BREAKING....Thread 9...Israel At War...OPERATION SWORDS OF IRON

[Hoodat]

Is it wise to put an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea?  Isn't that just a large lake of bathtub?  Not much room to navigate and maneuver.

Only if you want to keep your strike force as far away from Iran as possible and show the world what a demented old weak-ass POS you are.

[Timber Rattler]

Not sure how the Iranians plan to fire all that ordnance at Israel without torquing off all the countries in between.  Nor where the U.S. Navy could conceivably intervene, considering the geopgraphy.

[PeteS in CA]

Is it wise to put an aircraft carrier in the Red Sea?  Isn't that just a large lake of bathtub?  Not much room to navigate and maneuver.

It looks to me like the Red Sea is ~200 miles wide at its widest ... near Sanaa Yemen (can you say Houthiville?). For a carrier that's not a great deal of maneuvering room and determining its exact location would be too easy.

IMO, it's a bad idea, but endangering US military personnel is probably not a big deal to LIEden.

[Hoodat]

Nor where the U.S. Navy could conceivably intervene, considering the geopgraphy.

The US was in the perfect place to intervene up until the point that Obama totally destroyed our relationship with Iraq.

[240B]

IT WAS THE DEMOCRAT! JIMMAH CATATH WHO CREATED THIS WHOLE MESS.
IT WAS JIMMAH CAATTAH WHO REBUILT THE ISLAMIC THEORACRAY.

Jimmy Carter cursed so many millions to their death. I only hope that he meets them in the after life.

[mystery-ak]

Mossad: Hamas Rejects Hostage Deal with Israel

Israel’s spy agency, the Mossad, said Sunday that Hamas had rejected Israel’s offer for a deal to release some of the 133 remaining hostages being held in Gaza.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/13/mossad-hamas-rejects-hostage-deal-with-israel/

[PeteS in CA]

Mossad: Hamas Rejects Hostage Deal with Israel

Israel’s spy agency, the Mossad, said Sunday that Hamas had rejected Israel’s offer for a deal to release some of the 133 remaining hostages being held in Gaza.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/13/mossad-hamas-rejects-hostage-deal-with-israel/

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Israel makes a cease-fire offer that includes releasing hostages.
Hamas rejects the offer.

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Israel makes a cease-fire offer that includes releasing hostages.
Hamas rejects the offer.

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Israel makes a cease-fire offer that includes releasing hostages.
Hamas rejects the offer.

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Israel makes a cease-fire offer that includes releasing hostages.
Hamas rejects the offer.

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Israel makes a cease-fire offer that includes releasing hostages.
Hamas rejects the offer.

LIEden arm-twists Israel into accepting a cease fire.
Rinse and Repeat

[Elderberry]

i24NEWS English
@i24NEWS_EN

🔴 Hamas offers to release only 20 hostages, demands more Palestinian prisoners in new ceasefire proposal - report

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1779931105048907934

[Cyber Liberty]

i24NEWS English
@i24NEWS_EN

🔴 Hamas offers to release only 20 hostages, demands more Palestinian prisoners in new ceasefire proposal - report

https://twitter.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1779931105048907934

I think the possibility of a deal expired Saturday night.

[DB]

I think the possibility of a deal expired Saturday night.

Hamas thought Iran was going to pave their way and now that that path fizzled badly they have to come up with another plan to survive.

[mystery-ak]

Israeli Commandos Operating Inside Lebanon to Remove Hezbollah

Israel Defense Forces (IDF) commandos are already operating inside southern Lebanon to attack and remove Hezbollah positions near the border, Breitbart News can report.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/15/israeli-commandos-operating-inside-lebanon-to-remove-hezbollah/

[mystery-ak]

EXCLUSIVE PHOTOS: Empty Israeli Towns Near Border with Lebanon; 60,000 Remain Refugees



Tens of thousands of Israelis remain refugees in their own country after

attacks by Hezbollah, the Iran-backed terrorist army, forced the

evacuation of communities near the northern border in October.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/15/exclusive-photos-empty-israeli-towns-near-border-with-lebanon-60000-remain-refugees/

[mystery-ak]

 Nearly 50 attendees of Israel’s Nova festival died by suicide since Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack, survivor says
By Social Links for Yaron Steinbuch
Published April 16, 2024
Updated April 16, 2024, 12:39 p.m. ET

Nearly 50 traumatized revelers who survived the Hamas attack on the Nova music festival in Israel have died by suicide in the last six months because they were unable to cope with the tragedy, a survivor revealed Tuesday.

