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As some of y'all may remember, I posted a thread 2 or 3 years ago to express my astonishment at some of the things my stepdaughter was espousing. As I was to learn, there are some QAnoners here who defended her stances.

I had a short conversation with her today and got the sense that she isn't all in for Israel. If so, this would break my heart. I'm almost at the point where I just don't want to know since it would likely cause a division between us, so I only marginally went "there" with her.

Can anyone explain the position of QAnon regarding this matter? Thanks.


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My cousin is a Q-person (not sure what they like to be called). Everything she's posted on Facebook is virulently anti-Jew, anti-Israel, starting with calling Israel a haven for paedophiles - when she's not telling us the world is flat, Michael Jackson is alive, Angela Lansbury was born a male, and all cancers are caused by parasites, that is.

 And if you can make sense of this blather, more power to you:
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Some say …….Isis Amon Ra Elohim………..Is - RA - EL
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They do see a pedophile around every corner, don't they?  :thud: Thanks for sharing that with me. I'll give it a closer look later on.

One thing that I'd like to know but don't want to get into with her is, if the earth is flat, how does the sun get back over to the east to rise for a new day? Also, where is the beginning and the end of a flat earth? (What is the western-most location and the eastern-most location?)


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The entire British royal family are paedophiles who drink the blood of children, you know.   :whistle:
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The entire British royal family are paedophiles who drink the blood of children, you know.   :whistle:

@mountaineer

Has your cousin said anything about the belief that Trump is actually still president? Huh?


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Has your cousin said anything about the belief that Trump is actually still president? Huh?
Yes. Trump and the military are calling the shots, thankfully. The military tribunals holding Biden, et al., accountable will be happening any day now. Oh yes, and John F. Kennedy, Jr., who still is alive, is Trump's second-in-command.

It should go without saying that I pray for her sanity every day.
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Yes. Trump and the military are calling the shots, thankfully. The military tribunals holding Biden, et al., accountable will be happening any day now. Oh yes, and John F. Kennedy, Jr., who still is alive, is Trump's second-in-command.

@mountaineer

Good grief! My stepdaughter has mentioned a little of this, but she knows I'm not a receptive audience, so she glosses over it quickly. And here's a tricky situation... They believe the whole space program is fake, and her husband works at JPL. SMH. **nononono* Poor guy.

Who feeds this stuff to them?


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I'm so sad. I found this and have only watched a little of it. Right now I have to go do something enjoyable so I can have a bit of joy in this awful time we're living in, but I've seen enough to be extremely troubled by my stepdaughter's involvement in this outfit. This was a rock I didn't really want to turn over, but I had to once she started rattling off all this conspiracy stuff.

One thing I have noticed about my stepdaughter is that she doesn't have an iota of joyfulness. There's an oppressive heaviness to all our conversations, and she was never like that before. Her BFF is into QAnon as well, so they feed off each other to the exclusion of all the "unbelievers," for lack of a better word. It all has a Jim Jones feel to it. It's hard to accept that someone you love can fall into a deception so deep.  8888crybaby


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I think it's a cult. Someone is getting rich off these gullible people.
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Man some of your relatives are Cuckoo for coco puffs!   Social media really has lead many people down the path to mental illness.  They may have been pre-nut, but the internet made them full-nut.
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Yes. Trump and the military are calling the shots, thankfully. The military tribunals holding Biden, et al., accountable will be happening any day now. Oh yes, and John F. Kennedy, Jr., who still is alive, is Trump's second-in-command.

It should go without saying that I pray for her sanity every day.

Wow.... **nononono*

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I agree, the internet makes this nuttery spread like wildfire - so much faster than before AlGore invented it. My unscientific observation is that people who feel powerless over certain situations in their lives gravitate to this sort of thing. They believe they know something the rest of us don't, and that makes them special. When it all comes to a cataclysmic end, they are the ones who will come out on top - with a giant "told ya so."
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As some of y'all may remember, I posted a thread 2 or 3 years ago to express my astonishment at some of the things my stepdaughter was espousing. As I was to learn, there are some QAnoners here who defended her stances.

I had a short conversation with her today and got the sense that she isn't all in for Israel. If so, this would break my heart. I'm almost at the point where I just don't want to know since it would likely cause a division between us, so I only marginally went "there" with her.

Can anyone explain the position of QAnon regarding this matter? Thanks.
I'm not totally sure. Quix, our resident QAnon observer, passed away not too long ago.
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I'm not totally sure. Quix, our resident QAnon observer, passed away not too long ago.

Quix died???

I just thought he left because of the pushback here against QAnon.

