitutional crises. Our system appears vulnerable when there's this 50/50 split of the population, it seems to work better when there's a clear majority. Maybe that failure is on us, the citizens. Of course, 1/2 of the population is insane as shit (leftists), and basically want Trump to be guilty of something, doesn't matter what.

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #4 on: April 20, 2024, 05:01:25 pm »
If he's jailed and somehow wins, which is possible, then that will be the mother of all constitutional crises. Our system appears vulnerable when there's this 50/50 split of the population, it seems to work better when there's a clear majority. Maybe that failure is on us, the citizens. Of course, 1/2 of the population is insane as shit (leftists), and basically want Trump to be guilty of something, doesn't matter what.

I am not a Trump fan by any means, but nothing that they are trying to pin on him is felonious, or deserving of jail time. 

If the loony left is successful of jailing him, or using that jailing to wrongly bias an election, I predict all hell will break loose. This will be become an unprecedented coup.
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2024, 05:14:33 pm »
The real question is if Trump is jailed, and the Nat'l Convention still makes or already has made him the nominee. What then?
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #7 on: April 20, 2024, 06:20:24 pm »
I am not a Trump fan by any means, but nothing that they are trying to pin on him is felonious, or deserving of jail time. 

If the loony left is successful of jailing him, or using that jailing to wrongly bias an election, I predict all hell will break loose. This will be become an unprecedented coup.

IMO We've already experienced a coup with Brandon being inserted as president.  Jailing Trump would indeed be an unprecedented coup; however I believe it is already planned for and anyone who rises up will be incarcerated.  Perhaps Brandon would either declare the Insurrection Act or the U.N. will step in.

I'm still waiting to see if Joe signs over power to the U.N. for global emergencies -- who knows what he's going to do this September; though I am confident he will sell us down the river.
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #8 on: April 20, 2024, 06:52:20 pm »
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Jailing Trump would indeed be an unprecedented coup; however I believe it is already planned for and anyone who rises up will be incarcerated.

That is what all the J6 *rioters* jailing was/is for...to scare the American people from ever marching on DC or to oppose what the current admin has or is doing...
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #9 on: April 20, 2024, 07:37:02 pm »
That is what all the J6 *rioters* jailing was/is for...to scare the American people from ever marching on DC or to oppose what the current admin has or is doing...

Exactly.  Trump was correct about one thing, they're not just coming after him, they are coming after us!
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #10 on: April 20, 2024, 08:25:52 pm »
If they jail Trump, what’s next?

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #11 on: April 20, 2024, 09:48:43 pm »
Weird postulates:
"If he's jailed and somehow wins, which is possible, then that will be the mother of all constitutional crises."

Horse manure.

Send Supreme Court Justice Thomas to the jail with a Bible.
Swear in Mr. Trump.
As soon as he IS sworn in, hand him "pardon papers" to sign -- pardoning HIMSELF.
Then the jailer opens the door, and Mr. Trump grabs a cab (or whatever else) to the White House.

Tell me now (and in all seriousness)... where the heck is the "Constitutional crisis" ???

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #12 on: April 20, 2024, 10:02:55 pm »
Weird postulates:
"If he's jailed and somehow wins, which is possible, then that will be the mother of all constitutional crises."

Horse manure.

Send Supreme Court Justice Thomas to the jail with a Bible.
Swear in Mr. Trump.
As soon as he IS sworn in, hand him "pardon papers" to sign -- pardoning HIMSELF.
Then the jailer opens the door, and Mr. Trump grabs a cab (or whatever else) to the White House.

Tell me now (and in all seriousness)... where the heck is the "Constitutional crisis" ???


...hmm....I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps he could pardon himself for a federal crime, but I don't think he could pardon himself for a state crime. ???  NY has him right where they want him.

Despite the breadth of the President’s authority under the Pardon Clause, the Constitution’s text provides for at least two limits on the power: first, clemency may only be granted for "Offenses against the United States,"5 meaning that state criminal offenses and federal or state civil claims are not covered.6 Second, the President’s clemency authority cannot be used "in Cases of impeachment."


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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #13 on: April 20, 2024, 10:15:18 pm »
" Perhaps he could pardon himself for a federal crime, but I don't think he could pardon himself for a state crime. ???"

Send in the Secret Service, with backup from the U.S. Army, to "secure" the Commander-in-Chief. Using only "appropriate force", of course.

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #14 on: April 20, 2024, 10:30:49 pm »
If Trump is defeated will his sons be killed?

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« Reply #15 on: April 21, 2024, 12:04:55 am »
   Melania and his kids will consider it a 'win-win' considering what they use to do to Presidents.

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« Reply #16 on: April 21, 2024, 12:09:40 am »
They'll come after you!

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #17 on: April 21, 2024, 01:00:18 am »
If Trump is defeated will his sons be killed?

????  Not quite sure I follow, but nothing would surprise me at this point.
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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #18 on: April 21, 2024, 01:01:15 am »
   Melania and his kids will consider it a 'win-win' considering what they use to do to Presidents.



RFK Jr's family just supported Brandon...maybe they see the writing on the wall.
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« Reply #19 on: April 21, 2024, 01:14:00 am »
   In 30 years we go from an 'I didn't inhale' Clinton to an X heroin addict in RFK Jr. 
   TV is the absolute gateway drug!
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« Reply #20 on: April 21, 2024, 01:19:26 am »
   In 30 years we go from an 'I didn't inhale' Clinton to an X heroin addict in RFK Jr. 
   TV is the absolute gateway drug!

...hmm no wonder he's anti-vax.  88888cool
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« Reply #21 on: April 21, 2024, 01:49:12 am »

...hmm....I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps he could pardon himself for a federal crime, but I don't think he could pardon himself for a state crime. ???  NY has him right where they want him.

Despite the breadth of the President’s authority under the Pardon Clause, the Constitution’s text provides for at least two limits on the power: first, clemency may only be granted for "Offenses against the United States,"5 meaning that state criminal offenses and federal or state civil claims are not covered.6 Second, the President’s clemency authority cannot be used "in Cases of impeachment."


https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S2-C1-3-1/ALDE_00013316/

Exactly. Also not sure about self pardons.

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Re: If they jail Trump, what’s next?
« Reply #22 on: April 21, 2024, 02:51:44 pm »
Weird wrote:
"Also not sure about self pardons"

The president's power of the pardon is absolute, and unchallengeable in any court under the Constitution. Quite literally, "it's in there".

Having said that, regardless, see my post 13 earlier in this thread.

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« Reply #23 on: April 21, 2024, 05:33:02 pm »
If they can get away with that,their next step will obviously be to "jail" the rest of us. If not in actual jails,in the sense that we will be monitored and controlled in every aspect of our lives,including speech.

But......,none of you rabid Anti-Trump rats need to worry about this. Indeed,you should celebrate it as a personal victory when  it happens.

All you anti-Trumpers should Celebrate your victory!

After all,you will be as responsible for it as the DNC.
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