Live Thread: Trump's hush money trial begins in NYC

[Right_in_Virginia]

People wonder why this country is in the sad shape that it's in...because the current and past presidents represent the moral decay in this country.  It is NOT ok!

Tear up your voter registration card and move into a convent.  You'll be happier than you've ever been. 

[mystery-ak]

3 minutes ago
Stormy Daniels claims lawyer filed defamation suit against Trump over her objections
By Ben Kochman

Stormy Daniels testified that her attorney filed a defamation suit on her behalf against Trump in 2018 over her objections.

"It seemed like a bad choice, not worth it," she told jurors.

Daniels lost the suit, and an appeals court has ordered her to pay $122,000 in Trump's legal bills.

[mystery-ak]

a few seconds ago
'HORSEFACE': Daniels reads Trump's mean tweet directed at her to jury

Stormy Daniels read one of Donald Trump's Truth Social posts about her to the jury, where Trump claimed he did "NOTHING wrong in the 'Horseface' case."

The truth, from March 15, 2023, reads:

"I did NOTHING wrong in the 'Horseface' case. I see she showed up in New York today trying to drum up some publicity for herself. I haven't seen or spoken to her since I took a picture with her on a golf course, in full golf gear including a hat, close to 18 years ago. She knows nothing about me other than her conman lawyer, [Michael] Avanatti, and convicted liar and felon, jailbird Michael Cohen, may have schemed up. Never had an affair with her, just another false acquisition by a SleazeBag. Witch Hunt!"

[mystery-ak]

a few seconds ago
Daniels apologizes to court reporter for talking too fast

During a quick sidebar before cross-examination, Stormy Daniels apologized to the court reporter for talking to fast.

"Is that better? I talked slower for you," Daniels told the court reporter.

She then added, "I'm sorry."

[Bigun]

Stormy's testimony is an embarrassment for the entire Trump family!

So our choices for president is a past president that slept with a porn star or a president running for re-election that sniffs children and showers with his daughter.  Neither is acceptable!!!

People wonder why this country is in the sad shape that it's in...because the current and past presidents represent the moral decay in this country.  It is NOT ok!

Do you have ANY proof that Trump ever slept with Stormy Daniels (or whatever her real name is) If so ,  I would love to see it.  Do you remember Roy Moore?

[catfish1957]

This will be the new mantra.  Fox is run by Paul Ryan.

But still dominated by pro-Trump on air talent.  Get back with me when the likes of Hannity, Gutfeld, Ingraham, and Watters concur or change direction

[mystery-ak]

MOL

13:56
Move to mistrial serves as a reminder of the wild Stormy Daniels morning testimony

From Rob Crilly, Senior Political Reporter inside court:

The mistrial move was a reminder of just how wild Stormy Daniels' testimony was this morning.

Judge, court reporter and prosecutor all had to ask her to slow down at times. And Judge Juan Merchan told her several times to answer only the questions she was asked as she embarked on asides and diversions.

Most notably, she seemed to have no recollection of how she ended up half undressed on the bed, something very different to the account of a consensual affair she was trying to sell in 2016.

So it was no surprise that the defense moved for a mistrial, on the grounds that her testimony would poison the jury againt their client. This is what defenses do. And it was no real surprise either that Judge Juan Merchan said there insufficient grounds for a mistrial.

13:57
From inside the court: Is Trump asleep?

From Rob Crilly, Senior Political Reporter inside court:

Trump is leaning back in his seat. Eyes closed. So is he asleep?

He scratches his neck. Eyes still closed.

He looks comfortable and it is warm in the courtroom.

He opens his eyes a crack. And then closes them again.

He leans his head to the left, and then back to the right, all without opening his eyes.

[mystery-ak]

2 minutes ago
Prosecutors end questioning of Stormy Daniels, cross-examination begins
By Ben Kochman

Prosecutors are finished questioning Stormy Daniels.

Trump lawyer Susan Necheles is now cross-examining her.

[LMAO]

Tear up your voter registration card and move into a convent.  You'll be happier than you've ever been.

She’s not required to do any such thing

[LMAO]

Do you have ANY proof that Trump ever slept with Stormy Daniels (or whatever her real name is) If so ,  I would love to see it.  Do you remember Roy Moore?

We have no solid evidence that he slept with Stormy. But I have a hunch that he did. It may not be exactly as she described. But Even if he did, that is not a crime.

Do you have any proof that Biden showered with his daughter?