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I agree, the internet makes this nuttery spread like wildfire - so much faster than before AlGore invented it. My unscientific observation is that people who feel powerless over certain situations in their lives gravitate to this sort of thing. They believe they know something the rest of us don't, and that makes them special. When it all comes to a cataclysmic end, they are the ones who will come out on top - with a giant "told ya so."

Excellent observation.

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The entire British royal family are paedophiles who drink the blood of children, you know.   :whistle:
Well okay that's true , but the whole Angela Lansbury born male? Everyone knows it's Jamie Lee Curtis that was born male....Sheesh! *****rollingeyes*****

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They say every famous woman was born male, and vice versa. So Jaclyn Smith - male. Soccer star Pele - female. If you ever want to feel your head explode, find a Facebook poster named Poncho Pete. He claims to "prove" all these allegations. Everyone is an "invert," maybe even you and I.
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The latest Q theory is that the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, is really Edward Snowden. They look vaguely similar - proof enough!!

Oh yes, and there was a TV commercial from 1981 featuring a woman who vaguely resembles Taylor Swift, who wasn't born until years later. This proves that Taylor Swift is a time traveler. When you know, you know (as they say), or WYKYK!!!
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Quix died???

I just thought he left because of the pushback here against QAnon.
Nah, for the most part, we left him alone and gave him his own corner of the board, "Alternate Realities."

The discussion of his passing begins in the 2022 obituary thread:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,457401.msg2703152.html#msg2703152
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Nah, for the most part, we left him alone and gave him his own corner of the board, "Alternate Realities."

The discussion of his passing begins in the 2022 obituary thread:
https://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,457401.msg2703152.html#msg2703152

I considered Quix a friend. We were buddies at another Forum, not FR.
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I like to think he returned to the mothership.

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With regard to Israel:

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Betty White is Barbara Bush’s sister, and both are the the offspring of Aleister Crowley, the Q people tell us. I had no idea who Crowley was. Wikipedia says:
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Aleister Crowley (/ˈælɪstər ˈkroʊli/;[1] born Edward Alexander Crowley; 12 October 1875 – 1 December 1947) was an English occultist, philosopher, ceremonial magician, poet, painter, novelist and mountaineer. He founded the religion of Thelema, identifying himself as the prophet entrusted with guiding humanity into the Æon of Horus in the early 20th century.
Okay, sounds like a nut. So, of course, his son is Barbara Bush and his daughter is Betty White, and they're all into sucking the blood of children. Makes perfect sense.

https://twitter.com/BabyD1111229/status/1717075605420728830
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The latest Q theory is that the new Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, is really Edward Snowden. They look vaguely similar - proof enough!!

Oh yes, and there was a TV commercial from 1981 featuring a woman who vaguely resembles Taylor Swift, who wasn't born until years later. This proves that Taylor Swift is a time traveler. When you know, you know (as they say), or WYKYK!!!

@mountaineer

Seriously? With QAnon, you just don't now. The nuttier it sounds, the truer it seems to be.

As I replay in my mind my conversation with my stepdaughter, I can remember different things. One thing I've noticed over the years is that they (or she?) have their own definition of faith. I get from her that she has no actual need for scripture. Instead of being made in God's image, she is always conforming Him to her image. She defines the parameters in which He will be operating. She's moved so far away from her faith.

Another thing I remember about our conversation is that she said she hadn't been following the story very much. Yet, when I went on to discuss the situation, she had all kinds of input. Hmmmm.... For someone who had avoided the news, she sure had some strong opinions.  **nononono*

When you said that they feel powerless over certain situations and gravitate to this squirelly stuff (my word, not yours) and that they believe they know something the rest of us don't, I didn't buy it at first. Then I got to thinking about our conversations and her slightly condescending, know-it-all tone and decided that you're probably right.

Last year, in an effort to understand her thinking, I watched this video. She's so far down in that rabbit hole, I fear she won't make it back. Rolling my eyes. And crying.
https://rumble.com/v18c5oz-world-upside-down-this-is-by-far-the-best-biblical-flat-earth-proof-put-tog.html

One more thing. It really aggravates me that they are connected to Trump and/or conservatism. It casts a pall on the rest of us. The media can always be counted on to play that up.



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@mountaineer

Seriously? With QAnon, you just don't now. The nuttier it sounds, the truer it seems to be.

As I replay in my mind my conversation with my stepdaughter, I can remember different things. One thing I've noticed over the years is that they (or she?) have their own definition of faith. I get from her that she has no actual need for scripture. Instead of being made in God's image, she is always conforming Him to her image. She defines the parameters in which He will be operating. She's moved so far away from her faith.