“Few people know, but there have been almost 50 suicides among the Nova survivors. This number, which was true two months ago, may have increased since,” Nova festival survivor Guy Ben Shimon told a parliamentary hearing for a State Audit Commission on the treatment of the Oct. 7 survivors.

He said many of his friends who escaped the massacre could not recover from what they had witnessed, I24NEWS reported.

“There are many survivors who had to be forcibly hospitalized due to their psychological state. My friends are not getting out of bed, neither am I,” he said in Hebrew.

“I am practically unable to do anything. I had to get a dog to help me survive in my daily life. The goal for all of us is to return to work and function normally, but we cannot do it without adequate help,” Ben Shimon added.

more
https://nypost.com/2024/04/16/world-news/nearly-50-attendees-of-israels-nova-festival-died-by-suicide-since-oct-7-hamas-terrorist-attack-survivor-says/

[Hoodat]

https://twitter.com/OALD24/status/1780249101667299664

[PeteS in CA]

Does Israel have "Ginsu" Hellfire-style missiles?

[GtHawk]

Does Israel have "Ginsu" Hellfire-style missiles?

Nah, they have the "Mohel" missile and it circumcises the terrorists....from the neck up.

[mountaineer]

Massive Israeli airstrike against Rafah in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. 
That's Rafah, Joe Biden - not Haifa.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1782086084132040918

[Cyber Liberty]

Rafah has begun?

[Right_in_Virginia]

Rafah has begun?

The money for Israel passed in the House.

[libertybele]

Mossad: Hamas Rejects Hostage Deal with Israel

Israel’s spy agency, the Mossad, said Sunday that Hamas had rejected Israel’s offer for a deal to release some of the 133 remaining hostages being held in Gaza.

https://www.breitbart.com/middle-east/2024/04/13/mossad-hamas-rejects-hostage-deal-with-israel/

 

[libertybele]

Nearly 50 attendees of Israel’s Nova festival died by suicide since Oct. 7 Hamas terrorist attack, survivor says
By Social Links for Yaron Steinbuch
Published April 16, 2024
Updated April 16, 2024, 12:39 p.m. ET

Nearly 50 traumatized revelers who survived the Hamas attack on the Nova music festival in Israel have died by suicide in the last six months because they were unable to cope with the tragedy, a survivor revealed Tuesday.

“Few people know, but there have been almost 50 suicides among the Nova survivors. This number, which was true two months ago, may have increased since,” Nova festival survivor Guy Ben Shimon told a parliamentary hearing for a State Audit Commission on the treatment of the Oct. 7 survivors.

He said many of his friends who escaped the massacre could not recover from what they had witnessed, I24NEWS reported.

“There are many survivors who had to be forcibly hospitalized due to their psychological state. My friends are not getting out of bed, neither am I,” he said in Hebrew.

“I am practically unable to do anything. I had to get a dog to help me survive in my daily life. The goal for all of us is to return to work and function normally, but we cannot do it without adequate help,” Ben Shimon added.

more
https://nypost.com/2024/04/16/world-news/nearly-50-attendees-of-israels-nova-festival-died-by-suicide-since-oct-7-hamas-terrorist-attack-survivor-says/

Such an absolute tragedy.   

[Right_in_Virginia]

Israeli strikes on Rafah kill 22, mostly children, as US advances aid package
The House of Representatives approved a $26 billion aid package on Saturday.
ABC News, Apr 21, 2024

RAFAH, Gaza Strip -- Israeli strikes on the southern Gaza city of Rafah overnight killed 22 people, including 18 children, health officials said Sunday, as the United States was on track to approve billions of dollars of additional military aid to Israel, its close ally.

Israel has carried out near-daily air raids on Rafah, where more than half of Gaza's population of 2.3 million has sought refuge from fighting elsewhere. It has also vowed to expand its ground offensive against the Hamas militant group to the city on the border with Egypt despite international calls for restraint, including from the U.S.