[mystery-ak]

a few seconds ago
Daniels, Trump attorney trading jabs on cross-examination

Stormy Daniels seems agitated by questions from Donald Trump’s attorney Susan Necheles early on in cross-examination.

Her tone has changed slightly as she answers questions in a matter-of-fact way, sometimes punchy at a louder volume, when speaking with Necheles.

Meanwhile, Trump appears to be reclined back in his seat sitting between Emil Bove and Todd Blanche.

3 minutes ago
Daniels admits she hates Donald Trump: testimony

Stormy Daniels was asked by Donald Trump's attorney Susan Necheles if she hated Trump.

"Am I correct that you hate President Trump?" Necheles asked.

Daniels responded with a shrap "yes."

She then added: “I want him to be held accountable."

[Bigun]

We have no solid evidence that he slept with Stormy. But I have a hunch that he did. It may not be exactly as she described. But Even if he did, that is not a crime.

Do you have any proof that Biden showered with his daughter?

Your hunches aren't worth anything in a courtroom. At least shouldn't be.

[mystery-ak]

“I want him to be held accountable."

Accountable for what?...what crime did he commit?

[Bigun]

I'm sick to DEATH of this "he said/she said crap being used in attempts to destroy people in the courts! Couldn't care less who the players are!

[LMAO]

Your hunches aren't worth anything in a courtroom. At least shouldn't be.

That’s right. They are not. Hunches  have no place in a court case

But they can come in handy when judging somebody’s character

[LMAO]

Accountable for what?...what crime did he commit?

I’m still trying to figure that out. So far, We learned the history of  Daniels career and what positions she likes

[DB]

Do you have ANY proof that Trump ever slept with Stormy Daniels (or whatever her real name is) If so ,  I would love to see it.  Do you remember Roy Moore?

Occam's Razor.

Billionaires don't pay out money to people who make false claims, they destroy them in court instead.

There's been no testimony so far that indicates Stormy was seeking money from Trump. It was Trump's fixers that approached her to buy her story to bury it. Exactly how Pecker testified he operates.

The only thing she did was try to get out of her NDA with him because when he ran for President because it was a potential gold mine worth far more than he paid "for her story".

If it hasn't been published, how does she know they sleep in separate bedrooms? And if they don't, that would be easy to show.

All the evidence so far shows that Trump approached her during all their encounters. She wasn't seeking him out.

And don't forget, she's not the only one.

[mystery-ak]

a few seconds ago
Stormy Daniels explains why she called Trump an 'orange turd' in tweet to jurors

Stormy Daniels said she called Donald Trump an "orange turd" — simply "because he made fun of her first."

The juror is being shown a tweet by Daniels from November 9, 2022.

🇺🇸 The Briefing Room 🇺🇸 🇮🇱

Stormy Daniels
@StormyDaniels
·
Nov 9, 2022
I don't owe him shit and I'll never give that orange turd a dime 😂

[Bigun]

Occam's Razor.

Billionaires don't pay out money to people who make false claims, they destroy them in court instead.

There's been no testimony so far that indicates Stormy was seeking money from Trump. It was Trump's fixers that approached her to buy her story to bury it. Exactly how Pecker testified he operates.

The only thing she did was try to get out of her NDA with him because when he ran for President because it was a potential gold mine worth far more than he paid "for her story".

If it hasn't been published, how does she know they sleep in separate bedrooms? And if they don't, that would be easy to show.

All the evidence so far shows that Trump approached her during all their encounters. She wasn't seeking him out.

And don't forget, she's not the only one.

And exactly NONE of that is proof of ANYTHING!

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/SweetPeaBell326/status/1787916949432795260

[Bigun]

https://twitter.com/SweetPeaBell326/status/1787916949432795260

Excellent question! These NYC judges are a joke!

[mystery-ak]

MOH

14:19
Stormy Daniels defensive in cross-examination

From Rob Crilly, Senior Political Reporter inside court:

The cross examination is riveting stuff.

Susan Necheles opened up by asking Stormy Daniels whether she had rehearsed for this moment with prosecution lawyers.

Daniels did not like that line of questioning and bristled.

She sat up straight, jutting her jaw to one side in defiant fashion, as she tried to hit the questions straight back at the questioner.

That set the tone for an increasingly bad tempered encounter as the defense tries to make out that she is a money-grabbing chancer.

14:16
Stormy Daniels is being questioned about having to pay Donald Trump legal fees

There has been a back and forth exchange between defense lawyer Susan Necheles and Stormy Daniels over Daniels being ordered to pay Donald Trump legal fees.

Daniels is being shown a series of tweets she made about Trump.