Another thing I remember about our conversation is that she said she hadn't been following the story very much. Yet, when I went on to discuss the situation, she had all kinds of input. Hmmmm.... For someone who had avoided the news, she sure had some strong opinions.  **nononono*

When you said that they feel powerless over certain situations and gravitate to this squirelly stuff (my word, not yours) and that they believe they know something the rest of us don't, I didn't buy it at first. Then I got to thinking about our conversations and her slightly condescending, know-it-all tone and decided that you're probably right.

Last year, in an effort to understand her thinking, I watched this video. She's so far down in that rabbit hole, I fear she won't make it back. Rolling my eyes. And crying.
https://rumble.com/v18c5oz-world-upside-down-this-is-by-far-the-best-biblical-flat-earth-proof-put-tog.html

One more thing. It really aggravates me that they are connected to Trump and/or conservatism. It casts a pall on the rest of us. The media can always be counted on to play that up.

I have a son who happens to be rabidly anti=Israel.

His "Go-To" argument is that prior to 1947 the nation of Israel did NOT exist.
He claims that AI has manipulated the videos of the burned/decapitated toddlers.

He says that what the Israelis are doing now is nothing short of a Palestinian Genocide...and proceeded to go off on me because he knows I'm most sympathetic to Israel's plight.

Told him...he's 53...that Hamas effed around and found out (FAFO)
He said October 7th was a retalitory strike of some kind.

Told him "I love you", and hung up!   :laugh:
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I have a son who happens to be rabidly anti=Israel.

His "Go-To" argument is that prior to 1947 the nation of Israel did NOT exist.
He claims that AI has manipulated the videos of the burned/decapitated toddlers.

He says that what the Israelis are doing now is nothing short of a Palestinian Genocide...and proceeded to go off on me because he knows I'm most sympathetic to Israel's plight.

Told him...he's 53...that Hamas effed around and found out (FAFO)
He said October 7th was a retalitory strike of some kind.

Told him "I love you", and hung up!   :laugh:

@DCPatriot

That's got to be even harder when it comes from your own flesh and blood.

I remember studying prophecy years ago and learning that the world would turn against Israel. I just couldn't believe that could happen on such a large scale, especially here. Especially after the holocaust. That was back when I still believed in the basic decency of mankind.


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Betty White is Barbara Bush’s sister, and both are the the offspring of Aleister Crowley, the Q people tell us. I had no idea who Crowley was. Wikipedia says:Okay, sounds like a nut. So, of course, his son is Barbara Bush and his daughter is Betty White, and they're all into sucking the blood of children. Makes perfect sense.

https://twitter.com/BabyD1111229/status/1717075605420728830

Good grief, @mountaineer. I missed this! I'm starting to get very scared. This thing is like the blob. I don't know if you're old enough to remember that old movie, but the blob rolls around consuming people and grows bigger with each victim. I feel like I'm going to lose her. THIS IS ABSOLUTE INSANITY!

Whoever Q is, he has to be laughing himself silly.


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Whoever Q is, he has to be laughing himself silly.
All the way to the bank, I suspect. There's some significance to the number 107 - don't know why, but I'm sure it could be googled - so one of the idiots who pushes this Q nonsense calls himself Juan O'Savin (so clever) and posts videos for the gullible to lap up.
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I never paid no mind to that Q-anon b.s.

Not back when Mr. Trump was in office.

Not now.

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The only reason I pay any attention to Q-anon is that someone to whom I once was close has become completely ensnared in it. I fear for her mental wellbeing.
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Betty White is Barbara Bush’s sister, and both are the the offspring of Aleister Crowley, the Q people tell us. I had no idea who Crowley was. Wikipedia says:Okay, sounds like a nut. So, of course, his son is Barbara Bush and his daughter is Betty White, and they're all into sucking the blood of children. Makes perfect sense.

https://twitter.com/BabyD1111229/status/1717075605420728830
Ugh... the adrenachrome harvesting myth again.

Hunter S. Thompson invented the idea of "adrenochrome" while high on real drugs for Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. It's not a literal chemical. I have to wonder what he thought of so many people taking his writing literally. Maybe he's hoping the phantom bats will swoop down and attack them  :tongue2:
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome

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Adrenochrome is a chemical compound produced by the oxidation of adrenaline (epinephrine). It was the subject of limited research from the 1950s through to the 1970s as a potential cause of schizophrenia. While it has no current medical application, the related derivative compound, carbazochrome, is a hemostatic medication.

Despite this compound's name, it is unrelated to the element chromium; instead, the ‑chrome suffix indicates a relationship to color, as pure adrenochrome is deep violet.[1]
Chemistry

The oxidation reaction that converts adrenaline into adrenochrome occurs both in vivo and in vitro. Silver oxide (Ag2O) was among the first reagents employed for this,[2] but a variety of other oxidising agents have been used successfully.[3] In solution, adrenochrome is pink and further oxidation of the compound causes it to polymerize into brown or black melanin compounds.[4]

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The only reason I pay any attention to Q-anon is that someone to whom I once was close has become completely ensnared in it. I fear for her mental wellbeing.