“In the coming days, we will increase the political and military pressure on Hamas because this is the only way to bring back our hostages and achieve victory. We will land more and painful blows on Hamas – soon," Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said in a statement. He didn't give details.

The first Israeli strike in Rafah killed a man, his wife and their 3-year-old child, according to the nearby Kuwaiti Hospital, which received the bodies. The woman was pregnant and the doctors saved the baby, the hospital said. The second strike killed 17 children and two women from an extended family.

“These children were sleeping. What did they do? What was their fault?” asked one relative, Umm Kareem. Another relative, Umm Mohammad, said the oldest killed, an 80-year-old aunt, was taken out “in pieces.” Small children were zipped into body bags.

Mohammed al-Beheiri said his daughter, Rasha, and her six children, the youngest 18 months old, were among those killed. A woman and three children were still under the rubble.

The Israel-Hamas war has killed over 34,000 Palestinians, according to local health officials, at least two-thirds of them children and women. It has devastated Gaza's two largest cities and left a swath of destruction. Around 80% of the territory's population have fled to other parts of the besieged coastal enclave.

https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/israeli-strikes-southern-gaza-city-rafah-kill-13-109471596

[DB]

Such an absolute tragedy.   

Yes, very disturbing. I have no sympathy for the "Palestinians". They earned what they're getting in return.

[Cyber Liberty]

And I believe ABC.....

"Mostly children..." is like "Women and children hardest hit."

[Wingnut]

And I believe ABC.....

"Mostly children..." is like "Women and children hardest hit."

Story was filed by ByMOHAMMAD JAHJOUH and SAMY MAGDY Associated Press

Check your disbelief at the door when you have two HAmas supporters.
filing stories.

[Right_in_Virginia]

And I believe ABC....."Mostly children..." is like "Women and children hardest hit."

You may be right @Cyber Liberty  But, Israel hasn't denied the reports and this is pretty compelling video:

Massive Israeli airstrike against Rafah in the southern part of the Gaza Strip. 
That's Rafah, Joe Biden - not Haifa.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1782086084132040918

I posted the ABC report ( there are others from other sources, too) just as a point of reference.  This is part of the reason there is a slow motion global seismic shift from pro to anti Israeli support ---- if this shift matters to anyone, at all.

[mountaineer]

there is a slow motion global seismic shift from pro to anti Israeli support ---- if this shift matters to anyone, at all.

Let's see, who is anti-Israel. Communists, Antifa, Islamic terrorists, the Democrat party, Q Anon ...

No, it doesn't matter to me.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Let's see, who is anti-Israel. Communists, Antifa, Islamic terrorists, the Democrat party, Q Anon ...

No, it doesn't matter to me.

 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Let's see, who is anti-Israel. Communists, Antifa, Islamic terrorists, the Democrat party, Q Anon ...

No, it doesn't matter to me.

Look beyond your comfort zone .....

[Hoodat]

And I believe ABC.....

"Mostly children..." is like "Women and children hardest hit."

According to Hamas militants pretending to be health officials.

[AllThatJazzZ]

Look beyond your comfort zone .....

@Right_in_Virginia

Maybe you've said it before and I missed it, but I'm wondering why you think that, after so many failed attempts at Middle East peace, there's actually a workable solution?

[GtHawk]

@Right_in_Virginia

Maybe you've said it before and I missed it, but I'm wondering why you think that, after so many failed attempts at Middle East peace, there's actually a workable solution?

There will never be peace, it's not even possible until the moslems leave the Medieval ages and come into modern times...and not even then because they will never evolve past the religious war mentality and they are at war with every religion, including the different flavors of moslem. So I say kill them all(moslems) and let GOD sort it out.

[DefiantMassRINO]

Why are there buildings still standing in Rafah?

Hamas terrorists embed themselves with civilians.  To kill Hamas terrorists you have to risk collateral civilian casualties.

[Timber Rattler]

Look beyond your comfort zone .....

And what would that be?

[Hoodat]

@Right_in_Virginia

Maybe you've said it before and I missed it, but I'm wondering why you think that, after so many failed attempts at Middle East peace, there's actually a workable solution?