Necheles points out that Daniels also made fun of Trump's looks.

'He made fun of me first,' Daniels says.

On the screen is a tweet from Daniels where she wrote 'I don't owe him s**t and I'll never give that orange turd a dime'

The fees owed are in connection to Daniels' failed defamation lawsuit against Trump.

When Necheles questions whether Trump won the case, Daniels counters 'he prevailed, I was not found to have lost.'

[DB]

I'm sick to DEATH of this "he said/she said crap being used in attempts to destroy people in the courts! Couldn't care less who the players are!

That's a two way street. Didn't Trump try to destroy her over her trying to get out of the NDA "for her story"? Trump has a long trail of wreckage of people he's destroyed via lies. If she was telling the truth and Trump was calling her a liar, who holds the higher moral ground?

Now, I'm not suggesting that this farce of a trial involves any actual crime on Trump's part. It is setting a terrible legal precedence.

[Bigun]

When Necheles questions whether Trump won the case, Daniels counters 'he prevailed, I was not found to have lost.'

LOL! You can't make this stuff up!

[DB]

Excellent question! These NYC judges are a joke!

Isn't that like saying "some people say Cruz's father killed Kennedy"? He's saying it but not saying it...

That's what the judge just did.

It's wrong period.

[mystery-ak]

https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1787873733707002286

[Bigun]

That's a two way street. Didn't Trump try to destroy her over her trying to get out of the NDA "for her story"? Trump has a long trail of wreckage of people he's destroyed via lies. If she was telling the truth and Trump was calling her a liar, who holds the higher moral ground?

Now, I'm not suggesting that this farce of a trial involves any actual crime on Trump's part. It is setting a terrible legal precedence.

On that point I fully agree! Everyone involved with the prosecution of this should be disbarred with prejudice!

[DB]

LOL! You can't make this stuff up!

To my knowledge that case was only about the NDA being valid or not, not the contents of it or if she was telling the truth or not. It was simply confirmed to be a binding NDA.

[catfish1957]

What started out as a Kangaroo Court has turned into a farce of a 3-ring circus. 

The judical entities in NY have set back jurisprudence a 1000 years. 

[mystery-ak]

Greta Van Susteren
@greta
·
1h
The judge thinks he can “fix” the outrageous prejudicial testimony elicited by the prosecutor from Story Daniels w/limiting instruction to the jury..ah..Juries can not UNHEAR what they just heard just because judge tells them to

[Bigun]

Isn't that like saying "some people say Cruz's father killed Kennedy"? He's saying it but not saying it...

That's what the judge just did.

It's wrong period.

Which is what I've been shouting here for a LONG time!

[mystery-ak]

MOL
14:19
Stormy Daniels is up for a fight

From Rob Crilly, Senior Political Reporter inside court:

The cross examination is riveting stuff.

Susan Necheles opened up by asking Stormy Daniels whether she had rehearsed for this moment with prosecution lawyers.

Daniels did not like that line of questioning and bristled.

She sat up straight, jutting her jaw to one side in defiant fashion, as she tried to hit the questions straight back at the questioner.

That set the tone for an increasingly bad tempered encounter as the defense tries to make out that she is a money-grabbing chancer.

[banddag]

It does  not take a body language expert to know Melania and Trump have not touched each other in years. White house staff said they slept in separate beds.

It is not even a secret anymore that Melania has a alleged relationship with Hank Siemers, head of security at Tiffany's for years now. He moved into an apt in the Trump Tower  Donald knows about him and does not care. His marriage to Melania is one of convenience.


One day I expect many more women will come out of the woodwork that had sexual relations with Trump..or maybe not. Would you want to let it be known you had sex with Trump and become another Lewinski joke?

[DB]

Which is what I've been shouting here for a LONG time!

I can't bring myself to support anyone who does that no matter the cause. The ends do not justify the means.

[Bigun]

I can't bring myself to support anyone who does that no matter the cause. The ends do not justify the means.

If they can do it to Trump they can do it to ANYONE!

[catfish1957]

It does  not take a body language expert to know Melania and Trump have not touched each other in years. White house staff said they slept in separate beds.

It is not even a secret anymore that Melania has a relationship with Hank Siemers, head of security at Tiffany's for years now. He moved into an apt in the Trump Tower 3-4 year ago. Donald knows about him and does not care. His marriage to Melania is one of convenience.


One day I expect many more women will come out of the woodwork that had sexual relations with Trump..or maybe not. Would you want to let it be known you had sex with Trump and become another Lewinski joke?