@mountaineer

Exactly. When someone you love gets pulled into that vortex, it causes you to sit up and take notice. Additionally, since I've been researching it, I've learned how much of an effect this movement has on us normal folks who are governed by conservative principles. So many of their beliefs appear to put us in the same camp with them, and this is just more fodder for leftists -- or even reasonable people who haven't yet formed an opinion -- to paint us all as wackos. It doesn't redound to our benefit.

I remember 2 more things my stepdaughter has touched on in our conversations. She believes that weather is being created by ? A weather machine? I'm not sure exactly, but she told me that a hurricane that was headed for SoCal wasn't a hurricane. When I asked her what it was, she said it was a man-made storm. Also, she's a structural engineer now. Not really but she insists she knows what it takes to knock 2 110-story buildings down, and 2 planes have nothing to do with it. They're just cover for the real culprit who knocked down those buildings -- GWB.


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I remember 2 more things my stepdaughter has touched on in our conversations. She believes that weather is being created by ? A weather machine?
Yes, that's part of it, too. They attribute the man-made weather to HAARP*. This was one of my cousin's posts:
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Chemtrails.  Being used to accelerate climate change and to depopulate.  BaAl-Barium and Aluminum.
HAARP exists!!  Is there natural weather?  Has our weather been controlled our whole life?  What’s the truth?
This is hard Science fact.
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
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Yes, that's part of it, too. They attribute the man-made weather to HAARP*. This was one of my cousin's posts:* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-frequency_Active_Auroral_Research_Program
Good grief!

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The Q'ers are really into dead people - who really aren't dead - who will come back, either to reveal the truth about the evils of Hollywood or simply to rule. These include, but are not limited to, Jim Morrison (one and the same as Rush Limbaugh, did you know that?), Prince, Michael Jackson, James Dean, Elvis Presley (who is pastoring a church in Arkansas as "Bob Joyce" and is related to Donald Trump), John F. Kennedy Jr. and his dad. Oh yes, and Frank Sinatra. Welcome to Cuckootown.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adrenochrome

In omni legenda veritas est

If that is: 'in every legend, truth is' or better: 'In every legend is a bit of truth', you'd be right.

'Adrenochrome' is a modernistic, scientific definition of something ancient that lies far deeper than modern things.

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This is a Q-nutter's view of Israel:

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This is a Q-nutter's view of Israel:



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I can't tell you how troubled I am. I've not been diligent about researching QAnon because I thought she was backing away from it. I think she just avoided the subject since she could see that she didn't have a receptive audience in me. And then came the attacks on Israel. My heart sank when she started with the both-sides-ism talking points.  8888crybaby


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She'll probably block me soon because I mocked her, but if you want to know what the Qnutters are thinking, check out the Twitter account @Nancy023922191 .


https://twitter.com/Nancy023922191/status/1719665743959335179

https://twitter.com/Nancy023922191/status/1719255316679025026
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   One of my Best Friends is QAnon I only see him once a year because of Geography.  Last time in April, he thanked me for getting him into Pollytics 30 years ago.  He is still tolerable (once a year), but I'll be glad when he outgrows this $hit, like he did his apathy in what seems like ages ago.
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@mountaineer

Each piece of information leaves me more and more speechless.  **nononono*

The deception seems to be extremely deep. I don't know how to penetrate it. I have done a perfunctory search for a forum of former QAnoners who have come out from under that spell. So far I haven't found anything.


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Today's revelation was that Larry Bird, 6'9" Boston Celtics star, was born female.

The more you know ... ✴🤤
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Thanks for that video, @AllThatJazzZ - I saw a lot of my cousin in that, and I have to wonder how her daughter feels.
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I am sick to my stomach. This is Q.
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Has anyone watch Europa? What do you think of the below statement?

9:46 PM · Nov 1, 2023

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I’ve seen it and it tells a very different story. Hitler didn’t kill any Jews, he did want to deport them out of Germany🇩🇪 though and for good reason. The documentary even showed some Jews saying that Hitler was trying to help the Jews.
10:04 PM · Nov 1, 2023

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He was a hero
9:29 AM · Nov 2, 2023
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Today's revelation was that Larry Bird, 6'9" Boston Celtics star, was born female.

The more you know ... ✴🤤

He definitely knew how too make make Pu$$ies whine.

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please take Pus*y off the list of banned words.
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You don’t become cooler with age but you do care progressively less about being cool, which is the only true way to actually be cool.

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I am sick to my stomach. This is Q.

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Gut punch! I hhhh-h-h-haaate that they're considered so aligned with the right.


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