A twofer, @AllThatJazzZ :

[Hoodat]

This is part of the reason there is a slow motion global seismic shift from pro to anti Israeli support ---- if this shift matters to anyone, at all.

The only thing that matters is you posting a completely fictitious account of world events.  Slow motion global seismic shift from pro to anti Israel support?  This is such BS.  And completely indicative of the pitfalls one encounters when they make things up as they go.

btw, still waiting for that UN Resolution that condemns Hamas.

Also, don't you think it is highly hypocritical of you to suggest that Israel gained global support as the victims of an attack when you ridicule the same for the Holocaust?

[Wingnut]

Look beyond your comfort zone .....

Your comfort zone is Jew hate. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

The only thing that matters is you posting a completely fictitious account of world events.

Oy vavoy    

You must peek outside this bubble from time to time.  Read the European news outlets, Middle Eastern reports, news from Asia, India, Africa and Israel itself.

Educate yourself, at least know what is actually being said and where public opinion is moving.

[Right_in_Virginia]

@Right_in_Virginia

Maybe you've said it before and I missed it, but I'm wondering why you think that, after so many failed attempts at Middle East peace, there's actually a workable solution?

Because there really haven't been honest attempts at peace.  The one time Israel had a patriot leader with courage to move toward peace and stability, he was assassinated.  And, yes I'm talking about two states @AllThatJazzZ

[Timber Rattler]

Oy vavoy    

You must peek outside this bubble from time to time.  Read the European news outlets, Middle Eastern reports, news from Asia, India, Africa and Israel itself.

Educate yourself, at least know what is actually being said and where public opinion is moving.

So please describe this 'bubble' or 'comfort zone' you keep alluding to.

Because there really haven't been honest attempts at peace.

So how do you make peace with a dishonest, bad faith terrorist government, that is demanding your annihilation as its ultimate goal?

[Hoodat]

Because there really haven't been honest attempts at peace.  The one time Israel had a patriot leader with courage to move toward peace and stability, he was assassinated.

Yitzhak Rabin - Father of the Olso War.

[Right_in_Virginia]

So how do you make peace with a dishonest, bad faith terrorist government, that is demanding your annihilation as its ultimate goal?

Are you not aware how stale this    mantra has become?  Few, if any, governments buy it anymore. 

Two states ---- negotiated by tribes in the neighborhood, only --- and passed by the UN.  Let's bring the Palestinian existence out from under Israel and both under the umbrella of international law.  Let's not be afraid to see where this goes.   

[Timber Rattler]

Are you not aware how stale this    mantra has become?  Few, if any, governments buy it anymore. 

Two states ---- negotiated by tribes in the neighborhood, only --- and passed by the UN.  Let's bring the Palestinian existence out from under Israel and both under the umbrella of international law.  Let's not be afraid to see where this goes.   

It goes straight to where it is now...war.

Are you seriously that naive or just dumb?

[Right_in_Virginia]

It goes straight to where it is now...war.

Are you seriously that naive or just dumb?

You've got to move beyond your knee jerks.

[Hoodat]

Because there really haven't been honest attempts at peace.

So how do you make peace with a dishonest, bad faith terrorist government, that is demanding your annihilation as its ultimate goal?

Word.

[Hoodat]

Two states ---- negotiated by tribes in the neighborhood, only --- and passed by the UN.  Let's bring the Palestinian existence out from under Israel and both under the umbrella of international law.  Let's not be afraid to see where this goes.   

You mean like back when Egypt occupied Gaza and the West Bank was part of Jordan?

[Right_in_Virginia]

You mean like back when Egypt occupied Gaza and the West Bank was part of Jordan?

No.  I mean two states, one Israeli, one Palestinian.

Get past your fear.

[Hoodat]

No.  I mean two states, one Israeli, one Palestinian.

Get past your fear.

Already tried.  1948.  How did that turn out?

[AllThatJazzZ]

Already tried.  1948.  How did that turn out?

Of course it didn't, but for some strange reason, there are those who refuse to believe that the unnatural hatred for (1) Israel and (2) the Jews can be fixed. How we can stay stuck in that mindset for decades is scary. And, America, remember. If they were to annihilate the Jews, guess who they're coming after next.

[Bigun]

Once again, I repeat. There is no such thing as a Palestinian.