And Biden likely showered and slept with his daughter, but your prefer to bring this up? (Which none of this I had heard) I was about 90% sure you were a troll.  Now I am at a 100.

[catfish1957]

If they can do it to Trump they can do it to ANYONE!

Can?

More like will, and they will systematically and methodically do it.

[Bigun]

It does  not take a body language expert to know Melania and Trump have not touched each other in years. White house staff said they slept in separate beds.

It is not even a secret anymore that Melania has a relationship with Hank Siemers, head of security at Tiffany's for years now. He moved into an apt in the Trump Tower 3-4 year ago. Donald knows about him and does not care. His marriage to Melania is one of convenience.


One day I expect many more women will come out of the woodwork that had sexual relations with Trump..or maybe not. Would you want to let it be known you had sex with Trump and become another Lewinski joke?

It's none of your business troll!

[DB]

If they can do it to Trump they can do it to ANYONE!

And they will if there isn't some serious consequences for them doing it. But who is going to hold them accountable?

We've reached the point in this country that the ends justify the means. Once a majority believe that, there's no going back.

I'll add, Trump clearly believes the ends justify the means. He's shown that repeatedly.

So now both parties are going down that path. It's a path to ruin.

[Bigun]

Can?

More like will, and they will systematically and methodically do it.

That's surely the history! Trump is far from the first and, as I said before, it's wrong period!

[mystery-ak]

a minute ago
Testy Trump lawyer grills Stormy Daniels during heated cross-examination
By Ben Kochman

Trump's lawyer Susan Necheles has taken a combative approach to questioning Stormy Daniels during the afternoon's cross-examination.

“You have been making money by claiming you had sex with Donald Trump for more than a decade, right?" Necheles said at one point.

"I have been making money by telling my story,” Daniels shot back.

[mystery-ak]

MOL

14:49
Stormy Daniels grilled over making money off her story about Donald Trump

Trump defense attorney Susan Necheles is pressing Stormy Daniels over making money off telling her story about Donald Trump.

Necheles asks while refusing to pay Trump, Daniels has been making money off the claim she had sex with Trump?

Daniels responds if she's talking about the book 'yes.'

Necheles asks if she's been doing for more than a decade?

Daniels says she has not been paid for interviews in the United States.

When asked if she has been making money by claiming to have had sex with Trump, Daniels counters she has been making money 'by telling my story.'

Necheles asks if Daniels made a lot of money off the story she had sex with Trump.

‘It has also cost me a lot of money,’ Daniels says.

[corbe]

   Trump appointed FBI Director Wray will get right on it.

[banddag]

(Which none of this I had heard)

Why every person needs to do research from all sides, left, middle and right.  Never believe anything from the far left or far right without doing your own research .  Both sides  mislead and misinform and leave out pertinent information.

If a person only receives their info from the far left or far right they eventually become misinformed.

[mystery-ak]

15:01
Court is taking a short break

Stormy Daniels cross-examination is paused for short break.

[libertybele]

Do you have ANY proof that Trump ever slept with Stormy Daniels (or whatever her real name is) If so ,  I would love to see it.  Do you remember Roy Moore?

Yes, I remember Roy Moore.

I thought it had been proven awhile ago, that Trump did sleep with her???

Obviously not.

[Cyber Liberty]

Why every person needs to do research from all sides, left, middle and right.  Never believe anything from the far left or far right without doing your own research .  Both sides  mislead and misinform and leave out pertinent information.

If a person only receives their info from the far left or far right they eventually become misinformed.

Sounds like you researched that claim. Do you care to share that here?

[catfish1957]

Why every person needs to do research from all sides, left, middle and right.  Never believe anything from the far left or far right without doing your own research .  Both sides  mislead and misinform and leave out pertinent information.

If a person only receives their info from the far left or far right they eventually become misinformed.

I watch and read plenty of varying POV's, and still haven't seen that.  What's your source?  du?

[mystery-ak]

a few seconds ago
'Very well': Trump responds when asked how trial day is going
By Kyle Schnitzer

When asked by a pool reporter how the trial is going Tuesday, Donald Trump said "very well."

"Mr. Trump, how's it going in there?" a reporter shouted in the hallway.

The former president held his right hand to his mouth, saying, "Very well."

[Cyber Liberty]

Yes, I remember Roy Moore.

I thought it had been proven awhile ago, that Trump did sleep with her???

Obviously not.

A very dear friend of mine left TBR because she was positive Moore was guilty, despite the lack of any evidence. She fought like hell with other members for months. Makes me sad that she would not budge and left us.